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#43126
Ieldra

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jtav wrote...

From the Official Xbox magazine

A little known thing about Mass Effect
2 is that while everyone knows about the save game connectivity and how
well that works, I think that overshadows the fact that we really
designed Mass Effect 2 to be a good entry point for new players. So
that's why we don't give all these choices about what's happened
before.

Is that something you're planning for Mass Effect 3 as well? You want it to be another smooth entry point?

Absolutely. We like to have this continuity and its payoff, but we also
want each game to allow people to enter into the series at that point.
If you haven't played either game we still want you to be able to play
Mass Effect 3.


I've also seen reference elsewhere to each game being standalone.

Doesn't sound all that bad. Subtract the marketing aspect and it's nothing more than the obvious. Regarding Miranda, it all depends on their canonical version of what did happen with her if you haven't played ME2. Giving that she's almost unkillable in ME2, I think it's a safe bet she'll have a role. How big it will be, that's anyone's guess.

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hey folks, how's the thread coming along? Interesting topics? Art? Screencaps?

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You know what? Hudson, is not a very good hype man, compared to Peter Molyneux at least. With Peter, at least when he has a bad idea, he makes it sound desirable. Common on, how many new people do they thing are going to be attracted now, this late in the series?

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Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

From the Official Xbox magazine

A little known thing about Mass Effect
2 is that while everyone knows about the save game connectivity and how
well that works, I think that overshadows the fact that we really
designed Mass Effect 2 to be a good entry point for new players. So
that's why we don't give all these choices about what's happened
before.

Is that something you're planning for Mass Effect 3 as well? You want it to be another smooth entry point?

Absolutely. We like to have this continuity and its payoff, but we also
want each game to allow people to enter into the series at that point.
If you haven't played either game we still want you to be able to play
Mass Effect 3.


I've also seen reference elsewhere to each game being standalone.

Doesn't sound all that bad. Subtract the marketing aspect and it's nothing more than the obvious. Regarding Miranda, it all depends on their canonical version of what did happen with her if you haven't played ME2. Giving that she's almost unkillable in ME2, I think it's a safe bet she'll have a role. How big it will be, that's anyone's guess.


I also hope that in terms of carring on the romance you get more than a few extra dialouge lines, i want propper continuation, like the rest of you no doubt.

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VampireCommando wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

From the Official Xbox magazine

A little known thing about Mass Effect
2 is that while everyone knows about the save game connectivity and how
well that works, I think that overshadows the fact that we really
designed Mass Effect 2 to be a good entry point for new players. So
that's why we don't give all these choices about what's happened
before.

Is that something you're planning for Mass Effect 3 as well? You want it to be another smooth entry point?

Absolutely. We like to have this continuity and its payoff, but we also
want each game to allow people to enter into the series at that point.
If you haven't played either game we still want you to be able to play
Mass Effect 3.


I've also seen reference elsewhere to each game being standalone.

Doesn't sound all that bad. Subtract the marketing aspect and it's nothing more than the obvious. Regarding Miranda, it all depends on their canonical version of what did happen with her if you haven't played ME2. Giving that she's almost unkillable in ME2, I think it's a safe bet she'll have a role. How big it will be, that's anyone's guess.


I also hope that in terms of carring on the romance you get more than a few extra dialouge lines, i want propper continuation, like the rest of you no doubt.

yes, but i'm not sure how they'll reconcile the two... new people can't "continue" a relationship they never had. how  will they "re-set" shep again?

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I don't really like that, it seems like it short changing the ones that have been there since ME 1. Because you know, all that time they spend making your choices "matter" in ME 2 from ME 1 was so amazing. (yay emails or 1-3 lines of Dialog!)

Also what are people expencting from a part 3 of a continuing story? New people that jump into Me 3 should just get a "canon" Shep like you get with a ME 2 new game. They wouldn't know anythign about the other games to care anyway. ^_^

Modifié par Andaius20, 02 juin 2010 - 09:06 .


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im interested too see miranda in ME3 :)

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Hello my fun-loving MiriMainiacs! I am BACK FORM THE DEAD. We had internet problems for so LONG I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DIE. But now I am back. What's the recent news on Miri in ME3 now?

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oh im just saying im very interested about her charactar in ME3 she is gonna change because of a few events in ME2 so im anxious

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Andaius20 wrote...

I don't really like that, it seems like it short changing the ones that have been there since ME 1. Because you know, all that time they spend making your choices "matter" in ME 2 from ME 1 was so amazing. (yay emails or 1-3 lines of Dialog!)

Also what are people expencting from a part 3 of a continuing story? New people that jump into Me 3 should just get a "canon" Shep like you get with a ME 2 new game. They wouldn't know anythign about the other games to care anyway. ^_^


I don't like it either.  BioWare is sacrificing the potential of their series to be an amazing, groundbreaking series and instead making it...  well... just "really really good", by splitting things up into individual episodes.  I trust in BioWare to make at least a very good game, but there's a part of me that's very concerned about how they'll handle things.  I hope that they don't bring in new LIs and just make it so that you can romance existing characters.

But part of the problem is that game reviewers actually put down a game that's a trilogy!  Despite how shallow many of the choices in ME felt, IGN still listed "doesn't feel complete if you haven't played ME1" as a flaw. 

I think that BioWare should realize that no matter what, they won't be able to have a game series that's both a trilogy and a standalone game series and do both equally well.  I'd like to see them make a choice.  Do a series or do episodes (I'd like to see "make a series" be that choice, btw.) 

I swear to god if I get an email from Miranda...




 

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I thing Miranda will be *in* the game but may have a fairly small role. Which isn't the worst thing that can happen, but isn't ideal either. I think we're a long way away from having a gaming public that will accept a LOTR/SW style trilogy. ME is closer to Indiana Jones, for better or worse.

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i support mirandas eyes face outfite hair guns boots and her.. well. nevermind ;)

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I support Miranda because... in the words of Al Pacino from Heat: "She got a GREEAATTT ASS!"

Modifié par MrDavid, 03 juin 2010 - 02:30 .


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I support Miranda because she has a mighty fine ass!

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Shadedclan wrote...

I support Miranda because she has a mighty fine ass!

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if miranda is not a major role in me3 i will cry. miranda garrus and tali should all be major roles the are the most importants characters as far as story.

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Pinkflamingo22 wrote...
if miranda is not a major role in me3 i will cry. miranda garrus and tali should all be major roles the are the most importants characters as far as story.

Tali and Miranda, yes. But Garrus? I don't doubt he'll be back if he survives, but storywise he's completely expendable, nothing of what he's involved in in ME1 or ME2 touches the main plot, except that he was involved with investigating Saren in ME1. And that's become irrelevant.

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The only characters from ME2 that should be important in ME3 is Miri, Tali, Legion, Grunt and Mordin. The others, not so much.

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Pinkflamingo22 wrote...

if miranda is not a major role in me3 i will cry. miranda garrus and tali should all be major roles the are the most importants characters as far as story.


Wait what. I love Garrus but he is not important to any major side story or the plot in anyway.

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MrNose wrote...
I don't like it either.  BioWare is sacrificing the potential of their series to be an amazing, groundbreaking series and instead making it...  well... just "really really good", by splitting things up into individual episodes.  I trust in BioWare to make at least a very good game, but there's a part of me that's very concerned about how they'll handle things.  I hope that they don't bring in new LIs and just make it so that you can romance existing characters.

Hard to say where they'll draw the line. When you consider how they made ME2 start if you hadn't played ME1 - a number of very unpopular decisions (no romance, Wrex dead, Udina as Councilor) - I think they really wanted people to play ME1 before ME2. But yes, new LIs would feel very wrong.

But part of the problem is that game reviewers actually put down a game that's a trilogy!  Despite how shallow many of the choices in ME felt, IGN still listed "doesn't feel complete if you haven't played ME1" as a flaw.

Morons. But that really shouldn't matter much considering that ME2 is regarded as one of the best games of all time (or did I get that wrong?) and actually managed to make people buy a three-year-old prequel.  

I think that BioWare should realize that no matter what, they won't be able to have a game series that's both a trilogy and a standalone game series and do both equally well.  I'd like to see them make a choice.  Do a series or do episodes (I'd like to see "make a series" be that choice, btw.)

 
QFT!

I swear to god if I get an email from Miranda...

....I'll send them a broken ME3 DVD with "Mass Effect is a trilogy: claim dismissed" written over it.

#43146
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Ieldra if they even pull email **** or give miri a liara or Ash cameo they will get more then my broken game back. We don't need anymore LI or new characters, we already have alot. Anymore and the older characters will suffer.

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pyro_technician wrote...
Hello my fun-loving MiriMainiacs! I am BACK FORM THE DEAD. We had internet problems for so LONG I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DIE. But now I am back. What's the recent news on Miri in ME3 now?

No news at all. Just speculation, as you see. If we're very lucky, we may get something from the E3 presentation I heard is coming.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

pyro_technician wrote...
Hello my fun-loving MiriMainiacs! I am BACK FORM THE DEAD. We had internet problems for so LONG I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA DIE. But now I am back. What's the recent news on Miri in ME3 now?

No news at all. Just speculation, as you see. If we're very lucky, we may get something from the E3 presentation I heard is coming.


Nah, Casey said ME3 news will be coming in the next few months. I expect some ME2 news, an announcment on that upcoming thing for DAO and most likely something for the star wars MMO. I expect a ME3 teaser around this christmas or winter (like ME2) then do the big reveal at E3 2011.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 03 juin 2010 - 06:32 .


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If Miri doesn't have a big role in ME3, I'm gonna run and gun all the way to Edmonton lol.:bandit::lol:

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Da Shadow Master wrote...

If Miri doesn't have a big role in ME3, I'm gonna run and gun all the way to Edmonton lol.:bandit::lol:


As long as she is a squadmate and her romance is continued and gets good closure then I don't care. I don't want a cameo like Liara or Ash or a stupid email.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 03 juin 2010 - 06:39 .