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[Valmy]

kraidy1117 wrote...
I realy hope the last battle between the Reapers give us feelings like that, I realy want to hear Miri say these three words, I love you. It might be out of character but it would make sence in the final battle.

She was all business during the mission.  I guess that is to be expected especially in front of the others.

[Melra]

Valmy wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
I realy hope the last battle between the Reapers give us feelings like that, I realy want to hear Miri say these three words, I love you. It might be out of character but it would make sence in the final battle.

She was all business during the mission.  I guess that is to be expected especially in front of the others.

I was hoping, it was about Bioware cutting possible corners, so they wouldn't have to make special interaction to the suicide mission, for all playthroughs, but in Miri's case that would be plausible explanation as well. :innocent:

[Jediknight120]

Valmy wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...
I realy hope the last battle between the Reapers give us feelings like that, I realy want to hear Miri say these three words, I love you. It might be out of character but it would make sence in the final battle.

She was all business during the mission.  I guess that is to be expected especially in front of the others.

Yeah, I don't think you'll hear her say it in a mission in front of anyone else. Unless it appears that one or the other of them is about to die...

[Sleepy Buddha]

DarthReavus wrote...

I'd say it's something for the endgame definitely.  My thoughts on the issue were more to do during the inevitable romance dialogue during the game.  I'd definitely like to see one of them definitively say it in the endgame though.

IMO, what Miranda did in the endgame perfectly demonstrated how she felt. By her actions (love scene and giving the finger to TIM) she made it clear to Shepard that not only did she want to be with him, but she trusted him above above anyone in the universe, even the person most responsible for protecting herself and her sister from her father. That to me spells love very clearly.

[Ieldra]

Ah, I see all I missed was some DAO exchange while I was busy fighting Collector drones. Some of the best Miranda screenshots can be had during the endgame, and not only for the romance scene.



For the quiz-minded: how often does Joker say "sh*t!" in his mission on the Normandy?

[kraidy1117]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I'd say it's something for the endgame definitely.  My thoughts on the issue were more to do during the inevitable romance dialogue during the game.  I'd definitely like to see one of them definitively say it in the endgame though.

IMO, what Miranda did in the endgame perfectly demonstrated how she felt. By her actions (love scene and giving the finger to TIM) she made it clear to Shepard that not only did she want to be with him, but she trusted him above above anyone in the universe, even the person most responsible for protecting herself and her sister from her father. That to me spells love very clearly.

This, only Shepard can make sure Oriana is safe now, since Miri quit vCerberus I highly doubt TIM will protect Oriana.

[Ieldra]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I'd say it's something for the endgame definitely.  My thoughts on the issue were more to do during the inevitable romance dialogue during the game.  I'd definitely like to see one of them definitively say it in the endgame though.

IMO, what Miranda did in the endgame perfectly demonstrated how she felt. By her actions (love scene and giving the finger to TIM) she made it clear to Shepard that not only did she want to be with him, but she trusted him above above anyone in the universe, even the person most responsible for protecting herself and her sister from her father. That to me spells love very clearly.

QFT! I'd rather have them show their love than say it.

[Valmy]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...
Sorry, but I can only visit the forum on occasion, so it can take a while for me to reply. As I said, I need a smartphone since I'm always going to places with no wifi.

What I mean by empty and meaningless is that I see many people, especially younger generations, constantly saying that to their friends for the most insignificant things, dilluting the meaning of it.

Also, from my experience in relationships and those of people I know, usually it's those that say it the least that feel it the most. A person can say it all they want, if they don't act like it, it's meaningless.

As I said before on this subject, actions speak louder than words, and I feel that showing that feeling somehow, by doing something that demonstrates to the other person how you feel, is much better that saying anything.

Now, I don't know about your case as I don't know you personally. I'm just giving my opinion based on what I've seen and experienced.

I think alot of what you say about the younger people it is exactly because often in fiction it is portrayed as some sort of magical bullet that somehow will make people melt and love you back.  Therefore it is a good thing to whip out from your arsenal.  Saying 'I love you' in real life is seldom some big dramatic thing and it doesn't really work when used as a manipulation.

I think I understand you...I think you underestimate the power of words.  I think it keeps the love on the mind of people and helps it develop to not only do loving things but also say loving things.  Withholding that love in order to make it...more real...or whatever makes no sense to me.  If you withhold it because you don't want to dilute it, it seems like the far bigger danger would then be forgetting that love since you never vocalize it and express it.  I tell my wife I love her almost everyday, because I do with every fiber of my being, and I would be doing that love a great disservice if I did not express it as often as I feel the need to.

But saying 'I love you' is indeed an empty gesture if there is no love present.

[kraidy1117]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Ah, I see all I missed was some DAO exchange while I was busy fighting Collector drones. Some of the best Miranda screenshots can be had during the endgame, and not only for the romance scene.

For the quiz-minded: how often does Joker say "sh*t!" in his mission on the Normandy?

Over ten times at atleast.

[Valmy]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...
IMO, what Miranda did in the endgame perfectly demonstrated how she felt. By her actions (love scene and giving the finger to TIM) she made it clear to Shepard that not only did she want to be with him, but she trusted him above above anyone in the universe, even the person most responsible for protecting herself and her sister from her father. That to me spells love very clearly.

I felt the same way...at least until I discovered she exacts exactly the same way even when you do not romance her.

[Jediknight120]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I'd say it's something for the endgame definitely.  My thoughts on the issue were more to do during the inevitable romance dialogue during the game.  I'd definitely like to see one of them definitively say it in the endgame though.

IMO, what Miranda did in the endgame perfectly demonstrated how she felt. By her actions (love scene and giving the finger to TIM) she made it clear to Shepard that not only did she want to be with him, but she trusted him above above anyone in the universe, even the person most responsible for protecting herself and her sister from her father. That to me spells love very clearly.

QFT! I'd rather have them show their love than say it.

Agreed. Miranda isn't going to get all emotional around anyone other than Shep, IMO. (In my story you'll notice I break her pretty good, but ONLY in front of Shep). When she told the Illusive Man to screw himself I was like "oh yeah, she's MINE!"

[kraidy1117]

Jediknight120 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I'd say it's something for the endgame definitely.  My thoughts on the issue were more to do during the inevitable romance dialogue during the game.  I'd definitely like to see one of them definitively say it in the endgame though.

IMO, what Miranda did in the endgame perfectly demonstrated how she felt. By her actions (love scene and giving the finger to TIM) she made it clear to Shepard that not only did she want to be with him, but she trusted him above above anyone in the universe, even the person most responsible for protecting herself and her sister from her father. That to me spells love very clearly.

QFT! I'd rather have them show their love than say it.

Agreed. Miranda isn't going to get all emotional around anyone other than Shep, IMO. (In my story you'll notice I break her pretty good, but ONLY in front of Shep). When she told the Illusive Man to screw himself I was like "oh yeah, she's MINE!"

The thing is that she does that even if you are not in love with her or even if shes not loyal to you. There needs to be some touching lines for Miri in ME3 that she tells him in ME3. Anything is poseable in ME3, hell the Reapers could win.

[Flashy91]

Sleepy Buddha wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

I'd say it's something for the endgame definitely.  My thoughts on the issue were more to do during the inevitable romance dialogue during the game.  I'd definitely like to see one of them definitively say it in the endgame though.

IMO, what Miranda did in the endgame perfectly demonstrated how she felt. By her actions (love scene and giving the finger to TIM) she made it clear to Shepard that not only did she want to be with him, but she trusted him above above anyone in the universe, even the person most responsible for protecting herself and her sister from her father. That to me spells love very clearly.

QFT, but it would still be nice (For me personally) to hear her say it...

[Jediknight120]

Either way, I think Shepard ends up as the only person Miranda really trusts. Whether as a friend, or as something more, she comes to really respect and trust him.

[kraidy1117]

Jediknight120 wrote...

Either way, I think Shepard ends up as the only person Miranda really trusts. Whether as a friend, or as something more, she comes to really respect and trust him.

Don't you know, she trust Jack

Modifié par kraidy1117, 11 mars 2010 - 06:47 .

[jtav]

Out of curiosity, but would anyone be interested in a story that presents a more "paragon" culmination of the romance? The engine room scene left me unsatisfied, and I'd like to try my hand at a fix once I finish my current story.

[Valmy]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Ah, I see all I missed was some DAO exchange while I was busy fighting Collector drones. Some of the best Miranda screenshots can be had during the endgame, and not only for the romance scene.

For the quiz-minded: how often does Joker say "sh*t!" in his mission on the Normandy?

I agree she gets lots of quality "camera" time during the suicide mission.  She is lovely being all commanding and authoritative.

[kraidy1117]

Valmy wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Ah, I see all I missed was some DAO exchange while I was busy fighting Collector drones. Some of the best Miranda screenshots can be had during the endgame, and not only for the romance scene.

For the quiz-minded: how often does Joker say "sh*t!" in his mission on the Normandy?

I agree she gets lots of quality "camera" time during the suicide mission.  She is lovely being all commanding and authoritative.

Well she is one of the best leaders ever (i trust her and Garrus with my life.

[Valmy]

jtav wrote...

Out of curiosity, but would anyone be interested in a story that presents a more "paragon" culmination of the romance? The engine room scene left me unsatisfied, and I'd like to try my hand at a fix once I finish my current story.

Yes.

I would have liked a nice 'after glow' conversation like we got in ME1 before they went off to fight and possibly die...but hey they had five other romance scenes to do as well.

[Jediknight120]

jtav wrote...

Out of curiosity, but would anyone be interested in a story that presents a more "paragon" culmination of the romance? The engine room scene left me unsatisfied, and I'd like to try my hand at a fix once I finish my current story.

I'd be interested in seeing another take on that for sure.

[kraidy1117]

I wish we could dance with Miri at afterlife, I love Expal 10 ^ ^

[Sleepy Buddha]

Valmy wrote...

Sleepy Buddha wrote...
IMO, what Miranda did in the endgame perfectly demonstrated how she felt. By her actions (love scene and giving the finger to TIM) she made it clear to Shepard that not only did she want to be with him, but she trusted him above above anyone in the universe, even the person most responsible for protecting herself and her sister from her father. That to me spells love very clearly.

I felt the same way...at least until I discovered she exacts exactly the same way even when you do not romance her.

That's why I said it was the combination of both actions (love scene and telling TIM to screw himself), as both are opposite to what she would do and together they have a different meaning than each separately.

Also, I don't think it's farfetched to believe that even if Miranda's not loyal, she would still love Shepard. She would just have a much easier time keeping those feelings in check since they wouldn't have the chance to develop much of a rapport between them.

[The Governator]

I like Miranda a lot. I just wish they made her a little less cold-blooded. She seems a little too ready to kill.



But...I love her veneer of business and professionalism. She does not crack when jack goes ape**** on her in the office. She does not deign to respond to the sophomoric pejoratives that jack spits at her.



Even if jack could kick her butt (I suspect she might be able to do so) I think Miranda would be far cooler by not giving jack the satisfaction of showing pain or defeat.



Props to you guys for picking a cool character.

[Sleepy Buddha]

Valmy wrote...

I agree she gets lots of quality "camera" time during the suicide mission.  She is lovely being all commanding and authoritative.

Hmmm, yes she most definitely is. That's what Miranda's all about.

[Singu]

If I where Shepard and had to pick an XO it would be Miranda. She's proven she can be hard and would be an excellent reality-check for the sometimes very blue-eyed paragon Shepard, and she didn't loose 11 men of her team to some mercs on Omega