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[Ieldra]

Valmy wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I beleive Miri might have used her body in the past to get stuff for Cerberus, remember, she has embraced her self as a tool for Cerberus before she meets Shepard. Ugh wheres that dialog for that conversation, it's the second one when she starts talking to her father, I forget the whole qoute

She says her looks give her an edge and they do but I do not think they do in the manner you are suggesting.  I think they make her seem almost super human, make her intimidating and gives people an inferiority complex.  I think that WOULD work on Jack actually and sorta does given how Jack talks about her.

But using them as a form of seduction?  You never get the impression she has, which is surprising frankly.  I mean it would be logical that she has but you have to make a reach, an assumption.  It is never even hinted at.

She's an experienced operative who very probably has a lot of experience in the spy trade. While I don't think she has actually used sex to get what she wants, except in rare circumstances, I'm very much convinced she has used her allure and her beauty to make people incautious around her, to make them reveal what they shouldn't, and to mess up their minds in general if that suited her purpose.

[Auzden]

lawl!!! end of ME3 jack and miranda go super cool and use awsom powers and work together and become bfffs

[SnakeHelah]

OH NOES It's lockdown time cause tali thread just got locked!! 

[Ieldra]

Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...
It's not canon that she uses sex/sex appeal to get her way. However, it's entirely consistent with her character to do so if she thinks it will be effective. Bioware called her a femme fatale. I just like making her one in truth.

I am not even sure if it is in character.  She is blunt, direct, to the point and uses her skills and knowledge to solve problems.  Miranda is almost the opposite of the coy flirty and subtle femme fatale.  Her character is more to capture the subject, design a truth serum, and then get all the information she wants that way then spend weeks cultivating a trust.

A femme fatale is not coy and flirty. She plays coy and flirty to get what she wants. I can see Miranda easily doing that. Im also think she is subtle more often than not, and that she doesn't appear so in the game often is a result of the fact that subtlety takes more words and is less easily comprehended by some players. Who in all the ME games shows any subtlety?

[Auzden]

i think miranda charactar is great along with a few other charactars bioware did a great job. i cant wait to see her return in ME3

[Nightwriter]

ToshiStation38 wrote...

Nightwriter wrote...

Lol. I meant, do you think it likely that the something was sex and that they didn't have it, or that the something was a serious relationship and they did have sex?

Haha, sorry. I think it's quite possible that they did have sex, I'm just guessing they never really had a deep romantic connection. Like, they weren't really right for each other.

I could see that being the case. I could see both things being the case, to be honest. Damn Jacob and his ambiguity.

Ieldra2 wrote...

I think both characters represent attitudes to Cerberus often at odds in
this forum. We often debate the relative merits and flaws of Cerberus,
it's agenda and methods here. I've not seen it here so much, but in
other threads these debates have occasionally been rather unpleasant.
Maybe there is some correlation between Jack fans and the "I hate
Cerberus" faction on one side, and Miranda fans and the "Maybe they're
onto something" faction on the other.

Oh, I'm a Miranda fan and I am certainly not a supporter of Cerberus. I have strong objections to them.

My liking Miranda doesn't sway me in this regard; rather, it makes me think she's a bit misguided.

But I can see what you're saying, and I'm sure it's true of some people. I think I'd be much more okay with Jack fans hating Cerberus because of their Jack fandom than Jack fans hating Miranda for it. They can be venomous.

[danteshepard]

SnakeHelah wrote...

OH NOES It's lockdown time cause tali thread just got locked!! 

Yeah I know. I'm waiting for it to respawn so I can return.
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

[Auzden]

danteshepard wrote...

SnakeHelah wrote...

OH NOES It's lockdown time cause tali thread just got locked!! 

Yeah I know. I'm waiting for it to respawn so I can return.
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

Miranda fans and romancers are call themselves what ever they like there is no official name at all. we like miranda because we understand the relationship is indeed not just a sex affair between her and shepard. shes charming, smart, and is action packed.  the perfect human. a very well done charactar and a good choice as a romantic partner

[Lividity Jones]

danteshepard wrote...

SnakeHelah wrote...

OH NOES It's lockdown time cause tali thread just got locked!! 

Yeah I know. I'm waiting for it to respawn so I can return.
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

It's not coming back, Dante.

Priestly shut us down for good.

[Ieldra]

danteshepard wrote...
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

We're "Mirimaniacs". And most of us like Miranda because she is competent, morally ambiguous, interesting in many aspects and, last but not least, human and beautiful. Because she's powerful enough to be a companion instead of a mere follower to a larger-than-life hero like Shepard. Read the "Miranda Manifesto" in the OP for more details.

Uh, and Stanley Woo Chris Priestley has forbidden a re-post of the Tali thread for the time being.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 26 mai 2010 - 08:35 .

[gkillerrin]

Lividity Jones wrote...

danteshepard wrote...

SnakeHelah wrote...

OH NOES It's lockdown time cause tali thread just got locked!! 

Yeah I know. I'm waiting for it to respawn so I can return.
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

It's not coming back, Dante.

Priestly shut us down for good.

yep permanently.. Anyways hows agoin Mirimancers, Remember me

[Nightwriter]

I'm a Miranda fan and I found the 180 from your first meeting to the Normandy odd.

But to be fair, Jacob has the same change, only the opposite. I like him on Lazarus Station and Freedom's Progress, he feels like the only one you can trust, but when I get him back to the Normandy he is suddenly abrasive and standoffish.

So I can't say this is something unique to Miranda. I toss it up to inconsistent writing in general.

[danteshepard]

Ieldra2 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

We're "Mirimaniacs". And most of us like Miranda because she is competent, morally ambiguous, interesting in many aspects and, last but not least, human and beautiful. Because she's powerful enough to be a companion instead of a mere follower to a larger-than-life hero like Shepard. Read the "Miranda Manifesto" in the OP for more details.

Uh, and Stanley Woo Chris Priestley has forbidden a re-post of the Tali thread for the time being.

Naturally I get this info AFTER I repost the OP.

[VampireCommando]

Ieldra2 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

We're "Mirimaniacs". And most of us like Miranda because she is competent, morally ambiguous, interesting in many aspects and, last but not least, human and beautiful. Because she's powerful enough to be a companion instead of a mere follower to a larger-than-life hero like Shepard. Read the "Miranda Manifesto" in the OP for more details.

Uh, and Stanley Woo Chris Priestley has forbidden a re-post of the Tali thread for the time being.

 
Very well said Ieldra, these are the exact reason why we like Miri, i dont really need to say anything else because Ieldra hit it dead on. 

If Chris and Stan shut down the Tali thread, indefinatly, does that mean were next on the chopping block?
what does this mean now for the Talimancers?
Where will they go?
DUN . . . DUN . . . DUN

[danteshepard]

VampireCommando wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

We're "Mirimaniacs". And most of us like Miranda because she is competent, morally ambiguous, interesting in many aspects and, last but not least, human and beautiful. Because she's powerful enough to be a companion instead of a mere follower to a larger-than-life hero like Shepard. Read the "Miranda Manifesto" in the OP for more details.

Uh, and Stanley Woo Chris Priestley has forbidden a re-post of the Tali thread for the time being.

 
Very well said Ieldra, these are the exact reason why we like Miri, i dont really need to say anything else because Ieldra hit it dead on. 

If Chris and Stan shut down the Tali thread, indefinatly, does that mean were next on the chopping block?
what does this mean now for the Talimancers?
Where will they go?
DUN . . . DUN . . . DUN

We will rebuild. Maybe not here on this board but we will rebuild. The Talimancer Army will NOT be kept down.

[jtav]

I'm curious: am I the only one who likes Miranda but is mostly indifferent towards her romance? Miranda is my favorite Bioware NPC ever, but her actual romance is well behind several others. I'd put it down to being female, but Viconia and Bastila's are two of my favorites.

[gkillerrin]

VampireCommando wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

We're "Mirimaniacs". And most of us like Miranda because she is competent, morally ambiguous, interesting in many aspects and, last but not least, human and beautiful. Because she's powerful enough to be a companion instead of a mere follower to a larger-than-life hero like Shepard. Read the "Miranda Manifesto" in the OP for more details.

Uh, and Stanley Woo Chris Priestley has forbidden a re-post of the Tali thread for the time being.

 
Very well said Ieldra, these are the exact reason why we like Miri, i dont really need to say anything else because Ieldra hit it dead on. 

If Chris and Stan shut down the Tali thread, indefinatly, does that mean were next on the chopping block?
what does this mean now for the Talimancers?
Where will they go?
DUN . . . DUN . . . DUN

yeah, chris is starting to do a sweep of fan pages... if you look at the main thead lists... something is missing, its the thread with the list of Fan pages... Plus half are missing...


right now we are heading over to
http://talizorah.org/forum/index.php
we also Have our Steam Page http://steamcommunit.../groups/TZvNME3
and our fan page http://social.biowar...09/#post_399609
If you guys ever get closed down you can come over to our forum, and I can see If I can get you guys your own entire section ^_^

Modifié par gkillerrin, 26 mai 2010 - 08:43 .

[Ieldra]

Leaving for tonight with a Miranda picture:



@gkillerin and danteshepard and others:
Please do not derail this thread.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 26 mai 2010 - 08:43 .

[Whole Particle]

Maybe they could just make a sub-forum for all the fan threads, etc.

That way it doesn't interfere with the main forum discussion, and people can still post in and discuss their favorite characters in their respective threads.

[gkillerrin]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Leaving for tonight with a Miranda picture:



@gkillerin and danteshepard and others:
Please do not derail this thread.

actually I post here quite often in the later hours
I was just posting stuff, and telling you guys what Prisley is planning to do

[Nightwriter]

jtav wrote...

I'm curious: am I the only one who likes Miranda but is mostly indifferent towards her romance? Miranda is my favorite Bioware NPC ever, but her actual romance is well behind several others. I'd put it down to being female, but Viconia and Bastila's are two of my favorites.

I'm female and I like the romance.

I like the idea of romance with that character in general - since Shepard is the only conduit with which we can experience that romance I like the idea of a Shepard and Miranda romance. No, it isn't easy for me to see other Miranda pairings, but if it's written well I can find it enjoyable.

I think your issue is that you're very Miranda-focused but you're very easily bored with Shepard for some reason. Me, I like individual lines of the dialogue in this romance, I like the way Shepard challenges her about being afraid of actually caring for someone, teases her leading up to the kiss scene, stuff like that - no, I liked a lot of the way it was written.

[VampireCommando]

gkillerrin wrote...

VampireCommando wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

danteshepard wrote...
Still this gives me an opportunity to ask you...What is it you call yourselves "Mirimancers?" What is it about miranda that makes you like her so much? I'm not trying to troll but I find her sudden change from your initial meeting to a 180 when you are aboard normandy a little suspicious.

We're "Mirimaniacs". And most of us like Miranda because she is competent, morally ambiguous, interesting in many aspects and, last but not least, human and beautiful. Because she's powerful enough to be a companion instead of a mere follower to a larger-than-life hero like Shepard. Read the "Miranda Manifesto" in the OP for more details.

Uh, and Stanley Woo Chris Priestley has forbidden a re-post of the Tali thread for the time being.

 
Very well said Ieldra, these are the exact reason why we like Miri, i dont really need to say anything else because Ieldra hit it dead on. 

If Chris and Stan shut down the Tali thread, indefinatly, does that mean were next on the chopping block?
what does this mean now for the Talimancers?
Where will they go?
DUN . . . DUN . . . DUN

yeah, chris is starting to do a sweep of fan pages... if you look at the main thead lists... something is missing, its the thread with the list of Fan pages... Plus half are missing...


right now we are heading over to
http://talizorah.org/forum/index.php
we also Have our Steam Page http://steamcommunit.../groups/TZvNME3
and our fan page http://social.biowar...09/#post_399609
If you guys ever get closed down you can come over to our forum, and I can see If I can get you guys your own entire section ^_^

Thanks, on behalf of the Miri thread i thank you for your generoisty, and i read the post by Chris, Talimancers you are welcome here provided you tali about Miri and nothing else, we dont want our thread derailing thanks, we quite fammed for keeping it on topic and we would like to keep it that way.

BTW sorry about your thread getting locked indefaintly, that blows

Now to my ffellow Mirimaniacs how do you think Miri will take her new leash on work, if she resgined at the end of your game?

I for one seeing her getting bord sometimes as she always seemed to be working, however on the bright side i feel this may free up more of her time to be with Shep and the rest of the crew and beome social with some of them to a degree.

[gkillerrin]

Whole Particle wrote...

Maybe they could just make a sub-forum for all the fan threads, etc.
That way it doesn't interfere with the main forum discussion, and people can still post in and discuss their favorite characters in their respective threads.

see thats what I thought of before... but none of the mods want to do it , I would enjoy a 1 place to go that takes up 1 forum page, and none of the threads have to be locked... it makes most sence


so I'm not off topic
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[Auzden]

i bet miranda would look good in a blue and black suit

[VampireCommando]

Auzden wrote...

i bet miranda would look good in a blue and black suit

I for one would like to see her in more 'real' clothes, not an outfit that looks like it has been sprayed on, i would be intreasted to see what she looks like in them.