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MegWithAMouth wrote...
This might be hard to comprehend for males, but just because a woman likes someone and brings him celebratory alcohol after going through something as intense as what they went through, doesn't mean she wants to have sex with him. And even if she did, it doesn't mean she would.



WHAT? My world falls apart...:o

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*sigh* I've done all the missions and there is nothing left to do except wait for DLC/. When is that new ship thingy supposed to come out? Or has it already?

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pyro_technician wrote...

*sigh* I've done all the missions and there is nothing left to do except wait for DLC/. When is that new ship thingy supposed to come out? Or has it already?


Firewalker comes out at the end of March and Bioware will be showing a new add-on at GDC. Most likely will be the thief, the add-on Christina said would make female Shepards very happy or the Liara add-on.

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kraidy1117 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?


No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

How do you know that?


When you upgrade her implants, if you read the description it says her body is dying.

Neural degeneration I think.  Basically her brain and central nervous system is decaying and breaking down slowly.

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MegWithAMouth wrote...


This might be hard to comprehend for males, but just because a woman likes someone and brings him celebratory alcohol after going through something as intense as what they went through, doesn't mean she wants to have sex with him. And even if she did, it doesn't mean she would.

The way I saw it, he got pissed off because a) it's not really Shepard's business and B) he got shot down while she's showing more of an  interest in him than she ever did for Jacob.

I'm not saying there was never anything between them. I believe they probably did develop some sort of a relationship beyond friends, but did either of them act on it? And did they take it to the bedroom? I just don't see it. Miranda was and is Jacob's boss after all and she takes her responsibilites very seriously. She wouldn't just jump into bed with a subordinate because it suits her.

That's just my opinion though. If believing they had sex makes the game better or more real for you then don't let me stop you.


I agree I dont know why people think they had sex... males can be just friends with a female. It is possible maybe Jacob wanted to be more than friends and then got shot down... thats how I see it.

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DarthReavus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?


No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

How do you know that?


When you upgrade her implants, if you read the description it says her body is dying.

Neural degeneration I think.  Basically her brain and central nervous system is decaying and breaking down slowly.


Which means she is dying.....

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kraidy1117 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?


No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

How do you know that?


When you upgrade her implants, if you read the description it says her body is dying.

Neural degeneration I think.  Basically her brain and central nervous system is decaying and breaking down slowly.


Which means she is dying.....

I wasn't arguing that, I was just saying what the exact problem was...

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Wait Jack's dying....

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DarthReavus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?


No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

How do you know that?


When you upgrade her implants, if you read the description it says her body is dying.

Neural degeneration I think.  Basically her brain and central nervous system is decaying and breaking down slowly.


Which means she is dying.....

I wasn't arguing that, I was just saying what the exact problem was...


Oh I thought you where :pinched:

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firecleaner wrote...

Wait Jack's dying....


Yes, her and Thane will have sad endings.

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Jediknight120 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Good points. I support this logic. I also don't see how any of his comments could be taken to "heavily imply" they had sex. Or even subtly imply it. If we were reading that far into things then we could say some of TIM or Miranda's comments implied that they did the dirty dirty.

Sidenote: Am I the only one who really loves how Miranda says Jacob's name? Especially at the "ah, Jacob" part?


You're not. ;)

I actually think it's really interesting to compare Miranda and Jack when it comes to how they deal with childhood trauma. Neither one has had any meaningful relationships in their adult lives. Jack, for lack of a better term, becomes a sociopath. She approaches everything with a "devil may care" attitude, so she runs around killing, causing mayhem, screwing all kinds of people, etc. Miranda goes the opposite direction and basically closes herself off from everyone, puts up a facade (and I'm convinced that her ice queen routine is just that, a facade, and not her actual personality), etc.

I really want to elaborate on this, but I feel like you've pretty much said everything already. I'm not sure I could add anything insightful at this point. So basically QFT.

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Miri pics or GTFO!

jk hiya Mav :wizard:

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DarthReavus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?


No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

How do you know that?


When you upgrade her implants, if you read the description it says her body is dying.

Neural degeneration I think.  Basically her brain and central nervous system is decaying and breaking down slowly.

Oh, I don't remember reading that. Probably because I play on an SDTV and therefore try to read as little as possible.

Thanks for pointing that out though. I wonder why that hasn't been made a bigger deal?

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@Meg - I think Thane's death may be more imminent than Jack's as humans still have huge life expectancies in the ME universe anyway, plus we do not know the extent of the degeneration either so Jack may only be getting 1 or 2 years taken off.

Edit: BTW nice "Stop Smiling Dammit" sig bar, I kept trying to make one but I fail at stuff like thatImage IPB

Modifié par Flashy91, 07 mars 2010 - 09:53 .


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MegWithAMouth wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Melrache wrote...

What... Jack dies, even if she lives through the mission?


No she is dying like Thane. Her implants are causing her body to die. She has longer to go then Thane but she will die in a couple of years.

How do you know that?


When you upgrade her implants, if you read the description it says her body is dying.

Neural degeneration I think.  Basically her brain and central nervous system is decaying and breaking down slowly.

Oh, I don't remember reading that. Probably because I play on an SDTV and therefore try to read as little as possible.

Thanks for pointing that out though. I wonder why that hasn't been made a bigger deal?

I bet not too many have noticed it.  It's only mentioned in one line and that's when she gives you the option to research an upgrade to her biotic damage.  I'm sure very few people read the flavour text for the upgrades so they'd miss it.

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Flashy91 wrote...

@Meg - I think Thane's death may be more imminent than Jack's as humans still have huge life expectancies in the ME universe anyway, plus we do not know the extent of the degeneration either so Jack may only be getting 1 or 2 years taken off.

Edit: BTW nice "Stop Smiling Dammit" sig bar, I kept trying to make one but I fail at stuff like thatImage IPB

Yeah, that makes sense I guess. I'm still surprised Jack fans haven't rallied, even if she doesn't have as many as the Talimob. After all, if Miranda's life were being shortened by as much as a week I'm sure we all would have protested and petitioned it to hell.

And thanks. I suck at making them, but eventually I got this. I was going to post it to be put on the OP, but it's not very good so I decided against it, lol.

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MegWithAMouth wrote...

Flashy91 wrote...

@Meg - I think Thane's death may be more imminent than Jack's as humans still have huge life expectancies in the ME universe anyway, plus we do not know the extent of the degeneration either so Jack may only be getting 1 or 2 years taken off.

Edit: BTW nice "Stop Smiling Dammit" sig bar, I kept trying to make one but I fail at stuff like thatImage IPB

Yeah, that makes sense I guess. I'm still surprised Jack fans haven't rallied, even if she doesn't have as many as the Talimob. After all, if Miranda's life were being shortened by as much as a week I'm sure we all would have protested and petitioned it to hell.

And thanks. I suck at making them, but eventually I got this. I was going to post it to be put on the OP, but it's not very good so I decided against it, lol.

We'd all have found a way to get to Canada and razed the BioWare offices to the ground...:devil:

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@Darth: True. Especially with how frakking hard text is to read without a HDTV. You'd think at least a few people would have made some noise about it though.

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Why not Meg....as good as any of the others...should give yoursekf more credit :)



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MegWithAMouth wrote...

Yeah, that makes sense I guess. I'm still surprised Jack fans haven't rallied, even if she doesn't have as many as the Talimob. After all, if Miranda's life were being shortened by as much as a week I'm sure we all would have protested and petitioned it to hell.

And thanks. I suck at making them, but eventually I got this. I was going to post it to be put on the OP, but it's not very good so I decided against it, lol.


You mean like so?
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firecleaner wrote...
I agree I dont know why people think they had sex... males can be just friends with a female. It is possible maybe Jacob wanted to be more than friends and then got shot down... thats how I see it.


I agree with you firecleaner - however, some women of my acquaintance don't believe that men and women can be just friends.
It's odd.

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MegWithAMouth wrote...

@Darth: True. Especially with how frakking hard text is to read without a HDTV. You'd think at least a few people would have made some noise about it though.


Their was an article about it... but I assume most  360 players own a HDTV so dont care... You know most people dont care till something affects them personally.

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Prudii Aden wrote...

firecleaner wrote...
I agree I dont know why people think they had sex... males can be just friends with a female. It is possible maybe Jacob wanted to be more than friends and then got shot down... thats how I see it.


I agree with you firecleaner - however, some women of my acquaintance don't believe that men and women can be just friends.
It's odd.


Maybe they dont know men who are mature enough... I dont know, I do know that it takes alot of self-control and maturity to keep some people in the friend-zone

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@Mav: Lol. No, I guess not. Dammit. I can never stay mad at you!



@Flashy: Lol. Exactly!



I actually posted in the Jack thread to get their thoughts on the matter (this is completely OT but I'll find a way to tie it in to Miranda). This is what they replied:



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Ya we've discussed this a few times and most people believe that all biotics suffer from some type of neural degeneration, and it generally leads to a decrease in their biotic abilities. But with Jack her biotics are actually increasing. It's normal for all biotics. So I don't think it's anyting to worry about, it's probably a very late long term problem.




That makes me feel better about Jack's return personally, though I must have glossed over the part about all biotics having neural degeneration.



This brings me to my next question. I wonder if Miranda's degeneration is also increased at all because of how powerful her father made her biotics? Granted, they aren't comparable to Jack or Samara's, but she is definitely more than average in that regard. I also wonder if the fact that her biotics were artificially implanted in her will affect her degeneration at all?