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I really can't see any of that happening personally, agree that Miranda 'may' initially start to betray you (if that was their intentions) but she would in the end see sense (especially if a LI) and ask for your help.

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DarthReavus wrote...

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I just had a thought, I wonder if there will be a 'none Cerberus' outfit for Miranda in ME3 if go along the lines of her resigning? Same I guess with Jacob


On that note i guess they'll have to paint the Normandy

Pull up at the Citadel and get your man Anderson on it B)


Meh I hope we can choose what colours to paint it, that'd be fun B)

edit: As for this whole miri betray thing, they aren't going to do that, it'll just be a case of her stating that we need to shift Oriana again.

The trouble is, are they really going to go all out with the ME2 characters, specifically Miri and Jacob.

They would surely need to account for people choosing to remain buddies with Cerberus. So that would mean for those 2 specifically content would be altered. Most of the others in the squad tend to be anti-Cerberus.

I can't see how remaining loyal to Cerberus is going to allow Ash/Kaidan LIs to truly reunite with them because they seriously hate Cerberus so unless Shep and the others that were in ME can talk some sense into that ain't going to happen.

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Maviarab wrote...

I really can't see any of that happening personally, agree that Miranda 'may' initially start to betray you (if that was their intentions) but she would in the end see sense (especially if a LI) and ask for your help.


Yeah, true. What is one TIM against a man who took down Sovereign and Collectors? Though I fear Sheen, might not be able to pull off enough high notes, when Miranda gets her hands on TIM.:whistle:

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I just had a thought, I wonder if there will be a 'none Cerberus' outfit for Miranda in ME3 if go along the lines of her resigning? Same I guess with Jacob


On that note i guess they'll have to paint the Normandy

Pull up at the Citadel and get your man Anderson on it B)


Meh I hope we can choose what colours to paint it, that'd be fun B)

*Has terrible visions of what the gay love threads would do...rainbow Normandy*

Personally I'd go all black.  Make it visually stealthy as well as technologically :ph34r:

Ninja Normandy ftw!

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I just had a thought, I wonder if there will be a 'none Cerberus' outfit for Miranda in ME3 if go along the lines of her resigning? Same I guess with Jacob


On that note i guess they'll have to paint the Normandy

Pull up at the Citadel and get your man Anderson on it B)


Meh I hope we can choose what colours to paint it, that'd be fun B)


Dark, metallic red with a black trim. With images of Miranda & Yvonne on each side...

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andysilv87 wrote...

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I'm not suggesting it because I hate her. Just the opposite. I want angst, drama, and emotion. I wan to feel like my heart's been stomped on. The first Bioware game I ever played was KOTOR. I remembered being distraught when Bastila turned to the Dark Side and overjoyed when I was able to redeem her through love. I want to recapture that rollercoaster of emotions. Miranda's the only character I'm invested in enough to pull it off. And Oriana makes it easy.


As much as I don't want Miranda to turn on Shepard, I do agree with what you're saying. If you could do the old 'redeem through love' thing with Miranda it would have a fantastic emotional pay-off.


Well...the key difference is that Bastilla's turning to the dark side was forshadowed the entire game.  You could see how she would get angry and resentful and impatient and all the things that make Jedi go bad.  They haven't done the groundwork to make that work for Miranda.  But hey they have another game to do it.

Though the primary problem with this is that Miranda will not be in everybody's game so cannot be counted on to fill such a huge plot point.  If a key moment like that is going to happen to a character Kaidan/Ashley or Liara will have to do it.

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Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I just had a thought, I wonder if there will be a 'none Cerberus' outfit for Miranda in ME3 if go along the lines of her resigning? Same I guess with Jacob


On that note i guess they'll have to paint the Normandy

Pull up at the Citadel and get your man Anderson on it B)


Meh I hope we can choose what colours to paint it, that'd be fun B)


I wish we had been given the option to choose her name
(not that there's anything wrong with calling her Normandy)

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I think the probabiliy that Miranda is setup as a traitor by Bioware (for ME3) is non-zero, if only for the reason that it would be an interesting plot twist. But I don't really think they'll do it.


I usually agree with you, Ieldra, but you're gonna have to explain this one to me. How would it be an interesting plot twist?

I can't think of a single logical reason for it to happen. And without a very good reason, it would be a twist for the sake of having a twist and drama, which would ruin the story (think Lost and Modern Warfare 2).

The Bastila case had a good reason. Bastila's character was flawed in a way that made her very vulnerable to falling to the dark side.

I don't see Miranda having any of those flaws (character weaknesses), and I can't think of a logical reason she woul still be secretly working for TIM. Destroying something TIM obviously desired above anything else just to gain Shep's trust? I don't buy it.

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Good point there Valmy.

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andysilv87 wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

I just had a thought, I wonder if there will be a 'none Cerberus' outfit for Miranda in ME3 if go along the lines of her resigning? Same I guess with Jacob


On that note i guess they'll have to paint the Normandy

Pull up at the Citadel and get your man Anderson on it B)


Meh I hope we can choose what colours to paint it, that'd be fun B)


Dark, metallic red with a black trim. With images of Miranda & Yvonne on each side...


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Valmy wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

jtav wrote...

I'm not suggesting it because I hate her. Just the opposite. I want angst, drama, and emotion. I wan to feel like my heart's been stomped on. The first Bioware game I ever played was KOTOR. I remembered being distraught when Bastila turned to the Dark Side and overjoyed when I was able to redeem her through love. I want to recapture that rollercoaster of emotions. Miranda's the only character I'm invested in enough to pull it off. And Oriana makes it easy.


As much as I don't want Miranda to turn on Shepard, I do agree with what you're saying. If you could do the old 'redeem through love' thing with Miranda it would have a fantastic emotional pay-off.


Well...the key difference is that Bastilla's turning to the dark side was forshadowed the entire game.  You could see how she would get angry and resentful and impatient and all the things that make Jedi go bad.  They haven't done the groundwork to make that work for Miranda.  But hey they have another game to do it.

Though the primary problem with this is that Miranda will not be in everybody's game so cannot be counted on to fill such a huge plot point.  If a key moment like that is going to happen to a character Kaidan/Ashley or Liara will have to do it.


I haven't actually played KOTOR so I was talking in more of a general sense. Just getting Miranda to stick with you through love would be a pretty cool moment.

Of course, I'm more than happy for her to stay loyal to me too.

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Have I mentioned what a ridiculously good mood I'm in today?

I really have to get rid of this feeling, it just isn't...right! :lol:

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Guardian295 wrote...

I wish we had been given the option to choose her name
(not that there's anything wrong with calling her Normandy)


Mirth Mobile ftw!

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andysilv87 wrote...
I haven't actually played KOTOR so I was talking in more of a general sense. Just getting Miranda to stick with you through love would be a pretty cool moment.


I agree.  That scene is why KOTOR was so much better than all but maybe the first two Star Wars films.

I just find it unlikely.  I think Miranda will be a squad member in ME3 but will fill a secondary role now.

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DarthReavus wrote...

Have I mentioned what a ridiculously good mood I'm in today?

I really have to get rid of this feeling, it just isn't...right! :lol:


you've fallen to the lightside

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Guardian295 wrote...
you've fallen to the lightside


Well it is brighter, happier, more seductive.

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Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
you've fallen to the lightside


Well it is brighter, happier, more seductive.


GTFOI

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Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
you've fallen to the lightside


Well it is brighter, happier, more seductive.


GTFO

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Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
you've fallen to the lightside


Well it is brighter, happier, more seductive.


Come to the Darkside
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kraidy1117 wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
you've fallen to the lightside


Well it is brighter, happier, more seductive.


GTFO


Join the Lightside.  We have warm fuzzies Image IPB

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Valmy wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
you've fallen to the lightside


Well it is brighter, happier, more seductive.


GTFO


Join the Lightside.  We have warm fuzzies Image IPB


Which side has Miri? I join that side :wub:<3:wizard:

Modifié par kraidy1117, 02 mars 2010 - 03:02 .


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Guardian295 wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
you've fallen to the lightside


Well it is brighter, happier, more seductive.


Come to the Darkside
we have cookiesImage IPB


Come to the Lightside, we have Yvonne.

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andysilv87 wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
you've fallen to the lightside


Well it is brighter, happier, more seductive.


Come to the Darkside
we have cookiesImage IPB


Come to the Lightside, we have Yvonne.


Sorry Yvonne is more yummy then cookies :wub:

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andysilv87 wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
you've fallen to the lightside


Well it is brighter, happier, more seductive.


Come to the Darkside
we have cookiesImage IPB


Come to the Lightside, we have Yvonne.


SOLDImage IPB

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kraidy1117 wrote...
Sorry Yvonne is more yummy then cookies :wub:


x2.