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[Melra]

andysilv87 wrote...

Breakdown Boy wrote...

Miri can't die! Shepard and Miri must spawn the next hero of the galaxy! After anormous amounts of hot space....

Lol, imagine how epic Miranda & Shepard's children will be. They'll be heroes, bloody icons!

Or complete mutations.  Too much of anything is too much. 

[Breakdown Boy]

andysilv87 wrote...

Breakdown Boy wrote...

Miri can't die! Shepard and Miri must spawn the next hero of the galaxy! After anormous amounts of hot space....

Lol, imagine how epic Miranda & Shepard's children will be. They'll be heroes, bloody icons!

Can't see either one of them staying home and taking care of the kids....see Dr Chakwas become the nanny with the infirmary of Normany changed into a nursery for future saviors of the galaxy... 

[DarthReavus]

andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I just feel sorry for Johnny Average trying to date their daughter...

Lol, where's Rath when you need him?

Shepard: So Johnny, do you understand the rules for the prom tonight?
Johnny: Yes sir.
Shepard: Repeat them back to me...
Johnny: Sir, if your daughter's innocence is not intact at the end of the night I will be paying an unpleasant visit to Clan Urdnot, sir!
Shepard:  Good boy.
Miranda:  That's a bit...tame, isn't it honey?
Johnny: *gulps*

[Andysilv]

Very good, Darth, very good.

[Kabraxal]

I came back in just to say I'll be off for a while. That persistent **** mood of mine won't let go. Gods, I really wish drinking would help me forget.

[DarthReavus]

andysilv87 wrote...

Very good, Darth, very good.

The irony is that Shepard would congratulate his son on bed-hopping, either that or just make no comment on it.  Yet as soon as anyone gets close to his daughter the guns come out...

[MegWithAMouth]

andysilv87 wrote...

Very good, Darth, very good.

I second that.

[DarthReavus]

Kabraxal wrote...

I came back in just to say I'll be off for a while. That persistent **** mood of mine won't let go. Gods, I really wish drinking would help me forget.

Take a walk or something Kab, don't let a bad mood linger over your day!

[Kabraxal]

DarthReavus wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

I came back in just to say I'll be off for a while. That persistent **** mood of mine won't let go. Gods, I really wish drinking would help me forget.

Take a walk or something Kab, don't let a bad mood linger over your day!

It was why I worked out.  Nothing helps anymore though, not even a good Miri romance.

[MegWithAMouth]

Aw, I hope you feel better, Kab. I know how much nights like those suck.

[DarthReavus]

Kabraxal wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

I came back in just to say I'll be off for a while. That persistent **** mood of mine won't let go. Gods, I really wish drinking would help me forget.

Take a walk or something Kab, don't let a bad mood linger over your day!

It was why I worked out.  Nothing helps anymore though, not even a good Miri romance.

It's all in your mind, you just need to find an outlet for all the pent up emotion.  Cry if necessary...

[Ieldra]

andysilv87 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...
Yeah, I certainly don't mind going OT but hopefully we can find something Miranda related to discuss soon.

All right. Here is a question for you:

How, do you think, does Miranda's and Shepard's future, in fact, their existence as what they are in the first place, relate to the future of humanity as a whole?

*Miranda represents a human optimized at the genetic level, with no changes to morphology. "Human, only better". This is one path that can be taken by the species as a whole.
*Shepard represents optimization by foreign-matter implants. This is another path that can be taken. It can also be taken to the extreme, resulting in characters who aren't really human anymore.

Two more paths are imaginabe:
*Genetic adaptation to different environments, including changes in morphology. That would result in a human species fragmented into differently adapted sub-species, and may in time result in populations becoming a species of their own (a species as opposed to a race is defined by only being able to procreate with others of the same species).
*And the ultra-conservative path: leave everything to random chance as it has been in the past.

And I hope this post does not get drowned in chat so fast that nobody notices its existence.

Well, I have to say you raise some interesting points. Unfortunately it's quite early in the morning at the moment and I'm having a very slow day so I seem to be struggling to get my head around your post.

One thing I will say is I expect Miranda's optimization to be the level all humans strive to reach in the future, her level of genetic engineering will probably become the norm providing the technology becomes more widely available.

Yes, that's what I think, too. Miranda's optimization is unproblematic because it preserves human identity mostly unchanged. It poses no challenge except to fundamentalists.
Foreign-matter implants like Shepards will influence human culture, and decisions will have to be made about what's considered desirable and what not. But they won't change the species as such, because they can't be passed on.
Regarding the other paths, it's interesting to note that no alien species has tried environmental adaptation at the genetic level. I would've thought that with thousands of years of technological civilization, someone would have. But no, the Krell move to a different world without even trying, taking the risk of death by environment-induced disease rather than trying to adapt. An interesting blind eye, since from today's point of view that knowledge may require a hundred years or more of research, but it's less miraculous than FTL spaceflight or biotics.

[Ieldra]

DarthReavus wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I just feel sorry for Johnny Average trying to date their daughter...

Lol, where's Rath when you need him?

Shepard: So Johnny, do you understand the rules for the prom tonight?
Johnny: Yes sir.
Shepard: Repeat them back to me...
Johnny: Sir, if your daughter's innocence is not intact at the end of the night I will be paying an unpleasant visit to Clan Urdnot, sir!
Shepard:  Good boy.
Miranda:  That's a bit...tame, isn't it honey?
Johnny: *gulps*

This does not sound in character. I don't think Miranda would be as overprotective after her experience with her control freak of a father. I can even see Shepard and Miranda having a fight about that, as in: he's overprotective, she accuses him of being too much like her father.

Ah, and I should add that rather than protecting their daughter, they would teach her to protect herself!! There are too many stereotypes floating around here!

Modifié par Ieldra2, 05 mars 2010 - 09:56 .

[Kabraxal]

DarthReavus wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

I came back in just to say I'll be off for a while. That persistent **** mood of mine won't let go. Gods, I really wish drinking would help me forget.

Take a walk or something Kab, don't let a bad mood linger over your day!

It was why I worked out.  Nothing helps anymore though, not even a good Miri romance.

It's all in your mind, you just need to find an outlet for all the pent up emotion.  Cry if necessary...

It's called gamefaqs... though arguing with the mindless little trolls usually engenders anger... but at least it ain't depression.  I am seriously considering going off one day and telling that whole site to **** off. 

[DarthReavus]

Leave GameFAQs then...

[Andysilv]

Kabraxal wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

I came back in just to say I'll be off for a while. That persistent **** mood of mine won't let go. Gods, I really wish drinking would help me forget.

Take a walk or something Kab, don't let a bad mood linger over your day!

It was why I worked out.  Nothing helps anymore though, not even a good Miri romance.

It's all in your mind, you just need to find an outlet for all the pent up emotion.  Cry if necessary...

It's called gamefaqs... though arguing with the mindless little trolls usually engenders anger... but at least it ain't depression.  I am seriously considering going off one day and telling that whole site to **** off. 

Oh, why do you even bother? 95% of the GameFaqs community are a bunch of whiny pricks.

[Breakdown Boy]

DarthReavus wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I just feel sorry for Johnny Average trying to date their daughter...

Lol, where's Rath when you need him?

Shepard: So Johnny, do you understand the rules for the prom tonight?
Johnny: Yes sir.
Shepard: Repeat them back to me...
Johnny: Sir, if your daughter's innocence is not intact at the end of the night I will be paying an unpleasant visit to Clan Urdnot, sir!
Shepard:  Good boy.
Miranda:  That's a bit...tame, isn't it honey?
Johnny: *gulps*

What would be crazy is when(colony / Skylian blitz) Shepard's daughter brings home a Batarian boyfriend....

[Kabraxal]

DarthReavus wrote...

Leave GameFAQs then...

But there are two people I like there... hard choice eh?

Mostly I'm just tired of trying anymore.  The world seems intent on kicking me in my daddy bags when I finally build up a head of steam. 

Did you know I was actually feeling good when I woke up?  Then I get ****ed at for not being something that I could never hope to be, my computer gets that annoying virus scan pop up virus that takes forever to install, and I can't write now because I am so ****ing frazzled.

Hence why I tend to be a bit more silly here.  At least it's fun most of the time. 

[DarthReavus]

Breakdown Boy wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I just feel sorry for Johnny Average trying to date their daughter...

Lol, where's Rath when you need him?

Shepard: So Johnny, do you understand the rules for the prom tonight?
Johnny: Yes sir.
Shepard: Repeat them back to me...
Johnny: Sir, if your daughter's innocence is not intact at the end of the night I will be paying an unpleasant visit to Clan Urdnot, sir!
Shepard:  Good boy.
Miranda:  That's a bit...tame, isn't it honey?
Johnny: *gulps*

What would be crazy is when(colony / Skylian blitz) Shepard's daughter brings home a Batarian boyfriend....

You'd hear the unmistakable thud of a Batarian corpse hitting the floor...

[Melra]

Breakdown Boy wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I just feel sorry for Johnny Average trying to date their daughter...

Lol, where's Rath when you need him?

Shepard: So Johnny, do you understand the rules for the prom tonight?
Johnny: Yes sir.
Shepard: Repeat them back to me...
Johnny: Sir, if your daughter's innocence is not intact at the end of the night I will be paying an unpleasant visit to Clan Urdnot, sir!
Shepard:  Good boy.
Miranda:  That's a bit...tame, isn't it honey?
Johnny: *gulps*

What would be crazy is when(colony / Skylian blitz) Shepard's daughter brings home a Batarian boyfriend....

...... ''That is no daughter of mine'' 

[DarthReavus]

Kabraxal wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Leave GameFAQs then...

But there are two people I like there... hard choice eh?

Mostly I'm just tired of trying anymore.  The world seems intent on kicking me in my daddy bags when I finally build up a head of steam. 

Did you know I was actually feeling good when I woke up?  Then I get ****ed at for not being something that I could never hope to be, my computer gets that annoying virus scan pop up virus that takes forever to install, and I can't write now because I am so ****ing frazzled.

Hence why I tend to be a bit more silly here.  At least it's fun most of the time. 

Then continue the silliness and don't let annoying buttplugs like those on gamefqs get you down.

[Andysilv]

Kabraxal wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Leave GameFAQs then...

But there are two people I like there... hard choice eh?

Mostly I'm just tired of trying anymore.  The world seems intent on kicking me in my daddy bags when I finally build up a head of steam. 

Did you know I was actually feeling good when I woke up?  Then I get ****ed at for not being something that I could never hope to be, my computer gets that annoying virus scan pop up virus that takes forever to install, and I can't write now because I am so ****ing frazzled.

Hence why I tend to be a bit more silly here.  At least it's fun most of the time. 

*Hands Kabraxal a bag of chocolate*

Edit: A strong example of the superb discussions taking place on GF.
http://www.gamefaqs....&topic=53767889

Modifié par andysilv87, 05 mars 2010 - 10:10 .

[Kabraxal]

andysilv87 wrote...

Kabraxal wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Leave GameFAQs then...

But there are two people I like there... hard choice eh?

Mostly I'm just tired of trying anymore.  The world seems intent on kicking me in my daddy bags when I finally build up a head of steam. 

Did you know I was actually feeling good when I woke up?  Then I get ****ed at for not being something that I could never hope to be, my computer gets that annoying virus scan pop up virus that takes forever to install, and I can't write now because I am so ****ing frazzled.

Hence why I tend to be a bit more silly here.  At least it's fun most of the time. 

*Hands Kabraxal a bag of chocolate*

*takes it and eats it all*

Mmm... creamy.


And I will have to use the buttplug line in gfaqs... that describes three certain posters perfectly.

[Kabraxal]

DarthReavus wrote...

Breakdown Boy wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I just feel sorry for Johnny Average trying to date their daughter...

Lol, where's Rath when you need him?

Shepard: So Johnny, do you understand the rules for the prom tonight?
Johnny: Yes sir.
Shepard: Repeat them back to me...
Johnny: Sir, if your daughter's innocence is not intact at the end of the night I will be paying an unpleasant visit to Clan Urdnot, sir!
Shepard:  Good boy.
Miranda:  That's a bit...tame, isn't it honey?
Johnny: *gulps*

What would be crazy is when(colony / Skylian blitz) Shepard's daughter brings home a Batarian boyfriend....

You'd hear the unmistakable thud of a Batarian corpse hitting the floor...

[Ieldra]

DarthReavus wrote...

Breakdown Boy wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I just feel sorry for Johnny Average trying to date their daughter...

Lol, where's Rath when you need him?

Shepard: So Johnny, do you understand the rules for the prom tonight?
Johnny: Yes sir.
Shepard: Repeat them back to me...
Johnny: Sir, if your daughter's innocence is not intact at the end of the night I will be paying an unpleasant visit to Clan Urdnot, sir!
Shepard:  Good boy.
Miranda:  That's a bit...tame, isn't it honey?
Johnny: *gulps*

What would be crazy is when(colony / Skylian blitz) Shepard's daughter brings home a Batarian boyfriend....

You'd hear the unmistakable thud of a Batarian corpse hitting the floor...

Bah. I'd hope they would be less racist.

I don't like Batarians as a rule, but even they deserve to be judged as individuals. You know, he *may* just be the rare exception.

That is, if I believed in human/alien romance in the first place, which I don't.