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[Melra]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

Pills not healthy for the body....

We men have it very lucky at times....

penis enlargment pills?

Wait... Those things actually work? 

[Kabraxal]

Maviarab wrote...

Lol I could boast kraidy (but I wont hehe)...

I'm just not a fan of pills in general, think we over rely on them tbh....

*hugs Mavi*

I love you!

[SgtPotato]

Hey, Darth. How's the chapter 4 coming along?

[DarthReavus]

SgtPotato wrote...

Hey, Darth. How's the chapter 4 coming along?

Slowly.  Been a bit tired for writing the last couple of days thanks to work.  I might carry on later this evening, but I should definitely have something for you all tomorrow.

[Kabraxal]

Maviarab wrote...

Ummmm thansk kabrax....*pushes kabrax away and backs up slowly*....

Why? hehehe

*shyly fidgets*

I'm not overly fond of modern medicine... I've seen it do far more harm than good in the lives of my family.

[timedrake32]

 TALI RULES AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHH

[Andysilv]

timedrake32 wrote...

 TALI RULES AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHH

**** off!

[DarthReavus]

andysilv87 wrote...

timedrake32 wrote...

 TALI RULES AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHH

**** off!

[Jediknight120]

DarthReavus wrote...

SgtPotato wrote...

Hey, Darth. How's the chapter 4 coming along?

Slowly.  Been a bit tired for writing the last couple of days thanks to work.  I might carry on later this evening, but I should definitely have something for you all tomorrow.

We'll hold you to that!

[Melra]

timedrake32 wrote...

 TALI RULES AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHH

Wrong thread.

Edit: Fixed by request of Lord Reavus 

Modifié par Melrache, 04 mars 2010 - 05:16 .

[DarthReavus]

Mel, try this one:

[Kabraxal]

Hey, it gives us something to laugh at and mock.... other than ourselves.

[Annjul666]

*quoting andy* yes. GTFO of Miri love thread.



pills are necessary from time to time. i am not addicted, we take them to stop the pain.

[DarthReavus]

Annjul666 wrote...

*quoting andy* yes. GTFO of Miri love thread.

pills are necessary from time to time. i am not addicted, we take them to stop the pain.

I need my pills!  *looks at empty vicodin bottle*

[9to82td]

timedrake32 wrote...

 TALI RULES AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHHH

Both picture were created by me.

Modifié par 9to82td, 04 mars 2010 - 05:17 .

[Andysilv]

DarthReavus wrote...
I need my pills!

Be sure to contact your doctor if the effect lasts longer than 4 hours.

[Kabraxal]

Annjul666 wrote...

*quoting andy* yes. GTFO of Miri love thread.

pills are necessary from time to time. i am not addicted, we take them to stop the pain.

I thought so for a while myself... but then I just gave up on them and haven't taken a single pill in about 3 years now.  Haven't seen the doctor either in about 2.

And I'm doing fine.. really, the voices in my head can be trusted. 

[DarthReavus]

Maviarab wrote...

Gotya kabrax...
I have nothing really against modern medicine, belioeve it can be a great help at times (though that in itself brings other issues and problems, but thats another discussion) I just think that in this modern world, every little ailment or complaint, take a tablet for this, painkiller for that etc etc....

becoming reliant on them at times, rather than say, just getting on with it. Only time I ever take pills is for migraines (but I can spot the signs of one so dint suffer as much from them as I did) or the occasional tooth absess...

I have patellar tendinitis so every so often I need to take some Nurofen Plus for it.  Perfect mix for the condition really, codeine for the pain and ibuprofen for the inflammation all in one pill.

[Ieldra]

Kabraxal wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

[...]However, that does not mean that  mind over matter doesnit fit in such a science fiction universe.

But then I don't believe in a physical, causally closed universe.  Physicalism just doesn't work for me.  So science fiction and fantasy are alike in that respect for me. 

So, what works for you, if you don't mind the question? For me, it's like this: Dualism doesn't work, because as soon as you have one fundamental aspect act on the other, the duality collapses into one. Idealism doesn't work either, because there too many indications that abstract concepts do not have a reality of their own.

BTW, I vote for "eroticism" as the "ism" of the day.

I believe in a form of idealism.  The "physical" world was created with limitations and boundaries, that operate both seperate and in connection with the "spiritual" world.  While the physical world is mostly constructed and run by physical principles and consists of physical actions, the constant substratum necessary for it to continue to function has to be something that is boundless and eternal.  This substratum can override the physical at any one point, but mostly it is "dormnat".

The most natural analogy is that of a vidoe game actually.  There is a basic programming and structure to the particular world in question, but at any time, the creative force to that universe can alter the code temporarily (cheats) or completely rewrite aspects of the world (mods).  

In the "real" world the "programmer" is naturally beyond our current perceptions becuase we are part of the limited, bounded world.  The "programmerr" is not.  It doesn't operate by our programmed rules, thus it is alien. 

Also, abstract ideas by their very nature would not have a reality in comparison to the physical concrete identities.  Abstract ideas are non-physical properties, thus the reality is inherently different and will not be discovered by empirical observation. Also... consciousness is quite a wildcard in this discussion.  Physical science cannot explain its existence, nor even prove it... yet we all know it does exist simply becuase we are conscious.  No physical proof.  No concrete foundation... simple abstract certainty. 

The problem of science... it cannot prove or disprove the metaphysical.  It is limited to a physical plane of existence. 

Word of warning though... never invite a philosopher to talk about metaphysics!  We all love to get long winded!

Well, I can see you'll not be easily moved from your position. But I would like to point out a few things:

(1) If you cannot prove the metaphyical by logic and not by observation, isn't this indication enough that it doesn't exist?
(2) We experience ourselves as conscious, that we can say with some measure of certainty. Nothing more. It's a problem of language in some way: our minds can "nominalize" a process as an entity, but that does not mean that there is anything in reality corresponding to that entity. Consciousness might just be an attribute of living matter above a certain level of complexity. In fact, I do think it is an emergent property that can't be observed at lower levels. I am quite convinced that science will show this at some time. 
(3) Abstract ideas are information. Information can't exist without a carrier. All right, you can *say* there is something fundamentally non-physical about it, but that's nothing more than an unfounded statement. My answer, equally unproven but IMO more plausible, would be that abstract ideas vanish when they are separated from a carrier (a human brain, for instance).
(You might notice I argue from a nominalist position, which means we probably won't find common ground)

What it comes to is that I can't see the necessity of the nonphysical to explain anything. Add that it can't be proven, and it remains purely in the realm of belief. And that was never enough for me.

OK, this is, interesting as it is, as OT in this thread as "Chuck"....which means we can continue this, LOL!!!