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#11726
Kabraxal

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andysilv87 wrote...

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I feel sorry for the people who come in here actually expecting a meaningful discussion.


*Laughs* Yeah...that's just not going to happen. That's the problem with a thread dedicated to a single character, you tend to run out of things to talk about rather fast. So the end result is usually something like what we've got now.

Not that I'm complaining.


Yeah, I certainly don't mind going OT but hopefully we can find something Miranda related to discuss soon. Image IPB


Pfft.  Just go with the flow, we alwasy get back to the goddess anyhow.

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Kab, Kab, Kab.  Miranda is not solely yours.  She belongs to all Mirimaniacs and loves us all equally.  Attempting to possess her is breaking the first law of Mirimania - All for Miri and Miri for All.

As for Flashy, I can't be held accountable for what she dreams in her sleep.  Know that if what you suspected was true, Meg would already have killed me :lol:

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Let's assume that Shepard has the Spacer background....how do you think Shepard's mom would react to her son fallinf for a former Cerberus agent....albeit a very hot Cerberus agent. Thoughts?

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DarthReavus wrote...

Kab, Kab, Kab.  Miranda is not solely yours.  She belongs to all Mirimaniacs and loves us all equally.  Attempting to possess her is breaking the first law of Mirimania - All for Miri and Miri for All.

As for Flashy, I can't be held accountable for what she dreams in her sleep.  Know that if what you suspected was true, Meg would already have killed me :lol:


I share Miri.. is it my fault you insulted her last joke and she smacked the stuffing out of you?!

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DarthReavus wrote...

Kab, Kab, Kab.  Miranda is not solely yours.  She belongs to all Mirimaniacs and loves us all equally.  Attempting to possess her is breaking the first law of Mirimania - All for Miri and Miri for All.

As for Flashy, I can't be held accountable for what she dreams in her sleep.  Know that if what you suspected was true, Meg would already have killed me :lol:

Killed you for what? Did I miss something?  :huh:

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Breakdown Boy wrote...

Let's assume that Shepard has the Spacer background....how do you think Shepard's mom would react to her son fallinf for a former Cerberus agent....albeit a very hot Cerberus agent. Thoughts?


There isn't much info on the mother for me to really guess.  I would say she would balk slightly than accept it if it is love.  She knows how hard his life has been, why cause more grief.

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MegWithAMouth wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

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Oh no. I will not betray Flashy! Or Miranda! 2 gorgeous women really aren't enough to satisfy you?


Flashy whispers in her sleep and I see how Miri looks at you.

*smiles sweetly*

So...

*shoots hanging cannister and it drops on Darth*

Dinner?  Movie?  Moonlight walk across the shores of a crystaline lake, white wine, and a relaxing midnight massage?

Miranda... looks at me? Really? And a massage? Darth never treats me that well...

What about all those walks in the country with a picnic of strawberries and cream? :crying:

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Ieldra2 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

I feel sorry for the people who come in here actually expecting a meaningful discussion.


QFT.

The problem is that for us regulars here, almost everything about Miranda has been discussed. Some of it repeatedly. What I resent a bit is that interesting posts relating to Miranda, like Strikor's asking for our preferences regarding new Miranda pictures, are often drowned in chat so fast that they might as well not exist. I've PMed Strikor my reply in addition to posting it here because of that. That I felt the need to do that is indication enought that something is wrong in this thread.

I think we should not try to speed up the thread by drowning it in chat. And embarrassing chat at that (sometimes, for those who post it). If that means we go slower, then so be it.


I've got to agree with the bit I highlighted, I've seen perfectly good discussions lost in chat, and I feel bad because it's usually something I find interesting, and while I might not have anything relevant to add, would like to keep up with it nonetheless. A slower pace would be ideal, but in all honesty I don't think it's going to happen.

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Breakdown Boy wrote...

Let's assume that Shepard has the Spacer background....how do you think Shepard's mom would react to her son fallinf for a former Cerberus agent....albeit a very hot Cerberus agent. Thoughts?


Meet the Parents with Miranda, lol. I suppose she'd be ok with it after Miranda helped destroy the collectors and all that.

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MegWithAMouth wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Kab, Kab, Kab.  Miranda is not solely yours.  She belongs to all Mirimaniacs and loves us all equally.  Attempting to possess her is breaking the first law of Mirimania - All for Miri and Miri for All.

As for Flashy, I can't be held accountable for what she dreams in her sleep.  Know that if what you suspected was true, Meg would already have killed me :lol:

Killed you for what? Did I miss something?  :huh:

I misread one of Kab's prior posts.  I feel so stupid right now...:(

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DarthReavus wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Oh no. I will not betray Flashy! Or Miranda! 2 gorgeous women really aren't enough to satisfy you?


Flashy whispers in her sleep and I see how Miri looks at you.

*smiles sweetly*

So...

*shoots hanging cannister and it drops on Darth*

Dinner?  Movie?  Moonlight walk across the shores of a crystaline lake, white wine, and a relaxing midnight massage?

Miranda... looks at me? Really? And a massage? Darth never treats me that well...

What about all those walks in the country with a picnic of strawberries and cream? :crying:



Make up with Miri, and you can both join us on the long midnight stroll... just don't insult her jokes again!

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andysilv87 wrote...

Breakdown Boy wrote...

Let's assume that Shepard has the Spacer background....how do you think Shepard's mom would react to her son fallinf for a former Cerberus agent....albeit a very hot Cerberus agent. Thoughts?


Meet the Parents with Miranda, lol. I suppose she'd be ok with it after Miranda helped destroy the collectors and all that.

Dad'd probably end up choking and spitting his coffee halfway across the room as soon as she walked in :o

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DarthReavus wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Kab, Kab, Kab.  Miranda is not solely yours.  She belongs to all Mirimaniacs and loves us all equally.  Attempting to possess her is breaking the first law of Mirimania - All for Miri and Miri for All.

As for Flashy, I can't be held accountable for what she dreams in her sleep.  Know that if what you suspected was true, Meg would already have killed me :lol:

Killed you for what? Did I miss something?  :huh:

I misread one of Kab's prior posts.  I feel so stupid right now...:(


No, I don't think you did...

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Yeah, I certainly don't mind going OT but hopefully we can find something Miranda related to discuss soon. Image IPB

All right. Here is a question for you:

How, do you think, does Miranda's and Shepard's future, in fact, their existence as what they are in the first place, relate to the future of humanity as a whole?

*Miranda represents a human optimized at the genetic level, with no changes to morphology. "Human, only better". This is one path that can be taken by the species as a whole.
*Shepard represents optimization by foreign-matter implants. This is another path that can be taken. It can also be taken to the extreme, resulting in characters who aren't really human anymore.

Two more paths are imaginabe:
*Genetic adaptation to different environments, including changes in morphology. That would result in a human species fragmented into differently adapted sub-species, and may in time result in populations becoming a species of their own (a species as opposed to a race is defined by only being able to procreate with others of the same species).
*And the ultra-conservative path: leave everything to random chance as it has been in the past.

And I hope this post does not get drowned in chat so fast that nobody notices its existence.

#11740
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Don't worry, my PC finally finished updating and I'm going to take a break to work out... so no off topic banter from me...



*sniffs as he feels unloved*

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Kabraxal wrote...

Don't worry, my PC finally finished updating and I'm going to take a break to work out... so no off topic banter from me...

*sniffs as he feels unloved*

Take a cold shower while you're at it....

Anyway, back to our beloved Mirivonne!

#11742
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I think I'm going to turn in. Night everyone!

#11743
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AccursedOdin wrote...

I think I'm going to turn in. Night everyone!

Goodnight Odin, take care!

#11744
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Ieldra2 wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...
Yeah, I certainly don't mind going OT but hopefully we can find something Miranda related to discuss soon. Image IPB

All right. Here is a question for you:

How, do you think, does Miranda's and Shepard's future, in fact, their existence as what they are in the first place, relate to the future of humanity as a whole?

*Miranda represents a human optimized at the genetic level, with no changes to morphology. "Human, only better". This is one path that can be taken by the species as a whole.
*Shepard represents optimization by foreign-matter implants. This is another path that can be taken. It can also be taken to the extreme, resulting in characters who aren't really human anymore.

Two more paths are imaginabe:
*Genetic adaptation to different environments, including changes in morphology. That would result in a human species fragmented into differently adapted sub-species, and may in time result in populations becoming a species of their own (a species as opposed to a race is defined by only being able to procreate with others of the same species).
*And the ultra-conservative path: leave everything to random chance as it has been in the past.

And I hope this post does not get drowned in chat so fast that nobody notices its existence.


Well, I have to say you raise some interesting points. Unfortunately it's quite early in the morning at the moment and I'm having a very slow day so I seem to be struggling to get my head around your post.

One thing I will say is I expect Miranda's optimization to be the level all humans strive to reach in the future, her level of genetic engineering will probably become the norm providing the technology becomes more widely available.

Sorry for not being able to add more, but I wanted to reply with something because your post deserves some recognition. Image IPB

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I know we've probably discussed this at length before and I can't remember if anyone thought of this but... I think I know why Miranda is immortal up till the final battle segment.

If you think about it, it is fairly obvious. At the start of every segment there is a cut-scene in which Shepherd AND Miranda talk. After the vents, Shep talks with Doc, Joker and EDI chat, then either samara/morinth, jack or I think Miranda (is next in line after the former 2 if they dead/not recruited I think) talk bout biotic field, miri asks who want to do biotic field, miri asks diversion leader, miri states can't go back when doc asks for escort, shep states sending someone back (or not), cue 'Biotic walk', after biotic walk, Miri is the one to ask EDI what the next step is.

If you think about it, to have made Miri mortal before this point ie. able to be used as escort or killable during the diversion leader part if not loyal, would mean that they would basically have had to have created a ranked list of who would be next in line to take Miri's place in that cut-scene just before the final battle. Which would have meant every VA for the potential team would have needed to have done those lines and they would've needed to test each character in that spot.

Making Miri immortal till that scene saves them the time and hassle of doing that. :wizard:

Other than for a 'everyone dies' or 'shepherd and everyone but miri dies' playthrough would I contemplate having miri non-loyal, HELL to the NO :P

Edit: @Ieldra, well I think people are already working on the first two. To be honest I can quite easily see both being prevalent in the future and to some extent can't see either of them removing the other from choice. With regards cybernetics, I don't think for a long time we'll see the similar situation to that of say "Ghost In The Shell" or "Blade Runner" whereby someone is virtually 90%+ cybernetics with just their brain or something left that is their own.

There will of course be people who will remain in the fourth path simply because they will view the other ideas as wrong due to their beliefs be them religious or just ethics. I don't know if it is because am a sci-fi fan, but I am a big believer in cybernetics. I doubt I'll be around when they become mainstream and affordable though hehe

Modifié par Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien, 05 mars 2010 - 09:39 .


#11746
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Miri can't die! Shepard and Miri must spawn the next hero of the galaxy! After anormous amounts of hot space....

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Breakdown Boy wrote...

Miri can't die! Shepard and Miri must spawn the next hero of the galaxy! After anormous amounts of hot space....


Lol, imagine how epic Miranda & Shepard's children will be. They'll be heroes, bloody icons! Image IPB

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I just feel sorry for Johnny Average trying to date their daughter...

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DarthReavus wrote...

I just feel sorry for Johnny Average trying to date their daughter...


Lol, where's Rath when you need him? Image IPB

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andysilv87 wrote...
Lol, imagine how epic Miranda & Shepard's children will be. They'll be heroes, bloody icons! Image IPB


This ^