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Kabraxal

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Ieldra2 wrote...

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I don't think humanity is defined by the genetic characteristics such as Shep and Miri are physically defined though.  That is one of the reason's why I like Miri so much.  She is a wonderful example of a person who seeks to define themselves not by their body or their specific enhancements, but by their deeds and their emotions.  In that respect, Miri and Shepard could have an intense impact on the human race because they signify that the "improvements" are not the true answer to greatness... it is the human spirit and the will to persevere.

No, genetic makeup does not define a human, but it sets limits to what one can achieve. Miranda has higher limits in certain areas than other humans, but what she makes of it is left to her. That "human spirit and will to persevere" can do miraculous things, but it won't let us go over the limits set by our genetic makeup. And of course, genetic modification won't easily affect things that are defined by our culture, like values we embrace. Miranda is, indeed, a wonderful example of that. She is physically improved, but there can be no know that she is human. Wouldn't we all want to be like that?


I guess it comes back to our mind over matter disagreement.  I don't think the body is the ultimate limitation.  While in normal conditions it defines our upper limits, that can be broken by sheer strength of will. 

And for the last question, if you are asking about being modified: hell know.  I'll take my natural body over genetic enhancement every time.  As for strength of will or particular value judgement: I think most people wish they had such strength.

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Maviarab wrote...

Ummmm Senior loghain....

Didnt I kill you and make your daughter cry? :P


:wizard: I let her marry Alistair and she cried more.

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Maviarab wrote...

guardian,

well those would only come into play if you were religious in the first place...which I am not lol...but in all seriousness....depending on your frame of mind, can those 'hells' be any worse than someones 'current hell' ?

Plus, always made me luagh that its illegal lmao....I mean seriously....think about it lol.

Minor correction there Mavi.  It's not illegal to successfully commit suicide but it is illegal to try and fail...

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The star to ignite your spark is here!

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Melrache wrote...

The star to ignite your spark is here!

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Ill kiss those red sexy lips :wub::wub::wub:<3<3<3:wizard::wizard::wizard:

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kraidy1117 wrote...

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The blight is the true threat!


No one denies that the Blight is real! The real question is whether or not we need the Wardens to defeat it!


Realy, then why did you let How torture nobles!


Howe was responsible for himself. The Maker will give him what's coming to him, you made sure of that.

He should have been brought before the Seneschal! Not murdered in cold blood!

Maviarab wrote...

Ummmm Senior loghain....

Didnt I kill you and make your daughter cry? :P


I am not a man. I am a symbol! A symbol for this nation!

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

Ummmm Senior loghain....

Didnt I kill you and make your daughter cry? :P


:wizard: I let her marry Alistair and she cried more.


You are beyond cruel...

good morning folks.

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The bell boy looks like a badass mutha f*cker...

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Ahhhh a symbol eh?

Okkaaaaaaayyyyyyyy......a symbol of madness and despair perhaps?



And ahh yeah...thanks for that Darth....hehe :)

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DarthReavus wrote...

The bell boy looks like a badass mutha f*cker...


Yeah, I noticed that too. He looks like he is ready to whoop some ass.

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kraidy1117

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ToshiStation38 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

ToshiStation38 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

The blight is the true threat!


No one denies that the Blight is real! The real question is whether or not we need the Wardens to defeat it!


Realy, then why did you let How torture nobles!


Howe was responsible for himself. The Maker will give him what's coming to him, you made sure of that.

He should have been brought before the Seneschal! Not murdered in cold blood!

Maviarab wrote...

Ummmm Senior loghain....

Didnt I kill you and make your daughter cry? :P


I am not a man. I am a symbol! A symbol for this nation!


Oh realy, so why did you posion Arl Eamon?

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I'm lost...

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Maviarab wrote...

Ahhhh a symbol eh?
Okkaaaaaaayyyyyyyy......a symbol of madness and despair perhaps?

And ahh yeah...thanks for that Darth....hehe :)

I had a feeling it would make you chuckle ^_^

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Maviarab wrote...

guardian,

well those would only come into play if you were religious in the first place...which I am not lol...but in all seriousness....depending on your frame of mind, can those 'hells' be any worse than someones 'current hell' ?

Plus, always made me luagh that its illegal lmao....I mean seriously....think about it lol.

Not my point
My point is right or wrong, good or evil, is determind by point of view

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I love these pics because it shows her eyes. :wub:

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kraidy1117 wrote...

Oh realy, so why did you posion Arl Eamon?


I didn't.

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Now I'm going to take a shower.

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Maviarab wrote...

Kraidy...
Thats an interesting question indeed. I do not think it is right or wrong to be honest, but can understand why some people do it, and frankly, do not blame them.
Its a touchy subject, most think its a cowards way out, I have the opposing view, i think it takes great amount of courage.

Right and wrong, good and bad don't really come into it....its not really that black and white I don't think.

Interesting subject.

I consider it my inalienable right to end my own life if I want to. If you don't have at least that right, your life doesn't belong to you in any meaningful way. Religious people might be able to accept that, but I am not. I've never wanted to do it, and I'm much too curious about the future to take such a step without extreme pressure, but it's a nice thought that it's possible if things get too bad.

Second, people debate what comes after death all the time. One of the few thingss that could really make me do it is this curiosity. Die, and either I'll know, or it won't matter. I won't do it though. I'm sure enough my individuality will not survive my physical death. It would be a waste of precious time living.  

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Well ima go eat some lunch, cya guys later.

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@ Mav



Nice pics man!!

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See you Kraidy!

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Kabraxal wrote...
And for the last question, if you are asking about being modified: hell know.  I'll take my natural body over genetic enhancement every time.

Acquire a serious chronic disease and tell me that again.For the other things, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 05 mars 2010 - 04:01 .


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Is there seriously talk of suicide in this here LOVE thread?



I personally think suicide is a very selfish option.

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Guardian...

People can do the wrong thing for the right reasons, and the right things for all the wrong reasons...

Religion really doesnt come into it, heard of a lot of religious people deciding life is not worth living...



Ield, but if your life is precious, then you must believe you have something to live for? Many don't....but agreed, its my life, my body, and I 'should' have free reign over it to do with it as I see fit...

But the government would dismiss that claim heh :)

#12050
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Bah, this just makes me wanna play ME 1 all over again:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtBbwtY6ROo&feature=related



Only three bad things about ME1:



1.FPS Spikes

2. Gameplay when comparing to ME2

3. No Miranda.