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Well, only way I'll ever pay to see this movie,is if Bioware as absolute power over the script.That way it will at least have some creditable.


Um...it is their IP.  By law they will have absolute power over how it is used.

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Valmy wrote...

Sixth Goul wrote...

Well, only way I'll ever pay to see this movie,is if Bioware as absolute power over the script.That way it will at least have some creditable.


Um...it is their IP.  By law they will have absolute power over how it is used.


This is why i think it has a good chance of sucess.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

No, it´s a movie based on a game. It´s going to be awful. 100%


It is a Bioware game.  They know how to tell a story.

Unless you consider every game to be equal....in which case why aren't you a fan of every game ever made by every game company if you believe there is nothing to differentiate quality?

It's an opinion based on experience. Regardless of the quality of the game a movie is inspired by, the results have always been 100% crap. I don't expect this one to be different. If it is, all the better, but I don't hold my breath.

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Valmy wrote...

Sixth Goul wrote...

Well, only way I'll ever pay to see this movie,is if Bioware as absolute power over the script.That way it will at least have some creditable.


Um...it is their IP.  By law they will have absolute power over how it is used.

That depends on the contract. As a rule, movie makers reserve all the rights to do with the material what they want, unless there's an extremely powerful franchise behind it. Games and game series as a rule aren't that.

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Quiet here this evening. Here's an old screenshot - I'm trying to make new ones but almost everything has been photographed...



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Ieldra2 wrote...

Quiet here this evening.


Yeah i think that everyone is on the 'ME movie threads' with all of the hype and worry surrounding it.

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better quiet then closed....:(..oh don't mind me...

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Hey Miranda Fans...just found that on Deviantart...enjoy :)

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Captain Iglo wrote...

Hey Miranda Fans...just found that on Deviantart...enjoy :)

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:wub: Hubba-hubba. :lol:

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andysilv87 wrote...

Captain Iglo wrote...

Hey Miranda Fans...just found that on Deviantart...enjoy :)

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:wub: Hubba-hubba. :lol:


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I dont know how i feel about this, amazing work though.

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Ieldra2 wrote...
That depends on the contract. As a rule, movie makers reserve all the rights to do with the material what they want, unless there's an extremely powerful franchise behind it. Games and game series as a rule aren't that.


If Bioware signs away creative control of their franchise, which they created for the explicit reason for having creative control, I will do a massive facepalm.  They will have just wasted years of effort.

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Valmy wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...
That depends on the contract. As a rule, movie makers reserve all the rights to do with the material what they want, unless there's an extremely powerful franchise behind it. Games and game series as a rule aren't that.


If Bioware signs away creative control of their franchise, which they created for the explicit reason for having creative control, I will do a massive facepalm.  They will have just wasted years of effort.


Well its up to EA now...since they own all rights... after they bought Bioware. I'm not really sure if EA cares enough to make sure that something good comes out of this. Im just glad its not Fox who bought it.

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Ieldra2 wrote...
It's an opinion based on experience. Regardless of the quality of the game a movie is inspired by, the results have always been 100% crap. I don't expect this one to be different. If it is, all the better, but I don't hold my breath.


Based on the experience of other companies and other titles and having a sample size so small as to be meaningless.  The mentality of Bioware has always been 'games as a story telling medium'.  They should translate over to film better than the others.

Hey you could be right and I will eat crow but I see nothing leading me to believe they are going to hand over the IP they worked so hard to create and let it be destroyed.  This is an opportunity to increase their business by drawing tons of fans to their IP and they are going to intentionally botch it by:

A. Ceding creative control over to someone else.

B.  Making it crap and unrepresentative of their products.

Ergo Bioware is going to intentionally destroy their own franchise when they are perfectly capable of making something good?  They are going to intentionally cede creative control when they worked so hard to get creative control in the first place?

I just fail to see the logic or reason behind these assertions beyond some hazy association with other games made movies...

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They probably have extremely minimal control over the film. And even if they did, these are very different mediums. I'm thinking about how I'd adapt the first game, and I'm pretty sure I'd be tarred and feathered by the fanbase. And I actually care about the source.

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Captain Iglo wrote...
Well its up to EA now...since they own all rights... after they bought Bioware. I'm not really sure if EA cares enough to make sure that something good comes out of this. Im just glad its not Fox who bought it.


Hmmmmm...ok good point....I suppose EA might muck it up somehow...

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Aren´t Casey Hudson or the BW founders the Executive Producer? That means it´s up to them to decide how the movie is going to be in the end and not some schmocks who don´t know anything about ME.

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jtav wrote...

They probably have extremely minimal control over the film. And even if they did, these are very different mediums. I'm thinking about how I'd adapt the first game, and I'm pretty sure I'd be tarred and feathered by the fanbase. And I actually care about the source.


Is that the plan?  To adapt the first game?

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Why is anybody having high hopes for the movie? Lets be realistic video game movies suck! This one is going to be no exception I guarantee it.

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Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...

They probably have extremely minimal control over the film. And even if they did, these are very different mediums. I'm thinking about how I'd adapt the first game, and I'm pretty sure I'd be tarred and feathered by the fanbase. And I actually care about the source.


Is that the plan?  To adapt the first game?


well the usual...make one...see if it makes money...then make the next 2 faster, maybe shoot them together.

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Markinator_123 wrote...

Why is anybody having high hopes for the movie? Lets be realistic video game movies suck! This one is going to be no exception I guarantee it.


Confidence in Bioware.  I look forward to you eating crow when they do a great job once again.

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Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...

They probably have extremely minimal control over the film. And even if they did, these are very different mediums. I'm thinking about how I'd adapt the first game, and I'm pretty sure I'd be tarred and feathered by the fanbase. And I actually care about the source.


Is that the plan?  To adapt the first game?


well the usual...make one...see if it makes money...then make the next 2 faster, maybe shoot them together.


No no wait there is no way they could do a decent job on a story that epic in just 90 minutes or whatever.  Is that really a plan?  Ok maybe you guys are right I cannot see exactly how that would work.  They need to make a story in the ME universe that works for a 90 minute film not a 20-40 hour game.

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Markinator_123 wrote...

Why is anybody having high hopes for the movie? Lets be realistic video game movies suck! This one is going to be no exception I guarantee it.


I watched Prince of Persia yesterday...and I gotta admit that it was really enjoyable...no masterpiece...but incredibly entertaining! ... Disney was with a big Budget behind this...so here am I hoping Warner pulls a big Budget too...cause that is what all game movies were missing for now!

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Valmy wrote...

Captain Iglo wrote...

Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...

They probably have extremely minimal control over the film. And even if they did, these are very different mediums. I'm thinking about how I'd adapt the first game, and I'm pretty sure I'd be tarred and feathered by the fanbase. And I actually care about the source.


Is that the plan?  To adapt the first game?


well the usual...make one...see if it makes money...then make the next 2 faster, maybe shoot them together.


No no wait there is no way they could do a decent job on a story that epic in just 90 minutes or whatever.  Is that really a plan?  Ok maybe you guys are right I cannot see exactly how that would work.  They need to make a story in the ME universe that works for a 90 minute film not a 20-40 hour game.


Come on the first Mass effect would have worked on its own ;) In a way it is a usual end: saving the Galaxy with a space Battle...could have ended there. So same with movie leads to 1 movie = 1 Game

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Valmy wrote...

Markinator_123 wrote...

Why is anybody having high hopes for the movie? Lets be realistic video game movies suck! This one is going to be no exception I guarantee it.


Confidence in Bioware.  I look forward to you eating crow when they do a great job once again.


Your optimism in Bioware is commendable but it doesn't change the fact that this movie is going to suck. Mass Effect has too much story for it to be placed into a 2 hour movie. Plus, more than likely this is going to be some sort of summer block buster action flick. Is that really what you want especially considering how well written the Mass Effect games are? Video game movies have an awful track record and some of you are just being blindly optimistic.

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Can you imagine what they'd do to Miranda? *shudders*