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[Flashy91]

DarthReavus wrote...

Flashy91 wrote...

GAHHAAHAHH! Stop making me wanna go play KoToR!
Oh *Waves* Hi everyone!

Hey Flashy.

Helloz Darth, I would ask what I missed but -------  Oh dearie.
Hey were talking about Miri again!
 *Reads what everyone thinks and as usual keeps smart thoughts in head because they always echo what someone else said*

[Sleepy Buddha]

kraidy1117 wrote...

I could always bring back the comparing Miri to Bastila topic I said last time. Both have alot in common.

See, I disagree with that.

You could say that Miranda's and Bastila's paths in life have a lot in common.

But as far as their personalities are concerned, IMO they're very different.

Miranda, despite her issues of self-worth, is confident, independent and driven. Though she worries about making mistakes, she's not terrified by them and does what she believes is right, accepting responsability for her actions. She's psychologicaly strong and her distant exterior is mostly due to her professional demeanor.

Bastila, on the other hand, is full of self-doubt and too dependent on the guidance of others. She's riddled with fear of herself, and paralyzed by the thought that she might fail and fall to the dark
side. She acts according not to her conscience but to what she believes the masters would approve  She's psychologicaly quite frail and her distant demeanor stems from an attempt to bury her emotions, instead of trying to understand and control them.

At least, that's how I see them. And it actually took Miranda for me to realize how deeply flawed Bastila's personality is in certain aspects.

[MegWithAMouth]

redBadger14 wrote...

"Real close, then far apart" only suggests to me that they had a thing for each other, but something happened that made Miranda or Jacob or both think otherwise. It's not enough to suggest "sex" to me, or at all, and I think their separation may be connected to Miranda and Jacob's mission with Ish. You find this out if you bring Jacob with you when you talk to Ish. I think Jacob almost died in the mission. So maybe the end result of that mission led to Miranda and Jacob coming to the consensus that they weren't right for each other.

Good points. I support this logic. I also don't see how any of his comments could be taken to "heavily imply" they had sex. Or even subtly imply it. If we were reading that far into things then we could say some of TIM or Miranda's comments implied that they did the dirty dirty.

Sidenote: Am I the only one who really loves how Miranda says Jacob's name? Especially at the "ah, Jacob" part?

[kraidy1117]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I could always bring back the comparing Miri to Bastila topic I said last time. Both have alot in common.

See, I disagree with that.

You could say that Miranda's and Bastila's paths in life have a lot in common.

But as far as their personalities are concerned, IMO they're very different.

Miranda, despite her issues of self-worth, is confident, independent and driven. Though she worries about making mistakes, she's not terrified by them and does what she believes is right, accepting responsability for her actions. She's psychologicaly strong and her distant exterior is mostly due to her professional demeanor.

Bastila, on the other hand, is full of self-doubt and too dependent on the guidance of others. She's riddled with fear of herself, and paralyzed by the thought that she might fail and fall to the dark
side. She acts according not to her conscience but to what she believes the masters would approve  She's psychologicaly quite frail and her distant demeanor stems from an attempt to bury her emotions, instead of trying to understand and control them.

At least, that's how I see them. And it actually took Miranda for me to realize how deeply flawed Bastila's personality is in certain aspects.

Well thats you, to me Miri is pretty much Bastila for ME. Thats why I love her character so much. Plus look at that list. There is too much similarties.

[Vyndael]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Vyndael wrote...

Flashy91 wrote...

GAHHAAHAHH! Stop making me wanna go play KoToR!
Oh *Waves* Hi everyone!

Hey Flashy! I'm tempted to go play KOTOR now too 

and tease Bastila?

You know it.Bastila Shan: On which planet were you born?Revan: Kashyyyk. I'm a Wookiee...can't you tell?Bastila Shan: What is your background?Revan: I'm a Hutt in human form planning to overthrow the Republic.Bastilla Shan: How old are you?Revan: 3012. Healthy living, you know.Bastila Shan: I see you intend to be childish about this.[/list]

[kraidy1117]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

"Real close, then far apart" only suggests to me that they had a thing for each other, but something happened that made Miranda or Jacob or both think otherwise. It's not enough to suggest "sex" to me, or at all, and I think their separation may be connected to Miranda and Jacob's mission with Ish. You find this out if you bring Jacob with you when you talk to Ish. I think Jacob almost died in the mission. So maybe the end result of that mission led to Miranda and Jacob coming to the consensus that they weren't right for each other.

Good points. I support this logic. I also don't see how any of his comments could be taken to "heavily imply" they had sex. Or even subtly imply it. If we were reading that far into things then we could say some of TIM or Miranda's comments implied that they did the dirty dirty.

Sidenote: Am I the only one who really loves how Miranda says Jacob's name? Especially at the "ah, Jacob" part?

Then why does he get pissed off at you if you ask him? Plus if you where male and a woman like Miri came up to you with a party drink, you are telling me you would not have sex? They went through hell in that mission and she had feelings for Jacob. Maybe it's just because I played Galaxy and thats what I think >_>

[kraidy1117]

Vyndael wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Vyndael wrote...

Flashy91 wrote...

GAHHAAHAHH! Stop making me wanna go play KoToR!
Oh *Waves* Hi everyone!

Hey Flashy! I'm tempted to go play KOTOR now too 

and tease Bastila?

You know it.Bastila Shan: On which planet were you born?Revan: Kashyyyk. I'm a Wookiee...can't you tell?Bastila Shan: What is your background?Revan: I'm a Hutt in human form planning to overthrow the Republic.Bastilla Shan: How old are you?Revan: 3012. Healthy living, you know.Bastila Shan: I see you intend to be childish about this.[/list]

LOL it's fun to tease her when she says she has feelings for you. Ah the good times.

[Kleskus]

Hey guys.



What Mass Effect Galaxy add in Mass Effect 2? I just bought it

[Vyndael]

Kleskus wrote...

Hey guys.

What Mass Effect Galaxy add in Mass Effect 2? I just bought it

I believe it was just some extra dialogue. I could be wrong though.

[kraidy1117]

Kleskus wrote...

Hey guys.

What Mass Effect Galaxy add in Mass Effect 2? I just bought it

Theres a bonus item for you when you beat Galaxey

Also we are having an argument that Miri and Jacob had sex. I think he did just because they do show strong feelings in Galaxy and when you ask him he gets pissed off and I find what he says is a hint but thats just me >_>

[jtav]

I think Miranda has a very complex relationship with sex and romance. The backstory I've created for her in my head her occasionally sleeping with people as part of missions. She has, of necessity, learned to compartmentalize sex and love. I think she outs a very high price on herself when she doesn't have to sleep with people.



And now I have completely contradicted myself. Still working out how I feel, I guess.

[KalenNighteyes]

Hey all, I'm back!

[Vyndael]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Vyndael wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Vyndael wrote...

Flashy91 wrote...

GAHHAAHAHH! Stop making me wanna go play KoToR!
Oh *Waves* Hi everyone!

Hey Flashy! I'm tempted to go play KOTOR now too 

and tease Bastila?

You know it.Bastila Shan: On which planet were you born?Revan: Kashyyyk. I'm a Wookiee...can't you tell?Bastila Shan: What is your background?Revan: I'm a Hutt in human form planning to overthrow the Republic.Bastilla Shan: How old are you?Revan: 3012. Healthy living, you know.Bastila Shan: I see you intend to be childish about this.[/list]

LOL it's fun to tease her when she says she has feelings for you. Ah the good times.

One of my favorites Revan: You have something you want to ask me?Bastila Shan: I do. How did you know?Revan: Well...your face is all scrunched up like a kinrath pup.Bastila Shan: A... a kinrath pup?! It most certainly is not! I am a Jedi, remember? I have far too much mental discipline to reveal what goes on inside my mind with such obvious physical clues. My thoughts remain hidden, including whatever my feelings are for you. Uh, I mean whatever I feel *about* you… uh, I mean whatever I *think* about you.Revan: You’re so cute when you’re embarrassed.Bastila Shan: I, that is, you… why must you be so positively infuriating?![/list]

[Sleepy Buddha]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

I could always bring back the comparing Miri to Bastila topic I said last time. Both have alot in common.

See, I disagree with that.

You could say that Miranda's and Bastila's paths in life have a lot in common.

But as far as their personalities are concerned, IMO they're very different.

Miranda, despite her issues of self-worth, is confident, independent and driven. Though she worries about making mistakes, she's not terrified by them and does what she believes is right, accepting responsability for her actions. She's psychologicaly strong and her distant exterior is mostly due to her professional demeanor.

Bastila, on the other hand, is full of self-doubt and too dependent on the guidance of others. She's riddled with fear of herself, and paralyzed by the thought that she might fail and fall to the dark
side. She acts according not to her conscience but to what she believes the masters would approve  She's psychologicaly quite frail and her distant demeanor stems from an attempt to bury her emotions, instead of trying to understand and control them.

At least, that's how I see them. And it actually took Miranda for me to realize how deeply flawed Bastila's personality is in certain aspects.

Well thats you, to me Miri is pretty much Bastila for ME. Thats why I love her character so much. Plus look at that list. There is too much similarties.

As I said, to me the similarities in the list you posted are similarities in circumstances of their lives, not similarities in their personalities, which to me are quite dissimilar.

[Jediknight120]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Good points. I support this logic. I also don't see how any of his comments could be taken to "heavily imply" they had sex. Or even subtly imply it. If we were reading that far into things then we could say some of TIM or Miranda's comments implied that they did the dirty dirty.

Sidenote: Am I the only one who really loves how Miranda says Jacob's name? Especially at the "ah, Jacob" part?

You're not.

I actually think it's really interesting to compare Miranda and Jack when it comes to how they deal with childhood trauma. Neither one has had any meaningful relationships in their adult lives. Jack, for lack of a better term, becomes a sociopath. She approaches everything with a "devil may care" attitude, so she runs around killing, causing mayhem, screwing all kinds of people, etc. Miranda goes the opposite direction and basically closes herself off from everyone, puts up a facade (and I'm convinced that her ice queen routine is just that, a facade, and not her actual personality), etc.

[kraidy1117]

Vyndael wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Vyndael wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Vyndael wrote...

Flashy91 wrote...

GAHHAAHAHH! Stop making me wanna go play KoToR!
Oh *Waves* Hi everyone!

Hey Flashy! I'm tempted to go play KOTOR now too 

and tease Bastila?

You know it.Bastila Shan: On which planet were you born?Revan: Kashyyyk. I'm a Wookiee...can't you tell?Bastila Shan: What is your background?Revan: I'm a Hutt in human form planning to overthrow the Republic.Bastilla Shan: How old are you?Revan: 3012. Healthy living, you know.Bastila Shan: I see you intend to be childish about this.[/list]

LOL it's fun to tease her when she says she has feelings for you. Ah the good times.

One of my favorites Revan: You have something you want to ask me?Bastila Shan: I do. How did you know?Revan: Well...your face is all scrunched up like a kinrath pup.Bastila Shan: A... a kinrath pup?! It most certainly is not! I am a Jedi, remember? I have far too much mental discipline to reveal what goes on inside my mind with such obvious physical clues. My thoughts remain hidden, including whatever my feelings are for you. Uh, I mean whatever I feel *about* you… uh, I mean whatever I *think* about you.Revan: You’re so cute when you’re embarrassed.Bastila Shan: I, that is, you… why must you be so positively infuriating?![/list]

LOL, well Revan is right about her being cute...

[kraidy1117]

Jediknight120 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Good points. I support this logic. I also don't see how any of his comments could be taken to "heavily imply" they had sex. Or even subtly imply it. If we were reading that far into things then we could say some of TIM or Miranda's comments implied that they did the dirty dirty.

Sidenote: Am I the only one who really loves how Miranda says Jacob's name? Especially at the "ah, Jacob" part?

You're not.

I actually think it's really interesting to compare Miranda and Jack when it comes to how they deal with childhood trauma. Neither one has had any meaningful relationships in their adult lives. Jack, for lack of a better term, becomes a sociopath. She approaches everything with a "devil may care" attitude, so she runs around killing, causing mayhem, screwing all kinds of people, etc. Miranda goes the opposite direction and basically closes herself off from everyone, puts up a facade (and I'm convinced that her ice queen routine is just that, a facade, and not her actual personality), etc.

Miri was not tortured tho and injected with so much drugs it's not even funny. Jack in my mind has the right to act like she is and the fact that she is dying just adds more to her character.

[Melra]

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?

[kraidy1117]

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?

No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

[MegWithAMouth]

kraidy1117 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

"Real close, then far apart" only suggests to me that they had a thing for each other, but something happened that made Miranda or Jacob or both think otherwise. It's not enough to suggest "sex" to me, or at all, and I think their separation may be connected to Miranda and Jacob's mission with Ish. You find this out if you bring Jacob with you when you talk to Ish. I think Jacob almost died in the mission. So maybe the end result of that mission led to Miranda and Jacob coming to the consensus that they weren't right for each other.

Good points. I support this logic. I also don't see how any of his comments could be taken to "heavily imply" they had sex. Or even subtly imply it. If we were reading that far into things then we could say some of TIM or Miranda's comments implied that they did the dirty dirty.

Sidenote: Am I the only one who really loves how Miranda says Jacob's name? Especially at the "ah, Jacob" part?

Then why does he get pissed off at you if you ask him? Plus if you where male and a woman like Miri came up to you with a party drink, you are telling me you would not have sex? They went through hell in that mission and she had feelings for Jacob. Maybe it's just because I played Galaxy and thats what I think >_>

This might be hard to comprehend for males, but just because a woman likes someone and brings him celebratory alcohol after going through something as intense as what they went through, doesn't mean she wants to have sex with him. And even if she did, it doesn't mean she would.

The way I saw it, he got pissed off because a) it's not really Shepard's business and he got shot down while she's showing more of an  interest in him than she ever did for Jacob.

I'm not saying there was never anything between them. I believe they probably did develop some sort of a relationship beyond friends, but did either of them act on it? And did they take it to the bedroom? I just don't see it. Miranda was and is Jacob's boss after all and she takes her responsibilites very seriously. She wouldn't just jump into bed with a subordinate because it suits her.

That's just my opinion though. If believing they had sex makes the game better or more real for you then don't let me stop you.

[kraidy1117]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

redBadger14 wrote...

"Real close, then far apart" only suggests to me that they had a thing for each other, but something happened that made Miranda or Jacob or both think otherwise. It's not enough to suggest "sex" to me, or at all, and I think their separation may be connected to Miranda and Jacob's mission with Ish. You find this out if you bring Jacob with you when you talk to Ish. I think Jacob almost died in the mission. So maybe the end result of that mission led to Miranda and Jacob coming to the consensus that they weren't right for each other.

Good points. I support this logic. I also don't see how any of his comments could be taken to "heavily imply" they had sex. Or even subtly imply it. If we were reading that far into things then we could say some of TIM or Miranda's comments implied that they did the dirty dirty.

Sidenote: Am I the only one who really loves how Miranda says Jacob's name? Especially at the "ah, Jacob" part?

Then why does he get pissed off at you if you ask him? Plus if you where male and a woman like Miri came up to you with a party drink, you are telling me you would not have sex? They went through hell in that mission and she had feelings for Jacob. Maybe it's just because I played Galaxy and thats what I think >_>

This might be hard to comprehend for males, but just because a woman likes someone and brings him celebratory alcohol after going through something as intense as what they went through, doesn't mean she wants to have sex with him. And even if she did, it doesn't mean she would.

The way I saw it, he got pissed off because a) it's not really Shepard's business and he got shot down while she's showing more of an  interest in him than she ever did for Jacob.

I'm not saying there was never anything between them. I believe they probably did develop some sort of a relationship beyond friends, but did either of them act on it? And did they take it to the bedroom? I just don't see it. Miranda was and is Jacob's boss after all and she takes her responsibilites very seriously. She wouldn't just jump into bed with a subordinate because it suits her.

That's just my opinion though. If believing they had sex makes the game better or more real for you then don't let me stop you.

I don't beleive it makes the game better or real >_> Just saying I think they had sex just because of how they talked to each other in ME galaxy, and they went through hell. It's just me, all I know he is  bad in bed LI Fiona Lee rather have Kaidan back

Modifié par kraidy1117, 07 mars 2010 - 09:27 .

[Melra]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?

No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

Ooh, well. She never mentioned it to me! Though I only talk to her 3-4 times during on playthrough. Anyway time to head to sleep. Nightie folks! 

[MegWithAMouth]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?

No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

How do you know that?

[Jediknight120]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Miri was not tortured tho and injected with so much drugs it's not even funny. Jack in my mind has the right to act like she is and the fact that she is dying just adds more to her character.

Oh yeah, wasn't trying to necessarily equate their experiences. I think the nature of what they went through contributed to how they cope - Jack was basically broken, while Miri herself said her father hurt her, but didn't break her.

[kraidy1117]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?

No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

How do you know that?

When you upgrade her implants, if you read the description it says her body is dying.