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[jtav]

For a reason that I don't remember, I initially thought there would be two loyalty missions per each squad member. So, if you could design a second loyalty mission for Miranda, what would it be about? I'd like her forced to confront some Cerberus atrocity she had an incidental hand in, something that forces her to grapple with the organization's dark side and smooth the way for her actions during the endgame.

[Errol Dnamyx]

You should settle only for the best smart phone~

Modifié par Errol Dnamyx, 11 mars 2010 - 01:36 .

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

For a reason that I don't remember, I initially thought there would be two loyalty missions per each squad member. So, if you could design a second loyalty mission for Miranda, what would it be about? I'd like her forced to confront some Cerberus atrocity she had an incidental hand in, something that forces her to grapple with the organization's dark side and smooth the way for her actions during the endgame.

During which endgame? Does she also resign if you keep the base? I didn't have her in my squad in that playthrough, and I'm not quite there in my current one.

As for another loyalty mission, I think it would be interesting to expand on Jack's loyalty mission. When taking Miranda with you, she is quite horrified at what happened, but still her belief in Cerberus (and ours, if we want) is supported by the facts you discover - it seems to have been a rogue cell after all. Discovering that this "discovery" was an elaborate setup to fool Shepard and Miranda, that would be interesting. Or something like it.

[Rathias0114]

I think a lot of people might go with the idea of dealing with her father as a possible "second" loyalty mission - seeing as, well, we all want to see who he is and why he does what he does.



Personally, I'd rather see one where she is presented the hard facts on some Cerberus mission that tortured humans and aliens for no apparent reason other than to test how far a species can be pushed psychologically before breaking. Something that would cause her to break down and realize that all her work, trust, and loyalty to Cerberus was, all in all, misplaced.

[Guardian295]

Rathias0114 wrote...

I think a lot of people might go with the idea of dealing with her father as a possible "second" loyalty mission - seeing as, well, we all want to see who he is and why he does what he does.

Personally, I'd rather see one where she is presented the hard facts on some Cerberus mission that tortured humans and aliens for no apparent reason other than to test how far a species can be pushed psychologically before breaking. Something that would cause her to break down and realize that all her work, trust, and loyalty to Cerberus was, all in all, misplaced.

I doubt we will see anything of her father till ME3

[Ieldra]

Rathias0114 wrote...
Personally, I'd rather see one where she is presented the hard facts on some Cerberus mission that tortured humans and aliens for no apparent reason other than to test how far a species can be pushed psychologically before breaking. Something that would cause her to break down and realize that all her work, trust, and loyalty to Cerberus was, all in all, misplaced.

The question is: was it really misplaced? Most seem to think so, but I'm not so sure. After all, TIM seems to be right in one thing: nobody else seems to do anything for the human colonies. I think one of the most interesting things is that there really is come ambiguity about Cerberus, that there seem to be some things they really do right and some where they go off to where no sane human would want to follow. I would not like it if that ambiguity was completely lost.

[Valmy]

Guardian295 wrote...
I doubt we will see anything of her father till ME3

I will be surprised if we ever see anything of that plot really besides maybe having it mentioned once.

If we actually do get a big Orianna/Miranda's Father type thing I will be overjoyed but I seriously doubt that many resources are going to be further committed to this story with everything else going on.

[Valmy]

Rathias0114 wrote...

Personally, I'd rather see one where she is presented the hard facts on some Cerberus mission that tortured humans and aliens for no apparent reason other than to test how far a species can be pushed psychologically before breaking. Something that would cause her to break down and realize that all her work, trust, and loyalty to Cerberus was, all in all, misplaced.

I do not see why this is necessary or develops the character.  At this point she already has become disillusioned even if you decide to keep the base.  So now she is going to become more disillusioned?

[Guardian295]

Valmy wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...
I doubt we will see anything of her father till ME3

I will be surprised if we ever see anything of that plot really besides maybe having it mentioned once.

If we actually do get a big Orianna/Miranda's Father type thing I will be overjoyed but I seriously doubt that many resources are going to be further committed to this story with everything else going on.

Why not everyone in ME2 got one mission dedicated to them

[Valmy]

Guardian295 wrote...
Why not everyone in ME2 got one mission dedicated to them

Because the focus on ME2 was on your squad and gaining their loyalty for the suicide mission.  I don't think they will do that again in ME3 and it will be structured differently.

I mean think about it, the guy who killed off most of his squad in ME3 would be missing out on dozens of missions and most of the game?  Unlikely.

I mean, don't get me wrong, I would like for it to continue with lots of squad member developement and personal plots but I think the series is going to go in another direction for several reasons.

Now if they do do as rumored and have bridging x-pacs for each squad member...well now we could see something of interest with Miranda and that plot happening there.

[Valmy]

Ieldra2 wrote...
The question is: was it really misplaced? Most seem to think so, but I'm not so sure. After all, TIM seems to be right in one thing: nobody else seems to do anything for the human colonies. I think one of the most interesting things is that there really is come ambiguity about Cerberus, that there seem to be some things they really do right and some where they go off to where no sane human would want to follow. I would not like it if that ambiguity was completely lost.

I think that has been communicated very effectively in ME1 and ME2 plots put together.

Now the novels paint Cerberus as Stalin and Hitler put together but that is something else entirely.

[Valmy]

Man...I feel like I killed the thread.

[Guardian295]

**eyes glaze over**
**in deep dark gravely voice**
I have come and you will fall to your knees in reverence to me
You will beg for mercy as you are tormented for my amusement
and in the end I will grant you the peace….
….. in death
**continuous evil laughter**
 
……
 
**shakes head**
**speaks in normal voice**
Um…
**looks around confused**
where did I go just now?

[DarthReavus]

Guardian295 wrote...

**eyes glaze over**
**in deep dark gravely voice**
I have come and you will fall to your knees in reverence to me
You will beg for mercy as you are tormented for my amusement
and in the end I will grant you the peace….
….. in death
**continuous evil laughter**
 
……
 
**shakes head**
**speaks in normal voice**
Um…
**looks around confused**
where did I go just now?

I thought it would be fun to possess you...

[Guardian295]

DarthReavus wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

**eyes glaze over**
**in deep dark gravely voice**
I have come and you will fall to your knees in reverence to me
You will beg for mercy as you are tormented for my amusement
and in the end I will grant you the peace….
….. in death
**continuous evil laughter**
 
……
 
**shakes head**
**speaks in normal voice**
Um…
**looks around confused**
where did I go just now?

I thought it would be fun to possess you...

Oh
Next time the least you could do is buy me dinner first

[Ieldra]

Valmy wrote...

Man...I feel like I killed the thread.

Why that? Because nothing's been posted for 3 minutes? Guess how I felt earlier, when nothing happened for 30 minutes after one of my posts.

[DarthReavus]

Now where the hell is the fun in taking over someone's body if you have buy dinner first? Sheesh!

[Valmy]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Man...I feel like I killed the thread.

Why that? Because nothing's been posted for 3 minutes? Guess how I felt earlier, when nothing happened for 30 minutes after one of my posts.

There had been one non-me post in the previous 40 minutes.

Sorry I will have to adjust with this thread not moving along at the usual clip.

[Guardian295]

DarthReavus wrote...

Now where the hell is the fun in taking over someone's body if you have buy dinner first? Sheesh!

Just a thought
You didn't do anything while you where in there did you

Modifié par Guardian295, 11 mars 2010 - 02:37 .

[DarthReavus]

Guardian295 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Now where the hell is the fun in taking over someone's body if you have buy dinner first? Sheesh!

Just a thought
You didn't do anything while you where in there did you

Nah don't worry.  All I did was hide the nachos...

[Guardian295]

DarthReavus wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

Now where the hell is the fun in taking over someone's body if you have buy dinner first? Sheesh!

Just a thought
You didn't do anything while you where in there did you

Nah don't worry.  All I did was hide the nachos...

Nachos....
What are nachos?

Modifié par Guardian295, 11 mars 2010 - 02:45 .

[Valmy]

DarthReavus wrote...
Nah don't worry.  All I did was hide the nachos...

YOU EVIL BASTARD!

This one is eternally lost to the dark side.

[DarthReavus]

Valmy wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...
Nah don't worry.  All I did was hide the nachos...

YOU EVIL BASTARD!

This one is eternally lost to the dark side.

And you people only figured this out when?  Just now?  I guess it's true what they say, good IS dumb....

[Guardian295]

Nachos....Wait I remember
Nachos, food, good, corn chips, salsa, cheese, sour cream, very tasty, where did I put
**wanders out of room**

[Ieldra]

Valmy wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Valmy wrote...

Man...I feel like I killed the thread.

Why that? Because nothing's been posted for 3 minutes? Guess how I felt earlier, when nothing happened for 30 minutes after one of my posts.

There had been one non-me post in the previous 40 minutes.

Sorry I will have to adjust with this thread not moving along at the usual clip.

Yes, things are moving more slowly. But that's no indication that there are fewer Miranda fans - it's only that our "Character fan fanaticism index" (1.19, calculated as total thread pages per group member, over all existing threads for the same character) is about half that of the Kaidan and Tali fans (~2.3). I consider that a good thing. But forum life would be still easier as a Thane fan (0.09).