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gutty47 wrote...

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It's possible, but you're talking about increasing his life expectancy by 50%. There would have to be one heck of a medical advance. Besides, I find it more interesting and romantic for them to realize this and decide that "it's worth it."

Assuming the cybernetics haven't changed his aging then it would be interesting to see how the relationship would develop... but I think the cybernetics have changed him irrevocably. As has been mentioned earlier, I'm slightly disappointed that the subject of what Shepard is hasn't been touched on. If we take it to extremes the cybernetics could've made Shepard the first immortal being. We just don't know.

I doubt it even machines "die"

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We'll try and keep you informed of any new developments in this, and can we trust you to do the same? A romance pack would benefit all of us, not one group. And should we be forced to besiege Bioware to get the romance pack, it'd be far more effective to have all groups represented, not just one.

I doubt Bioware could sustain a seige by all LI thread armies. It was only a 200 pages back where we found the location of Bioware on Google Maps... :bandit:

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Modifié par Guardian295, 17 mars 2010 - 04:04 .


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gutty47 wrote...

Sky Shadowing wrote...

We'll try and keep you informed of any new developments in this, and can we trust you to do the same? A romance pack would benefit all of us, not one group. And should we be forced to besiege Bioware to get the romance pack, it'd be far more effective to have all groups represented, not just one.

I doubt Bioware could sustain a seige by all LI thread armies. It was only a 200 pages back where we found the location of Bioware on Google Maps... :bandit:

Do we still have the location laser designated?

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Guardian295 wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

It's possible, but you're talking about increasing his life expectancy by 50%. There would have to be one heck of a medical advance. Besides, I find it more interesting and romantic for them to realize this and decide that "it's worth it."

Assuming the cybernetics haven't changed his aging then it would be interesting to see how the relationship would develop... but I think the cybernetics have changed him irrevocably. As has been mentioned earlier, I'm slightly disappointed that the subject of what Shepard is hasn't been touched on. If we take it to extremes the cybernetics could've made Shepard the first immortal being. We just don't know.

I doubt it even machines "die"

And machines can be replaced/upgraded. It may be even easier to replace broken down parts if the design was done properly during the Lazarus project.

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gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

It's possible, but you're talking about increasing his life expectancy by 50%. There would have to be one heck of a medical advance. Besides, I find it more interesting and romantic for them to realize this and decide that "it's worth it."

Assuming the cybernetics haven't changed his aging then it would be interesting to see how the relationship would develop... but I think the cybernetics have changed him irrevocably. As has been mentioned earlier, I'm slightly disappointed that the subject of what Shepard is hasn't been touched on. If we take it to extremes the cybernetics could've made Shepard the first immortal being. We just don't know.

I've speculated before on what Lazarus did. Part of me thinks Shep isn't going to survive ME3 and/or Miranda's going to have some serious explaining to do.

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gutty47 wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

It's possible, but you're talking about increasing his life expectancy by 50%. There would have to be one heck of a medical advance. Besides, I find it more interesting and romantic for them to realize this and decide that "it's worth it."

Assuming the cybernetics haven't changed his aging then it would be interesting to see how the relationship would develop... but I think the cybernetics have changed him irrevocably. As has been mentioned earlier, I'm slightly disappointed that the subject of what Shepard is hasn't been touched on. If we take it to extremes the cybernetics could've made Shepard the first immortal being. We just don't know.

I doubt it even machines "die"

And machines can be replaced/upgraded. It may be even easier to replace broken down parts if the design was done properly during the Lazarus project.

You can't replace part forever in the end everything dies in time
Imortality is only acheived through what we leave behind

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DarthReavus wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

I doubt Bioware could sustain a seige by all LI thread armies. It was only a 200 pages back where we found the location of Bioware on Google Maps... :bandit:

Do we still have the location laser designated?

Maybe.

jtav wrote...

I've speculated before on what Lazarus did. Part of me thinks Shep isn't going to survive ME3 and/or Miranda's going to have some serious explaining to do.

Miranda already has explaining to do. Shepard needs to find out whats been done to him/her.

Guardian295 wrote...

You can't replace part forever in the end everything dies in time
Imortality is only acheived through what we leave behind

Immortal as one can be... Nothing will survive heatdeath of the universe. As long as thier is some sort of human civilization, Shepard could continue.

I just find this aspect fascinating... even if its completely out of left field.

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gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

It's possible, but you're talking about increasing his life expectancy by 50%. There would have to be one heck of a medical advance. Besides, I find it more interesting and romantic for them to realize this and decide that "it's worth it."

Assuming the cybernetics haven't changed his aging then it would be interesting to see how the relationship would develop... but I think the cybernetics have changed him irrevocably. As has been mentioned earlier, I'm slightly disappointed that the subject of what Shepard is hasn't been touched on. If we take it to extremes the cybernetics could've made Shepard the first immortal being. We just don't know.


definitely shep is post-human. depending on the level of cybernetics used they could be there continually maintaining/repairing his systems perennially. it is also possible that gene-modification for alliance soldiers also increases life-expectancy, along with other benefits, especially elite special-forces ones like shepard is. plus there's any exotic techs that being a spectre grants access to... the possibilities are endless.

i would also like to have seen much more dealing with shepards id in me2 - it was briefly touched on at the beginning (mainly to reassure the player that you were still, well, you) but dealing with the whole "being dead for two years" would be quite an adjustment post-collector mission.

Modifié par Jebel Krong, 17 mars 2010 - 04:17 .


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gutty47 wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

You can't replace part forever in the end everything dies in time
Imortality is only acheived through what we leave behind

Immortal as one can be... Nothing will survive heatdeath of the universe. As long as thier is some sort of human civilization, Shepard could continue.

I just find this aspect fascinating... even if its completely out of left field.

So we are in agreement he would not truly be Immortal but close to it
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Well I think it's time for me to disappear
Night all
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what the ..

you used to make 20+ pages per day... now only 10. Shame on you.

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Guardian295 wrote...

**To self**
I'm to tired for this sh**Image IPB

**To thread**
Can someone help me?
I'm trying to get 2 images in my sig but as you can see they won't fit, have tried ajusting the image properties till they fit but when I hit save they revert back to normal size
Please help

Both images together can't have a height of more 13.5mm or so. If they are, at least one gets resized. And one single image can't have a height of more than about 9mm, or it gets resized.

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gutty47 wrote...

As part of my transcribing efforts, I went and posted Oriana's email in the discussion group. It may come of use one day.

Thanks a lot. That's an email I always keep in the "unread messages" folder for easy reference like 5 or so others.

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More discussion of Shepard's ID in ME3 would be welcome. I really think he has Reaper tech implanted in him. I hope I'm wrong.

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One thing I've never really seen discussed is, assuming Lazarus didn't change this, is that Miranda will live significantly longer and appear to age slower than Shepard. It's not as pronounced as Shepard/Liara would be, but it's there. Eventually (40 years or so), she'll be able to pass as his daughter.How do they deal with it? Does it cause tension?

I think nobody has asked that because nobody knows what exactly has been done with Shepard. If there was a noticable and irrepairable difference in how fast they age, I'm very sure it would cause tension. The question is whether they stay together until one dies or go separate ways at some time to avoid the pain. Or if they decide to die together in some way. But I think these questions are only appropriate for a very noticeable difference in aging - to some point it's just normal that one dies up to 30 years before the other, considering the general improvement in life span.

As for Shepard's life span, there is not even enough information to speculate reasonably. One assumption is that when he was rebuilt, genetic age and cell age were reset, another that, since TIM wanted him exactly as he had been, they were not. 

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Why plan 50+ years ahead, when both can die any second on a routine mission?

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jtav wrote...

More discussion of Shepard's ID in ME3 would be welcome. I really think he has Reaper tech implanted in him. I hope I'm wrong.

I also think he might have, and that this will cause problems in ME3. I can see a few decision paths I really don't like, so I'd rather not speak of them too loudly :lol:

There's the question - if he has Reaper tech - how far he can control it, or learn to control it. And if he can, how this will change him, and influence his decisions. Not through indoctrination - learning control would have to include avoiding that - but because of the added power it gives him.

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Errol Dnamyx wrote...

Why plan 50+ years ahead, when both can die any second on a routine mission?

Because thinking ahead is what humans do. The more intelligent ones, at least.

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jtav wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

It's possible, but you're talking about increasing his life expectancy by 50%. There would have to be one heck of a medical advance. Besides, I find it more interesting and romantic for them to realize this and decide that "it's worth it."

Assuming the cybernetics haven't changed his aging then it would be interesting to see how the relationship would develop... but I think the cybernetics have changed him irrevocably. As has been mentioned earlier, I'm slightly disappointed that the subject of what Shepard is hasn't been touched on. If we take it to extremes the cybernetics could've made Shepard the first immortal being. We just don't know.

I've speculated before on what Lazarus did. Part of me thinks Shep isn't going to survive ME3 and/or Miranda's going to have some serious explaining to do.

I think there will be a decision near the end of ME3, where Shepard can die, maybe because he doesn't want to live the way he has become. I also think we'll get the option to avoid that in at least two different ways.

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Sorry if it sounds like I'm jumping the gun. I just think how they might deal with these issues would be interesting. I wanted to grill Miranda about Lazarus in the game, so that option was conspicuous by its absence.

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Been playing around and put together a few new Mirivonne forums images:



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Thanks Flashy and welcome back.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

It's possible, but you're talking about increasing his life expectancy by 50%. There would have to be one heck of a medical advance. Besides, I find it more interesting and romantic for them to realize this and decide that "it's worth it."

Assuming the cybernetics haven't changed his aging then it would be interesting to see how the relationship would develop... but I think the cybernetics have changed him irrevocably. As has been mentioned earlier, I'm slightly disappointed that the subject of what Shepard is hasn't been touched on. If we take it to extremes the cybernetics could've made Shepard the first immortal being. We just don't know.

I've speculated before on what Lazarus did. Part of me thinks Shep isn't going to survive ME3 and/or Miranda's going to have some serious explaining to do.

I think there will be a decision near the end of ME3, where Shepard can die, maybe because he doesn't want to live the way he has become. I also think we'll get the option to avoid that in at least two different ways.


I definitely think there will definitely be a sacrifice option. My Shep might take it. I can't really see my way to a happy ending with a Miranda who implanted Reaper tech in him and didn't mention it.

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jtav wrote...

I definitely think there will definitely be a sacrifice option. My Shep might take it. I can't really see my way to a happy ending with a Miranda who implanted Reaper tech in him and didn't mention it.

Miranda might not even know. TIM may have just given her tech and said it was experimental tech which was acquired through his various contacts.