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[redBadger14]

God this thread is on steroids lol.

Very good ideas shinobi, should be on the OP



Oh. 2 days and 10 minutes till Chuck versus the Fake Name!

[BlackCat]

shinobi602 wrote...

316 lol

^ yes...and just in 15 days

Modifié par Cat71, 28 février 2010 - 12:55 .

[shinobi602]

Thanks red. If you have any I might not have mentioned that could make sense, drop them on me =D

[ExtremeOne]

shinobi602 wrote...

Hey guys, I made an ME3 wishlist concerning our Miribunny and what we'd like to see happen in ME3. I was thinking maybe Darth can put this up on the front page. What do you think ?

• We want Miranda to return as a squadmember. We don't want her to be just a cameo or have a few lines and then never hear from her again.
• Full-on relationship with her. We would love for the romance between her and Shepard to be expanded significantly.
• Much more dialogue between them, not just in between missions or certain checkpoints in the storyline.
• More than one "love scene" would be exquisite, as it would really portray the relationship as something very real, with a lot of substance, and pretty much show it as ongoing, so to speak, instead of 1, 2, 3 conversations, then ok, romance scene at the end. We don't want it to "culminate" into a final scene, we would love for it to be ongoing, a constant romance that you experience and feel throughout the game.
• Have our Shepard/Miri relationship recognized by others, more than what was in ME2. We'd love if everyone on the Normandy or other NPCs elsewhere had something to say or  what their feeling towards the relationship is. It would be nice for others in the game to know that "Miranda and I are together."
• Have areas, scenes, or lines in the story or on missions where things change according to your romance. Meaning, it would be great if for example, you're on a mission or around the Citadel or planet and are interacting with NPCs, Miranda would have something to say if an NPC badmouths you or insults you. She could react or come to your defense. Or even better if the relationship were to be reflected in scenes in the game, and the scene would act out differently if you bring Miranda along on a dangerous mission for instance.
• Develop her backstory! It's unanimous that we want to know what's going on between her, her sister, and her father. A mission where we have a chance to take down her father would be incredible!

  


I completely agree with all of that 

[shinobi602]

Found some more art!

[Cypher0020]

Woooow that's really pretty

[shinobi602]

Cypher0020 wrote...

Woooow that's really pretty

Mmmm, indeed

[ExtremeOne]

Anyone need a Cerberus Network code and Dragon Age Origins Shale code. These codes are for the 360 versions only.

[Sleepy Buddha]

Shin, I also made a suggestion to Darth to expand the character analysis section whenever some good points were made by someone in the thread. Since we had a great discussion on pages 192, 193 and 194 and a few good points that seemed to me really appropriate for that expansion, I proposed Darth the following:

http://social.biowar...293/214#1465168

This is an example of what I believe we should do, to continually expand on the great quality content of our character analysis on the OP, so that good pieces are not lost in the shuffle.

He said he would follow my suggestion in this case and for possible future cases if others wanted it done, but since the thread is moving really well right now, I think most people missed it. Check it out and say your peace. If you disagree, that's fine. But if you agree, tell Darth and spread the word, Fearless Leader.

[shinobi602]

I'll give it a read. Let's see =)

[ExtremeOne]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

Shin, I also made a suggestion to Darth to expand the character analysis section whenever some good points were made by someone in the thread. Since we had a great discussion on pages 192, 193 and 194 and a few good points that seemed to me really appropriate for that expansion, I proposed Darth the following:

http://social.biowar...293/214#1465168

This is an example of what I believe we should do, to continually expand on the great quality content of our character analysis on the OP, so that good pieces are not lost in the shuffle.

He said he would follow my suggestion in this case and for possible future cases if others wanted it done, but since the thread is moving really well right now, I think most people missed it. Check it out and say your peace. If you disagree, that's fine. But if you agree, tell Darth and spread the word, Fearless Leader.

  


I like your idea and I am all for it 

[Sleepy Buddha]

ExtremeOne wrote...

I like your idea and I am all for it 

You were one of those responsible for me having that idea, ExtremeOne, since you were the one who started that whole mess......*cough* great discussion on those pages.

[shinobi602]

Ok Sleepy, I read it. Personally I agree with you and disagree slightly with Meg in her assertion that " I don't think it's fair to say the others didn't care about him enough to put the effort into reviving him,".

I'm sure the others cared about him enough, but I would put Miranda on a whole other level. No one was as dedicated as she was. She really is the sole reason Shep is alive, she really put her heart and soul into him. Now with that being said, I'm still a little unsure of which part or how you would want that to be in the OP? =)

Modifié par shinobi602, 28 février 2010 - 01:30 .

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

Can someone clarify if there is a way to 'modify' the PC version so anyone can go into the vents?



The reason am asking is because throughout this last week seen numerous people claim they've put Miranda in the vents and yet I've done 4 playthroughs and not once has she been 'selectable' for the vents mission. Just to reconfirm this, I loaded up one of my saves I had done on my 'no one left behind' playthrough with my main ME Paragon MaleShep and got to the point where you choose who goes in the vents and took this pic





No Miranda listed in that selection. So I have to ask people who claim they have sent her in there, how? I can't believe that there is a cut-scene showing her doing the door sequence namely because she is one of the prevalent ones you always see with an assault rifle giving the person covering fire. That and obviously as she isn't a pure tech, she obviously is going to end up dead.

Obviously I can understand why some people would because for some insane reason they hate her and know that other than dying on the final section is the only real way you can kill her and mostly only if she is non-loyal or on her own on door defence possibly. But just strikes me as odd how they can get her in the vents without modding.

[Sleepy Buddha]

shinobi602 wrote...

Ok Sleepy, I read it. Personally I agree with you and disagree slightly with Meg in her assertion that " I don't think it's fair to say the others didn't care about him enough to put the effort into reviving him,".

I'm sure the others cared about him enough, but I would put Miranda on a whole other level. No one was as dedicated as she was. She really is the sole reason Shep is alive, she really put her heart and soul into him. Now with that being said, I'm still a little unsure of which part or how you would want that to be in the OP? =)

As I said, I think those kinds of points should be put as I placed them in my post, since they show things about Miranda's character that are not present in the analysis.

These two points I selected, mine and Keegdarv1 and the subsequent replies by Meg, to me answer constant complaints haters have about Miranda, while also analysing her personality.

Perhaps if a bit of editing was required to post them on the OP, as long as the edits were with the consent of the person who wrote them, it could be done as well.

Modifié par Sleepy Buddha, 28 février 2010 - 01:45 .

[shinobi602]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Ok Sleepy, I read it. Personally I agree with you and disagree slightly with Meg in her assertion that " I don't think it's fair to say the others didn't care about him enough to put the effort into reviving him,".

I'm sure the others cared about him enough, but I would put Miranda on a whole other level. No one was as dedicated as she was. She really is the sole reason Shep is alive, she really put her heart and soul into him. Now with that being said, I'm still a little unsure of which part or how you would want that to be in the OP? =)

As I said, I think those kinds of points should be put as I placed them in my post, since they show things about Miranda's character that are not present in the analysis.

These two points I selected, mine and Keegdarv1 and the subsequent replies by Meg, to me answer constant complaints haters have about Miranda, while also analysing her personality.

Perhaps if a bit of editing was required to post them on the OP, as long as the edits were with the consent of the person who wrote them, it could be done as well.

Hm, I agree. They're excellent discussion material and provide even deeper insight than the one already there on the OP. I'll message Darth.

[Sleepy Buddha]

Note that I'm not suggesting this only for these two points. I think this should be our policy for the future, that whenever some good point that shines a light on Miranda's personality and attitude should be added. As I said, we have to beat every other thread on quality of analysis, especially theonethatmustnotbenamed. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/ninja.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Sleepy Buddha, 28 février 2010 - 01:49 .

[padaE]

Miranda can't be sent to the Vents nor to return with the Normandy's crew. Also, she cannot be killed by the seekers swarm.

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If you see any of those two it's a mod or a bug.

[shinobi602]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

Note that I'm not suggesting this
only for these two points. I think this should be our policy for the
future, that whenever some good point that shines a light on Miranda's
personality and attitude should be
added. As I said, we have to beat every other thread on quality of analysis, especially theonethatmustnotbenamed. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/ninja.png[/smilie][smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

Very true. I agree fully. This is why we should always be keeping an eye out on good material that provides any insight on Miri's character. Once we see it, Darth should be made aware.

Modifié par shinobi602, 28 février 2010 - 01:48 .

[MegWithAMouth]

shinobi602 wrote...

Ok Sleepy, I read it. Personally I agree with you and disagree slightly with Meg in her assertion that " I don't think it's fair to say the others didn't care about him enough to put the effort into reviving him,".

I'm sure the others cared about him enough, but I would put Miranda on a whole other level. No one was as dedicated as she was. She really is the sole reason Shep is alive, she really put her heart and soul into him. Now with that being said, I'm still a little unsure of which part or how you would want that to be in the OP? =)

That was my point though, Shinobi. Miranda didn't care about Shepard at all. He was just another assignment to her. To say that she cared about him more than his friends at that point, isnt accurate. I do, however, believe that once she really delved into Shepard she came to admire him. But she didn't fall in love with him (I believe) until he was actually conscious.

And she's not the "sole reason" he's alive. Without TIM starting the entire project, she wouldn't have accomplished what she did. Without TIM contracting Liara to acquire his body, Miranda wouldn't have even had a project.

I'm playing a bit of devil's advocate here, but you really can't say Shepard lives solely because of Miranda is all I'm trying to say.

In great part to her? Definitely. I've already stated that no one else could have accomplished what she did, but she didn't do any of it alone.

[Captain_Goodguy]

Where is everyone? Am I all alone? We were on page 2 for almost 20 minutes!

[ComTrav]

Not totally alone.







We must sustain the barrier of Miranda love.

[Captain_Goodguy]

ComTrav wrote...

Not totally alone.



We must sustain the barrier of Miranda love.

To 250!

[Jediknight120]

That pic reminds me that I want to pick Miranda as the shield person in the Collector Base to see Shep rescue her, but I can't bring myself to get someone killed.

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

One thing people forget or don't pay attention to, is the fact she most likely has spent 19 years working for them, rising through the ranks fairly quickly for her age and basically being conditioned into thinking they are doing the best for humanity due to the division she is in and information she is given regarding tasks other divisions do.



Now as I've mentioned in another topic, regarding the scene at the base, that isn't a straight 180 that a lot of people believe. As I pointed out (even more so in my last post in that topic), you could go back probably as far as Horizon for her opinion no doubt changing. Then there is the collector ship trap. I think that situation is what brought on the "What so you can replace me next?" line that she throws at TIM during the base sequence in that obviously she would have thought TIM would have told her they were walking into a trap. Specially one that basically required EDI to get them out of there as Miranda's view on AIs does show a bit after the abduction sequence.



The information is all there if people are willing to pay attention to the story. So fed up of people expecting bioware to spoon feed them the story.