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[Andysilv]

OT: Is my iPod browser screwed up or have the boards gone to pot? A lot of letters have been replaced by numbers for me, the Home button at the top for example is written as h0m3...bizarre.

EDIT: Fixed. Turns out somehow I'd changed the language at the bottom right of the screen to 1337. Funnily enough it was like it on my PC and iPod. A glitch I imagine.

Modifié par andysilv87, 21 février 2010 - 04:17 .

[KalenNighteyes]

Morning all. Production on my fan fic shall begin after I take care of a few things here. If you are lucky I might post an entire chapter today

[Rathias0114]

KalenNighteyes wrote...

Morning all. Production on my fan fic shall begin after I take care of a few things here. If you are lucky I might post an entire chapter today

Looking forward to it! Good luck!

[Andysilv]

Looking forward to it Kalen.

[ToshiStation38]

Good morning everbody! I'll just reply to some stuff I missed.

Ieldra2 wrote...

Rathias0114 wrote...

I agree - the whole sex before the end of the world thing is getting kind've old. Hopefully it will be rectified in the next installment.

So, where would you put the scene? Because I like that there are sex scenes, not having them would seem a bit implausible (except for interspecies romances, of course). Perhaps, an option to delay it until after the final battle?

I would put the scene afterwards. I would be very happy if it played out like this: Shepard walks into Miranda's office, she starts to say her post-game dialogue about destroying/keeping the base, and I'm presented with a Paragon interrupt to kiss her. That would be perfect to me.


Honestly, I just don't think the sex scene is necessary. The "don't die on me, damn it" scene is much more romantic and meaningful.

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

ToshiStation38 wrote...

Hey! I'm not trying to break her heart! I just think the whole Miranda romance plot might be more fulfilling if I stretch it across both games. I'm trying to choose the option that suggests that Shepard is interested, but wants to wait for a bit.

I've pretty much decided this what I'm going to do. If Bioware doesn't address this path you can take, I will be quite disappointed.

I don't know Toshi. I get that streching it out a bit might be better, but just because you're already in a relationship doesn't mean it can't develop in a meaningful way. I actually think it's the opposite, it's when you're in one that it starts to develop.

The problem is that Bioware treats romance in the game as having the start of the romantic relationship (love scene), the moment where they commit themselves to each other, be the endgame of that subplot. After that, when much more could be developed, it stops and aside from cuddling, there's nothing else to do.

Yeah, I can understand that. What I'm taking about is mainly linked to roleplaying and what my Shepard would do, so it's not like I'm saying this outcome would be universally better. It would probably be worse for some peoples' Shepards. The thing is, my Shepard is very guarded emotionally. It's going to take him some time to really open himself up to Miranda, even if he does love her.

And I'm sure the romance will be fulfilling the way Bioware kind of intended it to be played. I'm taking a pretty big gamble here with this decision, because it's possible Miranda will just act like there was never anything between us. Though that wouldn't be completely bad, because I could just interpret it as her putting on an act. This is the course of action I'm going to be taken, though. As much as I like Miranda, I'm not going to sacrifice roleplaying. Sometimes I almost forget there's more to this trilogy than Miranda.

Modifié par ToshiStation38, 21 février 2010 - 04:25 .

[firecleaner]

@ Kalen



Good to hear.



@ Mavi



Did you sleep? You were on when I went to bed an now your on again.

[Andysilv]

DarthReavus wrote...

I think it's time to bring out the big guns, specifically the Peacemaker...

You can always count on the...

[Rathias0114]

@Toshi - I disagree about it being necessary. For some people, sex isn't just a physical indulgement. There are people (like myself, and my Shepard) who view sex as an emotional thing. The full expression of just how much one cares about another individual.



Meh Shep isn't a playah, yo.

[Ieldra]

ToshiStation38 wrote...

Good morning everbody! I'll just reply to some stuff I missed.

Ieldra2 wrote...

Rathias0114 wrote...

I agree - the whole sex before the end of the world thing is getting kind've old. Hopefully it will be rectified in the next installment.

So, where would you put the scene? Because I like that there are sex scenes, not having them would seem a bit implausible (except for interspecies romances, of course). Perhaps, an option to delay it until after the final battle?

I would put the scene afterwards. I would be very happy if it played out like this: Shepard walks into Miranda's office, she starts to say her post-game dialogue about destroying/keeping the base, and I'm presented with a Paragon interrupt to kiss her. That would be perfect to me.

Honestly, I just don't think the sex scene is necessary. The "don't die on me, damn it" scene is much more romantic and meaningful.

I have to say, the way it's done now works better for me. Before the final battle, there's high tension in the plot *and* in the personal relationship. Afterwards, relaxation - as in the rest-on-bed-together scene. It may be cliché, but it does fit very well. I also think it would all be less complete without the sex scene. But yes, an option to have another kind of scene instead would be nice for people who imagine their Shepards differently.

[Andysilv]

An alternative to the sex scene would have been interesting. I think post-sex dialogue would've been a nice addition too.

[Ieldra]

ToshiStation38 wrote...
As much as I like Miranda, I'm not going to sacrifice roleplaying.

You've said you imagine your Shepard as emotionally guarded. OK so far, but I can very much imagine someone throwing all ingrained caution to the wind when he meets Miranda. It's been known to happen, you know It can be good roleplaying either way.

@Sleepy Buddha:
I agree with you. I have always considered the sex scene the point where the relationship changes from "friends, maybe lifelong, but "just" friends" to something more intimate, more deeply personal involving sharing emotions that others don't get to see, a level of trust not given to anyone else. Because of that it's fitting for me, and I'd like to be able to build on that foundation in ME3.  

Modifié par Ieldra2, 21 février 2010 - 04:47 .

[ToshiStation38]

Rathias0114 wrote...

@Toshi - I disagree about it being necessary. For some people, sex isn't just a physical indulgement. There are people (like myself, and my Shepard) who view sex as an emotional thing. The full expression of just how much one cares about another individual.

Meh Shep isn't a playah, yo.

Yeah, I do think it's meaningful, but I don't think it's necessary for me, personally. The sexual act should be an expression of love, but it's kind of been trivialized by modern society.

Ieldra2 wrote...

I have to say, the way it's done now
works better for me. Before the final battle, there's high tension in
the plot *and* in the personal relationship. Afterwards, relaxation -
as in the rest-on-bed-together scene. It may be cliché, but it does fit
very well. I also think it would all be less complete without the sex
scene. But yes, an option to have another kind of scene instead would
be nice for people who imagine their Shepards differently.

Yes, incomplete is what I'm going for. I just like the fact that it sort of gives a different flavor to the relationship.

[jtav]

I've been playing around with a few plot bunnies and I wonder if there'd be any interest in a story where Miranda discovers she unknowingly set Akuze in motion and she and a Sole Survivor Shep deal with the fallout. Probably more unspoken sexual tension than romance.



It's either that or a creepy Tali/Shepard story that'll probably get me flamed.

[Andysilv]

jtav wrote...

I've been playing around with a few plot bunnies and I wonder if there'd be any interest in a story where Miranda discovers she unknowingly set Akuze in motion and she and a Sole Survivor Shep deal with the fallout. Probably more unspoken sexual tension than romance.

Personally I think that would be very interesting.

[firecleaner]

andysilv87 wrote...

jtav wrote...

I've been playing around with a few plot bunnies and I wonder if there'd be any interest in a story where Miranda discovers she unknowingly set Akuze in motion and she and a Sole Survivor Shep deal with the fallout. Probably more unspoken sexual tension than romance.

Personally I think that would be very interesting.

x2

We dont want you to get flamed

[ToshiStation38]

Ieldra2 wrote...

ToshiStation38 wrote...
As much as I like Miranda, I'm not going to sacrifice roleplaying.

You've
said you imagine your Shepard as emotionally guarded. OK so far, but I
can very much imagine someone throwing all ingrained caution to the
wind when he meets Miranda. It's been known to happen, you know It
can be good roleplaying either way.

I'm thinking this post may have been tongue-in-cheek, so forgive me if I reply to seriously.

He is throwing a lot of his caution out the window. I just don't think he's prepared to go all the way. One thing I find kind of funny about this romance (not funny as in poorly written, but funny in the truest sense) is how Miranda turns Shepard down several times, saying the mission is too important and that it's a bad idea, but Shepard's all like "I DON'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!". My Shepard would kind of back off if Miranda said that to him. He's not good at this emotion connection stuff, but he has the necessary willpower to keep a lid on it.

For a little while, anyways.

[Ieldra]

Maviarab wrote...

I'll post this while I have a moment

Why have all these Yvonne pictures to come from "Chuck"? Yvonne is great, but I've discovered I almost can't stand "Chuck". Maybe it gets better after the first two episodes, but so far it's been not my cup of tea.

[Ieldra]

ToshiStation38 wrote...
Yeah, I do think it's meaningful, but I don't think it's necessary for me, personally. The sexual act should be an expression of love, but it's kind of been trivialized by modern society.

Indeed. It seems people can't deal reasonably with sex. Demonization in one culture or time, trivialization in the next. But I'd rather have the latter - even if you consider sex just a pleasant R&R option, it's a lot healthier than many alternatives I can imagine. I would like future human society to have a healthier attitude - even if ME2 clearly shows it has some way to go - and this is why I see my Shepard admitting his passion - emotional and physical - to himself and to Miranda more easily.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 21 février 2010 - 05:09 .

[KalenNighteyes]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

I'll post this while I have a moment

Why have all these Yvonne pictures to come from "Chuck"? Yvonne is great, but I've discovered I almost can't stand "Chuck". Maybe it gets better after the first two episodes, but so far it's been not my cup of tea.

Because, as far as I know, Chuck is the only thing she has been in. There are lots of modeling pictures of her too, but a majority of her work is from Chuck. And honestly Chuck is a good show. At first I didn't think I'd like it that much but I have really begun enjoying it. Though I hate that Chuck and Sarah don't just be together It's that kind of relationship where you want them to be together but the show's writers aren't going to do it until the time is right.

Kind of like Bones. You want Booth and Bones to get together, but that is what makes their chemistry great!

[BlackFox26]

All i gotta say.

"she a sexy chick she a sexy chick she a sexy chick"

"damm girl"

[Ieldra]

KalenNighteyes wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Maviarab wrote...

I'll post this while I have a moment

Why have all these Yvonne pictures to come from "Chuck"? Yvonne is great, but I've discovered I almost can't stand "Chuck". Maybe it gets better after the first two episodes, but so far it's been not my cup of tea.

Because, as far as I know, Chuck is the only thing she has been in. There are lots of modeling pictures of her too, but a majority of her work is from Chuck. And honestly Chuck is a good show. At first I didn't think I'd like it that much but I have really begun enjoying it.

I don't know if I'll have the patience to get to the parts I can enjoy, should there be any - if it keeps showing people stumbling from one embarassing scene into the next, then it's certainly not for me. But I do hope that between "Chuck" and ME2 her popularity has risen so much she's going to make other stuff. 

[Andysilv]

I'm pretty sure Yvonne won't struggle for work after Chuck. Beautiful AND talented is quite the combination I'd say. That's why I really hope BioWare have got her contract all tied up for ME3. It would be awful if they had to replace Yvonne.