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[Ieldra]

Sixth Goul wrote...
I think we need the option to win Miranda over to are side in me3. Instead, of just getting it, regardless of what we do. I'd love the idea of Miranda agreeing with galactic genocide of all none human life.

Too extreme for her. She can be ruthless, but for that you'd have to convince her that this is the only way to save humanity. And smart as she is, she won't believe you. Not unless you find that the Council has worked against humanity behind its back all the time. And even then she'd confine her agreement to the Council species.

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
The still think the big driving force for Miri to work with Cerberus is Oriana, but that's just me.

She makes it pretty clear she believes in Cerberus' agenda as she sees it. She may have started to work with them because of Oriana, but now it's clearly more than that.

Thats what I think, I don't think Miri was really that happy tpo work for Cerberus from the get-go, but as years went on she started to enjoy it but I still think without Oriana, I don't think she would have ever joined Cerberus at all.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 01 juin 2010 - 08:23 .

[Ieldra]

I still think you put too much importance on the personal angle, kraidy. If Miranda wouldn't have been convinced of what Cerberus did (at least the part TIM told her), she wouldn't have started to work with them, and if she hadn't been convinced from the start, TIM wouldn't have given her the chance to become of his top operatives. You just want Miranda to be more Paragon than she really is.

[Prudii Aden]

Just a random thought - what do people think would happen if while out together on the Citadel, Ashley (and her significant other, if you want) happened to enter the same bar/venue as Shepard and Miranda?

[Errol Dnamyx]

I don´t know, but it sure won´t be pretty.

[Jebel Krong]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Andaius20 wrote...


Do you do it?

Is that the scene at the start of the loyalty mission? I always do that, for three reasons: (1) A surprise attack is the obvious tactic here, (2) I love the expression on that salarian's face, (3) That scene is the very definition of badass. I don't think there is a better Renegade interrupt scene in the whole game.

yes it is. probably the best single-scene in the game and the definition of renegade bad-ass how it's supposed to be done: *neck-snap* and one very surprised salarian! and being on miranda's loyalty mission is the icing on the cake, just wish it wasn't in a giant warehouse...

[jtav]

Nothing? Brief awkwardness if she happens to be your ex, but nothing beyond that.



And I think Miranda always believed in Cerberus ideals, though she may not have chosen to work with them if it wasn't for Oriana. It's possible she would have worked for a strong and independent humanity in other ways.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...
Nothing? Brief awkwardness if she happens to be your ex, but nothing beyond that.

Exactly this. I wonder why people are always expecting a fight or something. That's not at all realistic, more suitable for a comedy.

And I think Miranda always believed in Cerberus ideals, though she may not have chosen to work with them if it wasn't for Oriana. It's possible she would have worked for a strong and independent humanity in other ways.

QFT again.

[jtav]

I think Bioware might go the catfight route in ME3, which is one reason that I'm determined that all my Sheps who romance her are single. Fighting over a man is beneath her.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

I think Bioware might go the catfight route in ME3, which is one reason that I'm determined that all my Sheps who romance her are single. Fighting over a man is beneath her.

If that happens, I'll replay my two main maleSheps over all of ME1 and ME2. But I hope I don't have to.

[Shadedclan]

I tried to romanced Tali then go to Miranda just to see what she would say about sharing. What she said was this:

Shepard: Do you have a minute, Miranda?
Miri: I do. I suppose we should talk. But I won't be shared. If it's going to go anywhere, everyone needs to know that you're mine.

First I felt that Miranda was very possessive and doesn't like to share. Any thoughts?

Modifié par Shadedclan, 01 juin 2010 - 01:48 .

[Ieldra]

Shadedclan wrote...
I tried to romanced Tali then go to Miranda just to see what she would say about sharing. What she said was this:

Shepard: Do you have a minute, Miranda?
Miri: I do. I suppose we should talk. But I won't be shared. If it's going to go anywhere, everyone needs to know that you're mine.

First I felt that Miranda was very possessive and doesn't like to share. Any thoughts?

Don't you consider it rather normal that Miranda doesn't want to share you with another woman?

[Shadedclan]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Shadedclan wrote...
I tried to romanced Tali then go to Miranda just to see what she would say about sharing. What she said was this:

Shepard: Do you have a minute, Miranda?
Miri: I do. I suppose we should talk. But I won't be shared. If it's going to go anywhere, everyone needs to know that you're mine.

First I felt that Miranda was very possessive and doesn't like to share. Any thoughts?

Don't you consider it rather normal that Miranda doesn't want to share you with another woman?

I know but I would have imagined she would say it a bit different.

[jtav]

The possessive streak is entirely IC (and extremely attractive), but I don't like "everyone needs to know..." Makes it sound like she wants Shep as a trophy she can display.

[Ieldra]

Shadedclan wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Shadedclan wrote...
I tried to romanced Tali then go to Miranda just to see what she would say about sharing. What she said was this:

Shepard: Do you have a minute, Miranda?
Miri: I do. I suppose we should talk. But I won't be shared. If it's going to go anywhere, everyone needs to know that you're mine.

First I felt that Miranda was very possessive and doesn't like to share. Any thoughts?

Don't you consider it rather normal that Miranda doesn't want to share you with another woman?

I know but I would have imagined she would say it a bit different.

Hmm. I don't know what you expected, but it does seem very much in character for her. She points to the fact she expects you to be as much hers as she'll be yours. She'll not be your satellite in this relationship. 

@jtav:
Yes, I agree about that "everyone needs to know". That's not so much like her.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 01 juin 2010 - 02:22 .

[Shadedclan]

jtav wrote...

The possessive streak is entirely IC (and extremely attractive), but I don't like "everyone needs to know..." Makes it sound like she wants Shep as a trophy she can display.

Yes, exactly!

[KendallX23]

well Shepard is like a trophy...look at what he does in ME1 and ME2...

[jtav]

I would have changed it to "I need to know that you're mine. And mine alone."



That said, I like her possessiveness. I think she's got some anxiety about losing Shep. She wants someone that's "hers" that she won't have to give up like Oriana, won't betray her like Niket. She's not going to let her walls down without some assurance that it won't blow up in her face.

[Shadedclan]

Either way, I like it.

[TheSixthghoul]

Let me get this straight, Miranda is possessive, Tali is obsessive,and Jack is overaggressive,so what does that make Blue Wall and Ash?

[jtav]

Tali is not obsessive. Honestly, I fantasize about an ending where she, Miranda and Liara say "Screw this emotionally constipated idiot" and run off to fight pirates/slavers/Shadow Broker.

[kraidy1117]

I never knew miri says something like that, I always end up romancing her anyways....

[kraidy1117]

Sixth Goul wrote...

Let me get this straight, Miranda is possessive, Tali is obsessive,and Jack is overaggressive,so what does that make Blue Wall and Ash?

WTF did I just read?

[tommyt_1994]

Just dropping in to thank the few of you who responded to my question earlier. You guys had some interesting thoughts. Thanks

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

I think Bioware might go the catfight route in ME3, which is one reason that I'm determined that all my Sheps who romance her are single. Fighting over a man is beneath her.

Depends on how they do it.  A catfight over a guy depends on the guy being a total object without any opinions or actions of his own.  I have a hard time seeing that happening.

Again alot of your fears just seem odd.  A character demeaning cat fight simply has never happened in Bioware games.  The closest they get is the two LIs will approach the protagonist and maybe a few snarky side comments.  If Ashley is angry she will be angry with Shepard.  Her being angry with Miranda would imply Shepard is too hopeless to make his own choices which would just be bizarre.  Do you really think that is a possibility?

Modifié par Valmy, 01 juin 2010 - 04:45 .