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Guardian295 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
Your assumeing that they both survive ME3 they might take it down the road of noble selfsacrifice like in DA:O


If either one dies in ME3 there will be no children to speak of.  Until the Reapers are defeated both of them are going to be a little busy.


And if one of them -has- to die. I rather have it be my Shepard. I am sucker for cliche heroic deaths/taking bullet for someone else/ Holding a line till death so others can live. ^_^

A good death


Yeah. This scene is good example of the heroic death, if it only had served bit greater purpose, it would've been even greater. 

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Sleepy Buddha wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

I see I have only missed a few pages here. Sorry for not posting, but I've been writing my promised article about "mind over matter" and Shepard's appearance. Since I thought it would be of more general interest, I posted it as a separated topic. if you're interested, see here.


Ok, Ieldra. Having read your post, I can see why you had a problem with my use of that expression on my post.

The thing is, we have a very different interpretation of what the expression "mind over matter" means. I never thought of it the way you do.

To you, it's achieving the impossible thanks to the mind.

To me, it's the "mind" being more important than "matter" in achieving something.

The analogy I think best illustrates my interpretation is Apple and Steve Jobs.

If you're aware of the history of Apple, you'll know that the company has only been successful (and very successful at that) with Jobs at the helm. It's Jobs' vision and guidance, the "mind", that made them the juggernaut Apple is.

The rest of the company (engineers, programmers, managers, etc,), the "matter", have been for it's 30 years of history kind of irrelevant, since in many cases we see that the same exact teams fared very differently with and without Jobs leading them.

The rest of Apple is replaceable by people of similar skill (the "matter"), while no one can replace Steve Jobs (the "mind") and do what he does. So it's mind over matter in achieving success, meaning the mind is more important than matter in reaching the goal, not that the goal is impossible.

The way I see it, if we think of the Lazarus Project as an analog of Apple, Miranda is it's Steve Jobs.


I read it as well.  I have to say that I while I don't agree with the mind over matter as not fitting the genre, I do agree that the scars did not fit ME in any way.  The mind over matter explanation simply did not work as a valid explanation as to why the scars are in there.  For that specific case it was a bad attempt to throw in a cliche of morality plays that never really worked with anywhere in the first place... yes, even in Star Wars.  However, that does not mean that  mind over matter doesnit fit in such a science fiction universe.

But then I don't believe in a physical, causally closed universe.  Physicalism just doesn't work for me.  So science fiction and fantasy are alike in that respect for me. 

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Annjul666 wrote...

maybe i would have less complexes if i were more slim, more tall and have less problems with complexio


Wouldn't we all? Image IPB

and why were you guys talking about Twilight 0.0


You guys were talking about...what now? Image IPB

What is wrong with you?

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Valmy wrote...

Annjul666 wrote...

maybe i would have less complexes if i were more slim, more tall and have less problems with complexio


Wouldn't we all? Image IPB

and why were you guys talking about Twilight 0.0


You guys were talking about...what now? Image IPB

What is wrong with you?


Twilight? WHO THE HELL WAS TALKING ABOUT TWILIGHT!

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kraidy1117 wrote...

(similar to DAO, if a female Warden and Alistair are in love with each other and you both go to tackle the Archdemon, he will ask if he can make the final blow, if you tell him no, he will kiss you and take the final blow him self to save you)


Alistair is just awesome.  I look forward to more of him in Awakenings.

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kabrax...



ism's in general are very bad things I find....

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*gets up from his desk*...



Who the hell talked about twilight on my ship? Lord reavus will have to be informed....and we are not happy. Beware the MAVITRON!

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Valmy wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

(similar to DAO, if a female Warden and Alistair are in love with each other and you both go to tackle the Archdemon, he will ask if he can make the final blow, if you tell him no, he will kiss you and take the final blow him self to save you)


Alistair is just awesome.  I look forward to more of him in Awakenings.


Ya, it hurts when if you both want to live you have to have Morrigan sleep with him if you are a female noble. That hurts so much.

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Mel, that was more or less the ultimate in heroic and noble deaths!



Forgive me everyone, I'm rocking out to Genesis atm.



Oh and Mavi, you're No Son of Mine!

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Maviarab wrote...

*gets up from his desk*...

Who the hell talked about twilight on my ship? Lord reavus will have to be informed....and we are not happy. Beware the MAVITRON!


A twilight fangirl?

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

*gets up from his desk*...

Who the hell talked about twilight on my ship? Lord reavus will have to be informed....and we are not happy. Beware the MAVITRON!


A twilight fangirl?

I'm sorry Mavitron, but I cannot let you do all the terrible things you wish to do upon those who mentioned Twilight.  There would be unpleasant repercussions on me... :?

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Maviarab wrote...

*gets up from his desk*...

Who the hell talked about twilight on my ship? Lord reavus will have to be informed....and we are not happy. Beware the MAVITRON!


I'd tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.

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kabrax...

ism's in general are very bad things I find....


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I heard Edward will be Sarah Walker's next love interest. Discuss.

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Meh...I cant dance either Darth but do i look bothered? Anyway... someone switched off Mr Coffee grrrr....Turn it on again will ya please :P

And Mel....go to the brigg now....or else! Image IPB

Modifié par Maviarab, 04 mars 2010 - 03:16 .


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Kabraxal wrote...

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kabrax...

ism's in general are very bad things I find....


Eroticism? Image IPB

Is a very good thing!

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Maviarab wrote...

Meh...I cant dance either Darth but do i look bothered? Anyone someone switched off mr Coffee grrrr....Turn it on again will ya please :P

Not to mention walking in this thread is like walking in the land of confusion :whistle:

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Annjul666 wrote...

Mavi, stop lying xD my parents are/were hot (especially my father) but i am so mixed that well.. most of the adult people call me exotic. i have not standard European look. i am different, but not every different is pretty, though =.= maybe i would have less complexes if i were more slim, more tall and have less problems with complexion... wtf am i doing... ok, that was just weird. dont tell anyone, key?

I can only say, two of my gfs were about 155cm (that would be 5'2" in Imperial units, I believe). And the exotic is often more attractive than the non-exotic. Actually, 25 years ago a description like this would've made me mightily curious.

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Maviarab wrote...

Meh...I cant dance either Darth but do i look bothered? Anyone someone switched off mr Coffee grrrr....Turn it on again will ya please :P


We had to turn off Mr.Coffee, he was interfering with Mr.Radar.

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DarthReavus wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

Meh...I cant dance either Darth but do i look bothered? Anyone someone switched off mr Coffee grrrr....Turn it on again will ya please :P

Not to mention walking in this thread is like walking in the land of confusion :whistle:


I am confused <_<

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

Meh...I cant dance either Darth but do i look bothered? Anyone someone switched off mr Coffee grrrr....Turn it on again will ya please :P


We had to turn off Mr.Coffee, he was interfering with Mr.Radar.

Andy!  Uncross the wires will you.  You know Mavi always drinks coffee while watching radar!

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thanx ^^

do.not.want.sacrifices.!

now when i was thinking about me3 i realized that.. well i hate to say it, but i am not completely sure if we will be able to continue our relationship. lets face the fact that every game need to be freshy, and bioware will probably stick to the rule 'all new, we are not monotonic'. that means maybe we will can stay fatihful or sth like that but shepard will be given new romances, as they did teh same to me2.. we met old friends but have a chance to change LI etc, you know.

i just never have met game like series, that our characters will be still with one person, and we will be doing things like in 'sims'. i just cant imagine seeing shepard already in relationship, talking to this person like they have known each other for ages. bioware probably thinks the same, that we should have a totally new romance and delevop feelings for others.... know what i mean?



hell i cant put myself together, and i am in hurry... i will continue or add sth later, give me few minutes...

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kraidy1117 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

Meh...I cant dance either Darth but do i look bothered? Anyone someone switched off mr Coffee grrrr....Turn it on again will ya please :P

Not to mention walking in this thread is like walking in the land of confusion :whistle:


I am confused <_<

Titles of songs by Genesis :D

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DarthReavus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

Meh...I cant dance either Darth but do i look bothered? Anyone someone switched off mr Coffee grrrr....Turn it on again will ya please :P

Not to mention walking in this thread is like walking in the land of confusion :whistle:


I am confused <_<

Titles of songs by Genesis :D


Even I could've answered that. Image IPB

#10325
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Genesis ftw!