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Guardian295 wrote...
Science without faith is ignorant, Faith without science is blindKabraxal wrote...
Ieldra2 wrote...
So, what works for you, if you don't mind the question? For me, it's like this: Dualism doesn't work, because as soon as you have one fundamental aspect act on the other, the duality collapses into one. Idealism doesn't work either, because there too many indications that abstract concepts do not have a reality of their own.Kabraxal wrote...
[...]However, that does not mean that mind over matter doesnit fit in such a science fiction universe.
But then I don't believe in a physical, causally closed universe. Physicalism just doesn't work for me. So science fiction and fantasy are alike in that respect for me.
BTW, I vote for "eroticicm" as the "ism" of the day.
I believe in a form of idealism. The "physical" world was created with limitations and boundaries, that operate both seperate and in connection with the "spiritual" world. While the physical world is mostly constructed and run by physical principles and consists of physical actions, the constant substratum necessary for it to continue to function has to be something that is boundless and eternal. This substratum can override the physical at any one point, but mostly it is "dormnat".
The most natural analogy is that of a vidoe game actually. There is a basic programming and structure to the particular world in question, but at any time, the creative force to that universe can alter the code temporarily (cheats) or completely rewrite aspects of the world (mods).
In the "real" world the "programmer" is naturally beyond our current perceptions becuase we are part of the limited, bounded world. The "programmerr" is not. It doesn't operate by our programmed rules, thus it is alien.
Also, abstract ideas by their very nature would not have a reality in comparison to the physical concrete identities. Abstract ideas are non-physical properties, thus the reality is inherently different and will not be discovered by empirical observation. Also... consciousness is quite a wildcard in this discussion. Physical science cannot explain its existence, nor even prove it... yet we all know it does exist simply becuase we are conscious. No physical proof. No concrete foundation... simple abstract certainty.
The problem of science... it cannot prove or disprove the metaphysical. It is limited to a physical plane of existence.
Word of warning though... never invite a philosopher to talk about metaphysics! We all love to get long winded!
and it is to late here for a proper philosopical disscution
Good quote actually. Never denounced science as useful. I just don't hold it as the end all to answering the questions of the universe. It can answer a lot, but at some point it fails. That is when the metaphysical aspects of our beings come in... our souls, if you will.
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