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[kraidy1117]

jlb524 wrote...

I thought that was Jack, kraidy?

NVM, you are talking about Jack!

What implants does Miranda have then?

Jack has L5 implants (which means she had to be put in prison a couple of weeks before Shepard came back to life because there is no way she was given L5 implants when she was a kid, massive plot hole)

Miri either has L2, L3 or L4.

[jtav]

My money's on L2 or L4. I have to admit there's something poetic about Miranda having the side effects and just refusing to complain because her biotics are strongest that way and it's not like she hasn't been effective despite being an L2 for the last twenty years.



Hmm.

[fongiel24]

Well, we don't know if Jack or someone else may have upgraded her implants since her escape from the Teltan facility. Cerberus may also have been experimenting with L5-equivalent implants while they still had access to Jack (either in their own facilities or a prison like Purgatory). Maybe L5 implants only became widely available (to the extent that bioamps can be "widely available") after extensive experimentation on people like Jack.

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

My money's on L2 or L4. I have to admit there's something poetic about Miranda having the side effects and just refusing to complain because her biotics are strongest that way and it's not like she hasn't been effective despite being an L2 for the last twenty years.

Hmm.

Kaidan comes to mind, even tho he admits it hurts him, he still rather be a L2. I always wondered if they both would have alot in common because both are very strong biotics and at tech (both are sentials(sp)

[kraidy1117]

fongiel24 wrote...

Well, we don't know if Jack or someone else may have upgraded her implants since her escape from the Teltan facility. Cerberus may also have been experimenting with L5-equivalent implants while they still had access to Jack (either in their own facilities or a prison like Purgatory). Maybe L5 implants only became widely available (to the extent that bioamps can be "widely available") after extensive experimentation on people like Jack.

I think maybe thats why she got aressted. Maybe she stole L5 implants, got one in her and tried to sell them and this got her into trouble, it's weak but I could see that.

[fongiel24]

jtav wrote...

My money's on L2 or L4. I have to admit there's something poetic about Miranda having the side effects and just refusing to complain because her biotics are strongest that way and it's not like she hasn't been effective despite being an L2 for the last twenty years.

Hmm.

Kaidan mentions that L2s spike higher than L3s but the codex says L4s have greater control. Based on her age, Miranda was originally implanted with L2s. However, although implant upgrades are dangerous, I can see Miranda willingly undergoing surgery to have her implants upgraded since she sees herself more as a tool than a person. I also suspect that someone like Miranda would value control over power, meaning the higher spikes of L2s would be less useful to her than the greater finesse of L3-5 implants.

[jtav]

fongiel, you have a point. L4 it is then. I'll just confine Miranda's suffering to her backstory.

[jlb524]

I would imagine Miranda got the 'best' implants (the L2's) since her father would have been the one who forced this upon her.

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

fongiel, you have a point. L4 it is then. I'll just confine Miranda's suffering to her backstory.

Kinda makes sence, Cerberus would have clearnece to get some of the L4 implants because of there spys in the Ascension project.

[kraidy1117]

jlb524 wrote...

I would imagine Miranda got the 'best' implants (the L2's) since her father would have been the one who forced this upon her.

He did't force her to do anything, he did this before she could even talk, f*cken idiot <_<

(not  Jib, I relised i wrote that wrong, meant Mr.Lawson )

Modifié par kraidy1117, 29 mai 2010 - 11:08 .

[Collider]

I commented on some of threads in the character discussion group. We're also talking about Miranda there.



As for implants, I can see it both ways. Either L2 or L4, both of them would fit for the "biotic superwoman" thing her father was trying for.

[jtav]

The L4 would have to have been her choice, since it was developed long after she left her father. So, the only question would be whether she retrofitted.

[Collider]

That's probably true (about her having L4), based upon what fongiel said.

Modifié par Collider, 29 mai 2010 - 11:22 .

[jtav]

Okay, I'm just a little weirded out at my ability to find similarities between Miranda and Tali, Liara, and Jack. I'm not sure if there are actual similarities or if I just look at everything through the prism of Miranda.

[TheSixthghoul]

Relax jtav its all in your head.

Modifié par Sixth Goul, 30 mai 2010 - 12:11 .

[Collider]

jtav wrote...

Okay, I'm just a little weirded out at my ability to find similarities between Miranda and Tali, Liara, and Jack. I'm not sure if there are actual similarities or if I just look at everything through the prism of Miranda.

That could be it. But there are similiarities. Of the three though, I find Miranda most like Tali, primarily because of their fathers and how they tried to create the perfect daughters, and how that affect Tali and Miranda's lives. Jack is more than Miranda than Liara, because she too was programmed to be the "best." However, the way Jack responded to this was a lot different than for Miranda and Tali. Liara relates to Miranda somewhat in her information broker job, because of the cold calculations, but is the least similar IMO. However, if I thought about it more, I could probably draw a couple more parallels.

[jtav]

With Miranda and Liara, it's more their intelligence, cynicism, and self-loathing. They don't like themselves very much. As a fic writer, I can use that. Though I do feel guilty about making Tali the object of Shepard's Madonna/**** complex and killing her off in chapter two. I'll make it up to her later, poor girl. But I have less and less patience as the days go by for the animosity between fans of all these ladies. Stupid ship wars.

[Pacifien]

I'm not sure if it's actually ever mentioned anywhere, but is Miranda Earth-born, space-born, or colony-born? Because I'm curious to know what people think each squadmate's reaction to visiting Earth would be like and where the squadmate might like to go. Do you think Miranda would be drawn to cosmopolitan places? Her reaction to Illium led me to think so.

[Collider]

To be honest, I never saw Liara as self hating or cynical. In ME1 she was quite optimistic regarding people like Benezia and Saren, not to mention how her philosophy toward interspecies Asari relationships.



Her character was weathered in ME2, to be sure, but I still don't see self hate or cynicism. The former I *may* be able to see because she gave Shepard to Cerberus, but cynicism I don't really see.

[Radahldo]

Her profile on the site mentions shes born on Earth, but I don't think she ever mentions it personally

[Arijharn]

fongiel24 wrote...
As for beam weapons/plasma throwers vs. rail guns utilizing mass effect fields... they're equally fantastical. I would actually guess that with our current level of technology we are closer to energy-based laser weapons than man-portable rail guns.

If anything, we're about equal distance from each other. It's possible to create electromagnetic rail weaponry now (which I know you specifically mentioned man portable, but for those who aren't yet up to speed: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_gun) and we definitely have laser based weaponry now (albeit the large, boeing 747 mounted variety - it was a test platform for the US's SDI program)

DEW/Plasma throwers are still within science fiction, but are scientifically plausible. What we lack at the moment is material efficiency, and that's the main limiting factor.

War breeds innovation.

[kraidy1117]

CamoBadger wrote...

Greetings Miranda thread. I require some assistance.

I am currently working on a story, running through a possible story line for ME3. This will be similar to those old 'choose your own adventure' books, where at certain points the reader will be required to make a decision, which will bend the story in a different direction, making the story more personalized to each reader.

For this story I am trying to keep each character as true to their actual character as possible. Unfortunately I am not an expert on every character, and actually I know very little of the behavior/attitudes of many.
The help I require, is that I would appreciate if one, or a few, of you would help me to make sure that I keep Miranda true to her character in this story. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Miri is the needs justify the ends type character, she does not let her emoitions get in the way of her decisions, she is also a strong woman who does npot like to talk about her and to some can come off as a bit*h.

[kraidy1117]

CamoBadger wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
Miri is the needs justify the ends type character, she does not let her emoitions get in the way of her decisions, she is also a strong woman who does npot like to talk about her and to some can come off as a bit*h.

Thank you Kraidy.
Can anyone tell me how the romance arc has played out with Miri? It would be very helpful.

Pretty much, Miri does not care much for oyu, but as the game goes on, she starts to warm up to you, and dev feelings for you. HJowever unlike alot of the other LI she does not start flirting with you until you make the first move. Before the romance is locked, she tells you that we must think of the mission (fitting into her character) and trys to tell Shepard that even if they care for each oither they can't. You can tell her your right or pretty much say you don't care. Then you can tell her I promise not to die, or tell her no promisses this shows that Miri does have strong feelings for you.Then theres the famous engine room scene <_<