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Andysilv

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No Miranda pictures on this page, for shame!
EDIT: Lol, or on this page.

I love her eyes in this first pic, beautiful.

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Modifié par andysilv87, 03 mars 2010 - 08:51 .


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AccursedOdin

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*Glances at Andy's post, and points to it*



Look everyone! A distraction!

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 ..... That last pic, where is it from? The romance scene or was there a chance to hug Miri that I missed? :crying:

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Melrache wrote...

 ..... That last pic, where is it from? The romance scene or was there a chance to hug Miri that I missed? :crying:


You missed the hug? That's the best scene.

You have to pick the "No Promises" option when you get to that point during the dialogue. It's a lovely scene. Image IPB

Modifié par andysilv87, 03 mars 2010 - 08:54 .


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Melrache wrote...

 ..... That last pic, where is it from? The romance scene or was there a chance to hug Miri that I missed? :crying:


I assume its the result of choosing the "No promises" option when she tells you to promise her not to die.

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Aww, man. Where's my Mass Effect 2 when I need it the most. I must replay it again! I forgot could you change the class of ME2 save import or only ME1?

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Melrache wrote...

Aww, man. Where's my Mass Effect 2 when I need it the most. I must replay it again! I forgot could you change the class of ME2 save import or only ME1?


You can only change the class of a ME1 import.

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AccursedOdin wrote...

If I recall correctly, Miri hasn't been here in a while, so I thought this was appropriate.
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Is it just me or does Miranda look exceptionally beautiful in this pic? I've never posted a :wub: anywhere IIRC, but I think it's time. So: :wub:

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AccursedOdin wrote...

Melrache wrote...

 ..... That last pic, where is it from? The romance scene or was there a chance to hug Miri that I missed? :crying:


I assume its the result of choosing the "No promises" option when she tells you to promise her not to die.


Alright, well thats what I must try out then! I chose the I promise or whatever, because I thought it would affect my Shep's rate of survival :?

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Strikor2115 wrote...
Miranda Lawson is GOD.[/i][i]

LOL. I hope not. God has some rather unpleasant character traits. I don't trust him (sorry, couldn't resist).

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Melrache wrote...

AccursedOdin wrote...

Melrache wrote...

 ..... That last pic, where is it from? The romance scene or was there a chance to hug Miri that I missed? :crying:


I assume its the result of choosing the "No promises" option when she tells you to promise her not to die.


Alright, well thats what I must try out then! I chose the I promise or whatever, because I thought it would affect my Shep's rate of survival :?


Trust me, it's more than worth it. As well as the hug, you get more of an indication that Miranda really loves you. *sniff* It's beautiful. Image IPB

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I wonder what else I've missed. ^_^ I usually take the most paragonish route, so there must be something. 

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Personally I always Renegade kiss her... because she's totally 'kissable' if you know what I mean.

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Melrache wrote...

I wonder what else I've missed. ^_^ I usually take the most paragonish route, so there must be something. 


You can kiss Miri if you choose the "Jealous?" option. I've forgotten which conversation it's from though.

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Arijharn wrote...

Personally I always Renegade kiss her... because she's totally 'kissable' if you know what I mean.


Oh yeah. I love it when she gets all flustered too, it's adorable. Image IPB

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Yeah I never done that either, but the renegade kiss seemed somewhat... Wrong, sure it was pretty nice scene, but I don't want my Shep to look like a player.

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@Arijharn, gutty:

I'd like to say I really enjoy your discussion. I don't answer because I wouldn't have to say anything that hasn't been said before, but I always read it. I particularly agree with the wish for a more seamless world. I posted something about that in the ME3 wishlist thread about a week or two back. I disagree somewhat about the meaning of Paragon/Renegade decisions. There are different ways to interpret that, so I'd like different decisions to use slightly different interpretations - for instance, I do not think that "ruthless" necessarily also means "callous".

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The only annoying scene I've seen is where Miranda makes the off the cuff remark about being in Love to which playa shep responds: "Love? Who said anything about Love... I just want to get you in bed." It's his bizarro smile thing that makes me cringe... not so much the lines.

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Arijharn wrote...

The only annoying scene I've seen is where Miranda makes the off the cuff remark about being in Love to which playa shep responds: "Love? Who said anything about Love... I just want to get you in bed." It's his bizarro smile thing that makes me cringe... not so much the lines.


Yeah that is pretty bad as well I was amazed about it being Paragon. I usually take the middle route. ''I don't care''

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You know, I'm baffled at the existence of the datapad in the first place really, it's only in the Mission Complete screens I think that harbinger was mentioned in 'gameplay' was actually the Reaper and not the Collector General. Honestly though, I doubt the Citadel Council would be all to willing to accept it at 'face value.' I guess it really depends on how much the Council actually believe in the Reaper threat compared to how much they've dismissed it as a means of political control.

Personally I favour the second option if only because it portrays the Council as being less of a jackass as we have so far been led to believe. That said, I also believe that story wise if the council did believe that Shephard has gone off the deep end, then we'd be seeing a richer story experience because of it.

Showing the council as not completely braindead is easily the better option from a story perspective. You can't run a galaxy for so long and not have some sort of intelligence. Someone posted a 'Diary of the Turian Councilor' that described this alternate position and it was a fascinating bit of fanfic. I've lost the link to it though.

As to having Shepard go off the deepend... I don't think I can properly speculate about how this would work without having more knowledge of the ME3 storyline. If we assume the DA:O style army recruitment then Shepard would need to essentially earn loyalties all over again and it could be integral. Other story ideas would require different levels of involvement.

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I mainly would like to see ME3 having Shephard emerge as a true hero simply because it reads like a classic 'cavalry rides in at the last moment' sort of situation. I also see the differences between full paragon and full renegade based largely upon these principles:
1) Full Renegade is about humanity emerging as the true dominant force through absolute massive firepower superiority. Relatively low (human) casualties suffered in defence against Reaper invasion.
2) Full Paragon is about overcoming interspecies issues and suspicion. Myriad of races working together to save off Reaper invasion. Relatively high casualties suffered in defence of this situation.

The more crossover between Renegade/Paragon choices (especially the big ones such as all-human alliance or saving the Collector base) has tangible results, as does whether the Krogan can recover enough to perform in defence of humanity (lets face it, Earth is going to play a large role in ME3, perhaps even as the final setting) if Wrex is alive due to his strong ties of friendship to Shephard. Alternatively, if Wreav took over, Shephard would have an uphill battle to persuade him, maybe even with the cure for the genophage offered as a bribe. Compound this whether you saved the Rachni Queen or allowed the Geth to reharmonize with each other.

Of course, I want the Quarian and Geth situation to be solved only via perhaps underhanded tactics because I think this is the only you could get them to play nice. Far too much bad blood has been shed... so to speak.

I agree with all these points. Given that Bioware aren't going to tinker much with the engine, completely different outcomes based on both ME1 and ME2 decisions should hopefully be implemented. I'd also like to see detrimental results based on the quarian/geth and krogan/genophage decisions. For example: if Shepard bribes the krogan with the genophage cure, after the reaper battle the krogan could start repopulating at an alarming rate. History repeating itself with the Krogan Rebellions. The quarian and geth could also end in war after the reaper invasion or the geth could be enslaved or even the have the geth destroy the migrant fleet in their own pre-emptive strike (this last one is my personal favourite, the quarians got what they deserved during the Morning War ... but I digress).

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I thought the Mission Complete screen was completely jarrign as well. Having said that, unless it was tangible (as in, building the relationship or something) I think if Miranda just talked to me after every mission then I'd probably be tempted to just skip the way through it.

A combination of both emails and debriefs would be ideal, depending on the mission of course.

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I'll take the easy way out and say that it'd be up to the level and gameplay designers to work out the most atmospheric areas to put Thresher Maw emergence holes etc. What I'd like to stress for the level though is that the idea is that no area is perfectly safe. Yes it's 'survival horror' but it's not built around the 'survival horror' genre (i.e., no new gameplay mechanics included just for the sake of a single (or couple of) missions). Remember how the prologue mission of ME2 thrust you thick into the game while still suspending you in a sense of awe? Like that - but with Thresher Maws. I.e., Pregnant Peril around every corner (almost). The eerie sense that you could die any minute (although obviously you know you don't).
I would also like to think that Shephard could find inventive ways to take out Thresher Maws, since he isn't going to necessarily have a X-98e Widow lying around, or a Collector Beam Weapon etc... perhaps the tanks mass accelerator cannon still works? Perhaps that service crane is actually as heavy as it looks? Perhaps I can get the Threshers to attack each other?

The 'inventive ways' does seem like it would require additional work that would only be in select levels. The warhero and ruthless backgrounds only require combat. Optimistically I would hope for the background levels to be included but the pragmatist in me says it won't happen.

I've probably missed some points but walls of text are hard to reply to properly and in full.:innocent:

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andysilv87 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

I wonder what else I've missed. ^_^ I usually take the most paragonish route, so there must be something. 


You can kiss Miri if you choose the "Jealous?" option. I've forgotten which conversation it's from though.


It's from the second post loyalty mission chat, the "What idiotic hormones...." one.
*Looks back at my shenanigans with Kab* ahh, continue tomorro lol? I must retire as I am once again struggling to spell this post correctly. BTW If anyone tries to remove me from this saferoom/ the imidiate vicinity of Miri, I still have my Experimental MIRV, 32 mini nukes, M-920 Cain, several assorments of Shaw/MI6 guy pics and much more to unleash *Insert evil Image IPB *

Night, Night Image IPB

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Night Flashy! I guess I go out for a fancy meal then. Cya later folks!

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Flashy91 wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

I wonder what else I've missed. ^_^ I usually take the most paragonish route, so there must be something. 


You can kiss Miri if you choose the "Jealous?" option. I've forgotten which conversation it's from though.


It's from the second post loyalty mission chat, the "What idiotic hormones...." one.
*Looks back at my shenanigans with Kab* ahh, continue tomorro lol? I must retire as I am once again struggling to spell this post correctly. BTW If anyone tries to remove me from this saferoom/ the imidiate vicinity of Miri, I still have my Experimental MIRV, 32 mini nukes, M-920 Cain, several assorments of Shaw/MI6 guy pics and much more to unleash *Insert evil Image IPB *

Night, Night Image IPB


*draws a warm blanket over the cuddled women*

They look so sweet... Image IPB

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Night Flashy, I should probably turn in as well, later everyone!

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Night, night to all those leaving.... I'm still not opening this door.