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[Commander Raiden]

Does anyone know how exactly to kick off the romance with Miranda? After the loyalty mission she thanks me, we talk about her sis, and if she'll keep in touch, but the conversation doesn't really lead anywhere, or does the "flirting begin" after I've got another mission out the way? i.e Loyalty mission for one of the other crew members....??? On another note I think Miranda is best suited to a Shepherd who is in between, all though it doesn't really matter, she mentally strong-willed and knows what way to go about things..

[Jediknight120]

Commander Raiden wrote...

Does anyone know how exactly to kick off the romance with Miranda? After the loyalty mission she thanks me, we talk about her sis, and if she'll keep in touch, but the conversation doesn't really lead anywhere, or does the "flirting begin" after I've got another mission out the way? i.e Loyalty mission for one of the other crew members....??? On another note I think Miranda is best suited to a Shepherd who is in between, all though it doesn't really matter, she mentally strong-willed and knows what way to go about things..

After you talk about her sister, you need to go do another mission to get to the next dialogue.

[DarthReavus]

Jediknight120 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Do you guys think Miranda is better suited for a renegade or paragon Shep? Or something inbetween? Do you think it matters at all? Do you think Shepard's influence turns her to one side or the other like Bastila in KotOR? Or do you think she ultimately makes her own decisions and chooses her own path?

I have my own opinions on the matter, but I'll wait until some other people have answers before I say anything.

The way I've written her, she's more suited for a paragon Shep. I view her like Bastila in that Shep's influence eventually breaks down her walls. In my mind a renegade Shep pushes her away, and if anything solidifies her barriers. She looks for excuses to not trust people, and Shep has to be pretty damn persistant and understanding to get past that.

I'm too tired to write much else so I'll simply say this, I agree entirely.

ComTrav wrote...

I love this trailer just because it has
Bruce Boxleitner.

Babylon 5 ftw.

*high 5*

[Karstedt]

ComTrav wrote...

I love this trailer just because it has Bruce Boxleitner.

He hasn't done anything but what I like to cal "bad sci-fi" movies in quite a while. Looks like it's just a small part for him though. Trailer looks good though.

[Commander Raiden]

Thanks Jediknight120! much appreciated! I had to backtrack a few missions to get to that point again in the game! I thought, I can't go getting the collectors without romancing Miranda 1st!..lol!

[Jediknight120]

Commander Raiden wrote...

Thanks Jediknight120! much appreciated! I had to backtrack a few missions to get to that point again in the game! I thought, I can't go getting the collectors without romancing Miranda 1st!..lol!

Np, it's worth it, her romance is the best IMHO.

[ComTrav]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Do you guys think Miranda is better suited for a renegade or paragon Shep? Or something inbetween? Do you think it matters at all? Do you think Shepard's influence turns her to one side or the other like Bastila in KotOR? Or do you think she ultimately makes her own decisions and chooses her own path?

I have my own opinions on the matter, but I'll wait until some other people have answers before I say anything.

I think Shepard influences everyone around him, although sometimes is more dramatic or shown more clearly by the game writers. The fact that Shepard is controlled by the player, having feedback for the player's aciton's is rewarding, gives him a lot of extra jam. Some characters will voice their disapproval, though no one ever pulls a Sten "I'm taking command!" moment. (Which made my jaw drop when I saw it.)

Having done this romance as a paragon Shepard, I feel like the story and Miranda's arc works better that way. Miranda's entrance in the game is killing someone in cold blood; she seems distant and clinical. Romancing her as a Paragon, you stress that (1) her attachment to Cerberus is not needed for her to define her self-worth, and (2), her compassion for her sister should be encouraged, and ultimately extended into a more general principle of compassion (culminating in the Collector Base decision--we've discussed in this thread before the implications it could have for her sister, but I personally think it's important that she's putting principle above her personal expediency, here.)

As a renegade, you don't really cause her to grow or change at all. She comes off as a more static character that way IMO.

[MegWithAMouth]

Jediknight120 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Do you guys think Miranda is better suited for a renegade or paragon Shep? Or something inbetween? Do you think it matters at all? Do you think Shepard's influence turns her to one side or the other like Bastila in KotOR? Or do you think she ultimately makes her own decisions and chooses her own path?

I have my own opinions on the matter, but I'll wait until some other people have answers before I say anything.

The way I've written her, she's more suited for a paragon Shep. I view her like Bastila in that Shep's influence eventually breaks down her walls. In my mind a renegade Shep pushes her away, and if anything solidifies her barriers. She looks for excuses to not trust people, and Shep has to be pretty damn persistant and understanding to get past that.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. I definitely think a paragon Shep can break down her barriers like a renegade Shep can't. I also think Badger had a good point when he said a renegade Shep might remind her of her father.  We have no idea what her father is like at this point, so of course that's all speculation, but I could see it.

I think for the most part she chooses her own path, but she's not above being influenced by someone close to her. Especially someone she has so much respect for like Shepard. Miranda's morals are sort of a grey area in my mind, just like Sarah Walker's in Chuck. She'll kill, if necessary. She'll do what it takes to further her goals if she believes them important enough, but even she has her limits. I think a paragon Shep would just help her conscience come into play more often.

[shinobi602]

Wow, I'm astonished Kaidan has so much fan support lol.

[DarthReavus]

shinobi602 wrote...

Wow, I'm astonished Kaidan has so much fan support lol.

Small number of fans, they're just rabid....

[shinobi602]

DarthReavus wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Wow, I'm astonished Kaidan has so much fan support lol.

Small number of fans, they're just rabid....

They're all girls

[MegWithAMouth]

shinobi602 wrote...

Wow, I'm astonished Kaidan has so much fan support lol.

Um... I'm not. Did you see his fanart?

I mean... *ahem* What? Who is this "Kaiden" you speak of? The only people in my galaxy are named Miranda Lawson and *REDACTED* Shepard.

[DarthReavus]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Wow, I'm astonished Kaidan has so much fan support lol.

Um... I'm not. Did you see his fanart?

I mean... *ahem* What? Who is this "Kaiden" you speak of? The only people in my galaxy are named Miranda Lawson and *REDACTED* Shepard.

[Vyndael]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Wow, I'm astonished Kaidan has so much fan support lol.

Um... I'm not. Did you see his fanart?

I mean... *ahem* What? Who is this "Kaiden" you speak of? The only people in my galaxy are named Miranda Lawson and *REDACTED* Shepard.

:blink:

[Jediknight120]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Wow, I'm astonished Kaidan has so much fan support lol.

Um... I'm not. Did you see his fanart?

I mean... *ahem* What? Who is this "Kaiden" you speak of? The only people in my galaxy are named Miranda Lawson and *REDACTED* Shepard.

Oh I don't even want to think about that fanart.

[shinobi602]

Thankfully I have not seen said fanart.

[Markinator_123]

Miranda can fall for any Shepard, but in my opinion she is best for a paragade Shepard. When Miranda killed Wilson in cold blood, my Shepard was not suprised. Why? Because he has done the same thing to Fist, Jeong, Rana, Balak(tortured him too), Charn, and more. In ME2 he did things like set the krogan fire, push the merc out of the window, and other things that may be considered killing someone in cold blood. However, he is quite compassionate towards innocent people and friendly and considerate towards teammates. Therefore, I figure my Shepard and Miranda can go well together because they are not so different but can still help each other.

[DarthReavus]

shinobi602 wrote...

Thankfully I have not seen said fanart.

From the rumours I've heard, pray you never do my friend.


And on that bombshell it's time to go to bed, goodnight!

[SgtPotato]

What fanart?! Show me! I can handle it.

Modifié par SgtPotato, 16 mars 2010 - 09:44 .

[MegWithAMouth]

DarthReavus wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Thankfully I have not seen said fanart.

From the rumours I've heard, pray you never do my friend.


And on that bombshell it's time to go to bed, goodnight!

Oh whatever. It's a shirtless Kaiden. Big deal. We've had worse pics show up here.

[Vyndael]

 What fan art? I just see the photos in the OP. Heh, I randomly clicked on a page and found this.

@Meg: We do?

Modifié par Vyndael, 16 mars 2010 - 09:50 .

[shinobi602]

MegWithAMouth wrote...
Oh whatever. It's a shirtless Kaiden. Big deal. We've had worse pics show up here.

I taste a hint of agitation in your post Meg


Even the mighty Meg can not resist Kaidan's...well...Kaidan

[MegWithAMouth]

Vyndael wrote...

 What fan art? I just see the photos in the OP. Heh, I randomly clicked on a page and found this.

Here's what I was talking about: http://social.biowar...11885/22887.jpg

[SgtPotato]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

shinobi602 wrote...

Thankfully I have not seen said fanart.

From the rumours I've heard, pray you never do my friend.


And on that bombshell it's time to go to bed, goodnight!

Oh whatever. It's a shirtless Kaiden. Big deal. We've had worse pics show up here.

Shirtless Kaiden fanart?

[Jediknight120]

@ SgtPotato - it actually wasn't bad.