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[jtav]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Anyways you also have to put the fact that Miri might die in ME3, if so I hope Shepard can commit suicde. Joshua Shepard can't live without Miri.

Please no. "Theres only one person for me, and I can't live without them" is one of my least favorite tropes.

As for a hypothetical Shepard-Lawson child, I prefer to think he's born about a decade post-game. Shepard has taken a job providing training to potential Spectres after sustaining crippling injuries in ME3. Miranda loves them both very much, but she's an operative for Alliance Inteeligence and can be gone for months at a time. She's involved as she can be, but definitely isn't a constant presence. I can see Shep Jr. rebelling in a drmatic way as a teen.

[Valmy]

Annjul666 wrote...

oh God pics on 398 (?) are just... wow. OMG Yvonne should not exist! she is too perfect! my eyes hurt when i look at her... i should even not dare to! i wonder how her parents look like... i need to meet them xD

Yvonne and her mother:

[Kabraxal]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

Ieldra: guess I can see the idealogical split... but I think they need to have at least three good endings. Baby/Wife, loving couple without kids, and battle couple storming the Traverse until they have to use canes to beat the Krogan's away.

I could go with some variant of all of these -if they're made unconventional enough. I repeat part of my reply on the last page because it was drowned by chat so fast I suspect some might have missed it:

In the end it comes down to this: there is a need for Miranda's future, if she stays together with Shepard, to be unconventional (add: with or without kids). A conventional future would belittle what has gone before and would
contradict the implication that Shepard's and Miranda's future is somehow meaningful for humanity as a whole.

No worries... I don't see Shepard settling either.  The only "conventional" girls I see are Liara and, surprisingly, Jack.  The paragonned Jack just smacks of the traditional girl... she's just been beaten and abused and covered it all up.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

As for a hypothetical Shepard-Lawson child, I prefer to think he's born about a decade post-game. Shepard has taken a job providing training to potential Spectres after sustaining crippling injuries in ME3. Miranda loves them both very much, but she's an operative for Alliance Inteeligence and can be gone for months at a time. She's involved as she can be, but definitely isn't a constant presence. I can see Shep Jr. rebelling in a drmatic way as a teen.

I think both of them would realize that their children would be in incredible danger just because of who they are.  They would probably keep them close as much as they can.  The only safe place for Shep Jr is with his parents.

[kraidy1117]

Valmy wrote...

Annjul666 wrote...

oh God pics on 398 (?) are just... wow. OMG Yvonne should not exist! she is too perfect! my eyes hurt when i look at her... i should even not dare to! i wonder how her parents look like... i need to meet them xD

Yvonne and her mother:

A MILF?

[Andysilv]

Valmy wrote...

Annjul666 wrote...

oh God pics on 398 (?) are just... wow. OMG Yvonne should not exist! she is too perfect! my eyes hurt when i look at her... i should even not dare to! i wonder how her parents look like... i need to meet them xD

Yvonne and her mother:

Thanks. Now I know what to expect when I meet the family.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Anyways you also have to put the fact that Miri might die in ME3, if so I hope Shepard can commit suicde. Joshua Shepard can't live without Miri.

Please no. "Theres only one person for me, and I can't live without them" is one of my least favorite tropes.

QFT! I also do not think Miranda would be such a character. I can't speak for other people's Shepards, but it would not be in character for Miranda.

As for a hypothetical Shepard-Lawson child, I prefer to think he's born about a decade post-game. Shepard has taken a job providing training to potential Spectres after sustaining crippling injuries in ME3. Miranda loves them both very much, but she's an operative for Alliance Inteeligence and can be gone for months at a time. She's involved as she can be, but definitely isn't a constant presence. I can see Shep Jr. rebelling in a drmatic way as a teen.

Very plausible.
(I find myself agreeing with you often - so clearly men and women aren't that foreign to each other:lol:)
.

[DarthReavus]

*slaps Andy back to reality*

[Guardian295]

Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...

As for a hypothetical Shepard-Lawson child, I prefer to think he's born about a decade post-game. Shepard has taken a job providing training to potential Spectres after sustaining crippling injuries in ME3. Miranda loves them both very much, but she's an operative for Alliance Inteeligence and can be gone for months at a time. She's involved as she can be, but definitely isn't a constant presence. I can see Shep Jr. rebelling in a drmatic way as a teen.

I think both of them would realize that their children would be in incredible danger just because of who they are.  They would probably keep them close as much as they can.  The only safe place for Shep Jr is with his parents.

Your assumeing that they both survive ME3 they might take it down the road of noble selfsacrifice like in DA:O

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Anyways you also have to put the fact that Miri might die in ME3, if so I hope Shepard can commit suicde. Joshua Shepard can't live without Miri.

Please no. "Theres only one person for me, and I can't live without them" is one of my least favorite tropes.

QFT! I also do not think Miranda would be such a character. I can't speak for other people's Shepards, but it would not be in character for Miranda.

As for a hypothetical Shepard-Lawson child, I prefer to think he's born about a decade post-game. Shepard has taken a job providing training to potential Spectres after sustaining crippling injuries in ME3. Miranda loves them both very much, but she's an operative for Alliance Inteeligence and can be gone for months at a time. She's involved as she can be, but definitely isn't a constant presence. I can see Shep Jr. rebelling in a drmatic way as a teen.

Very plausible.
(I find myself agreeing with you often - so clearly men and women aren't that foreign to each other:lol:)
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I know if Miri died Joshua Shepard would no longer care.

[Valmy]

Maviarab wrote...

Just a pointer.....people generally crave the things they cannot have (be it for whatver reason)....

Especially when it comes to careers, I bet Miranda (very much like Sarah) would love to settle down....just my take on it.

Yeah that is what I was getting at.  Even in the situation where Miranda and Shep stay in one place and have kids, well it would never be "conventional".

Though really is there actually such a thing as a "conventional" family?  Every family is weird in its own special way no matter how "conventional" it may appear to be from the outside.

Modifié par Valmy, 04 mars 2010 - 02:57 .

[Melra]

Valmy wrote...

jtav wrote...

As for a hypothetical Shepard-Lawson child, I prefer to think he's born about a decade post-game. Shepard has taken a job providing training to potential Spectres after sustaining crippling injuries in ME3. Miranda loves them both very much, but she's an operative for Alliance Inteeligence and can be gone for months at a time. She's involved as she can be, but definitely isn't a constant presence. I can see Shep Jr. rebelling in a drmatic way as a teen.

I think both of them would realize that their children would be in incredible danger just because of who they are.  They would probably keep them close as much as they can.  The only safe place for Shep Jr is with his parents.

Whatever they do with their children, I wouldn't want to be one of them. Honestly think of the pressure one would be facing, if his/her parents were the best humanity has to offer. 

I know what my Shepard would do, but I am not too sure about Miranda. I am skeptical about her being able to join Alliance anytime soon, unless Shepard takes the ''Both or neither'' route with Hackett.

[Valmy]

Guardian295 wrote...
Your assumeing that they both survive ME3 they might take it down the road of noble selfsacrifice like in DA:O

If either one dies in ME3 there will be no children to speak of.  Until the Reapers are defeated both of them are going to be a little busy.

[Sleepy Buddha]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I see I have only missed a few pages here. Sorry for not posting, but I've been writing my promised article about "mind over matter" and Shepard's appearance. Since I thought it would be of more general interest, I posted it as a separated topic. if you're interested, see here.

Ok, Ieldra. Having read your post, I can see why you had a problem with my use of that expression on my post.

The thing is, we have a very different interpretation of what the expression "mind over matter" means. I never thought of it the way you do.

To you, it's achieving the impossible thanks to the mind.

To me, it's the "mind" being more important than "matter" in achieving something.

The analogy I think best illustrates my interpretation is Apple and Steve Jobs.

If you're aware of the history of Apple, you'll know that the company has only been successful (and very successful at that) with Jobs at the helm. It's Jobs' vision and guidance, the "mind", that made them the juggernaut Apple is.

The rest of the company (engineers, programmers, managers, etc,), the "matter", have been for it's 30 years of history kind of irrelevant, since in many cases we see that the same exact teams fared very differently with and without Jobs leading them.

The rest of Apple is replaceable by people of similar skill (the "matter"), while no one can replace Steve Jobs (the "mind") and do what he does. So it's mind over matter in achieving success, meaning the mind is more important than matter in reaching the goal, not that the goal is impossible.

The way I see it, if we think of the Lazarus Project as an analog of Apple, Miranda is it's Steve Jobs.

[kraidy1117]

Maviarab wrote...

I hear that Valmy lol....I dont really think conventional has been in the dictionary since the 80's lol

People have conventional famillies?

[Ieldra]

Maviarab wrote...

I hear that Valmy lol....I dont really think conventional has been in the dictionary since the 80's lol

Not in the dictionary maybe. But in enough stories to make everyone here thoroughly sick. And ME tells a story.

[Melra]

Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
Your assumeing that they both survive ME3 they might take it down the road of noble selfsacrifice like in DA:O

If either one dies in ME3 there will be no children to speak of.  Until the Reapers are defeated both of them are going to be a little busy.

And if one of them -has- to die. I rather have it be my Shepard. I am sucker for cliche heroic deaths/taking bullet for someone else/ Holding a line till death so others can live. 

[Annjul666]

Mavi, stop lying xD my parents are/were hot (especially my father) but i am so mixed that well.. most of the adult people call me exotic. i have not standard European look. i am different, but not every different is pretty, though =.= maybe i would have less complexes if i were more slim, more tall and have less problems with complexion... wtf am i doing... ok, that was just weird. dont tell anyone, key? <hides in embarassment>



so, any new fics turn up when i was gone? and why were you guys talking about Twilight 0.0

[Guardian295]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

I hear that Valmy lol....I dont really think conventional has been in the dictionary since the 80's lol

People have conventional famillies?

A conventional family is an unconventional family

Modifié par Guardian295, 04 mars 2010 - 03:06 .

[Guardian295]

Melrache wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
Your assumeing that they both survive ME3 they might take it down the road of noble selfsacrifice like in DA:O

If either one dies in ME3 there will be no children to speak of.  Until the Reapers are defeated both of them are going to be a little busy.

And if one of them -has- to die. I rather have it be my Shepard. I am sucker for cliche heroic deaths/taking bullet for someone else/ Holding a line till death so others can live. 

A good death

[Valmy]

Melrache wrote...

And if one of them -has- to die. I rather have it be my Shepard. I am sucker for cliche heroic deaths/taking bullet for someone else/ Holding a line till death so others can live. 

Yeah my Shep has a hero complex of enormous proportions.  Frankly he wouldn't have had himself go any other way but making sure almost the entire Normandy crew escaped first like he did at the beginning of ME1.

But he loves lots of people not just Miranda.  If she dies he will carry on.  Just...you know...the Galaxy will be a little lonlier.

[kraidy1117]

I wonder if you decide to do a noble sacrifice and if you are romancing Miri if there will be a dialog tree for that.



(similar to DAO, if a female Warden and Alistair are in love with each other and you both go to tackle the Archdemon, he will ask if he can make the final blow, if you tell him no, he will kiss you and take the final blow him self to save you)



I don't mean Miri should do that, but there should be a dialog tree.