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[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

It's possible, but you're talking about increasing his life expectancy by 50%. There would have to be one heck of a medical advance. Besides, I find it more interesting and romantic for them to realize this and decide that "it's worth it."

Assuming the cybernetics haven't changed his aging then it would be interesting to see how the relationship would develop... but I think the cybernetics have changed him irrevocably. As has been mentioned earlier, I'm slightly disappointed that the subject of what Shepard is hasn't been touched on. If we take it to extremes the cybernetics could've made Shepard the first immortal being. We just don't know.

I've speculated before on what Lazarus did. Part of me thinks Shep isn't going to survive ME3 and/or Miranda's going to have some serious explaining to do.

I think there will be a decision near the end of ME3, where Shepard can die, maybe because he doesn't want to live the way he has become. I also think we'll get the option to avoid that in at least two different ways.

I definitely think there will definitely be a sacrifice option. My Shep might take it. I can't really see my way to a happy ending with a Miranda who implanted Reaper tech in him and didn't mention it.

You do have a knack for painting the bleak pictures, jtav. I say it depends on what the Reaper tech does. I'm actually rather allergic against all this talk about "too dangerous to know too much about". Things Man Was Not Meant To Know aren't! Period. For the same reason I tend to keep the Collector base in ME2, though it rankles to have to hand it to TIM.

Modifié par Ieldra2, 17 mars 2010 - 05:18 .

[gutty47]

Ieldra2 wrote...

You do have a knack for painting the bleak pictures, jtav. I say it depends on what the Reaper tech does. I'm actually rather allergic against all this talk about "too dangerous to know too much about". Things Man Was Not Meant To Know aren't! Period. For the same reason I tend to keep the Collector base in ME2, though it rankles to have to hand it to TIM.

Oh don't get me started on the ridiculous-ness of destroying the collector base. Theres no reason not to save the base. Its not like Shepard can't just go back later on and destroy the base if need be.

Ugh. *angry face*

[jtav]

Ieldra2 wrote...

You do have a knack for painting the bleak pictures, jtav. I say it depends on what the Reaper tech does. I'm actually rather allergic against all this talk about "too dangerous to know too much about". Things Man Was Not Meant To Know aren't! Period. For the same reason I tend to keep the Collector base in ME2, though it rankles to have to hand it to TIM.

I can't help it. It's the way my brain works. Some day I'll come up with a happy ending, honest.

[gutty47]

jtav wrote...

I can't help it. It's the way my brain works. Some day I'll come up with a happy ending, honest.

You're just setting us up for an unhappy ending. We've got you figured out.

[Ieldra]

gutty47 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

You do have a knack for painting the bleak pictures, jtav. I say it depends on what the Reaper tech does. I'm actually rather allergic against all this talk about "too dangerous to know too much about". Things Man Was Not Meant To Know aren't! Period. For the same reason I tend to keep the Collector base in ME2, though it rankles to have to hand it to TIM.

Oh don't get me started on the ridiculous-ness of destroying the collector base. Theres no reason not to save the base. Its not like Shepard can't just go back later on and destroy the base if need be.

Ugh. *angry face*

Indeed. And to paint that as the good decision. There were two points in the game where I got really angry. One was the ricidulous reasoning about why so many humans were needed for the human Reaper - I rarely read such bullsh*t even in very bad books. The other was how the decision to destroy the Collector was painted as the Paragon, even "right" one. Complete nonsense.

[gutty47]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Indeed. And to paint that as the good decision. There were two points in the game where I got really angry. One was the ricidulous reasoning about why so many humans were needed for the human Reaper - I rarely read such bullsh*t even in very bad books. The other was how the decision to destroy the Collector was painted as the Paragon, even "right" one. Complete nonsense.

I could gloss over the human-reaper stuff... but my first play through I picked the 'renegade' option of saving the base. I was utterly confused by the red sun indicating it was a renegade action. Considering the number of threads that spawned not long after the game was out, we're not the only ones scratching our heads.

I hope that making all the paragon choices isn't the 'correct' way to finish the game (i.e. save as many as possible).

The only reason I choose the save base option is to listen to Miranda tell TIM to go shove it.

[Jediknight120]

Ieldra2 wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

You do have a knack for painting the bleak pictures, jtav. I say it depends on what the Reaper tech does. I'm actually rather allergic against all this talk about "too dangerous to know too much about". Things Man Was Not Meant To Know aren't! Period. For the same reason I tend to keep the Collector base in ME2, though it rankles to have to hand it to TIM.

Oh don't get me started on the ridiculous-ness of destroying the collector base. Theres no reason not to save the base. Its not like Shepard can't just go back later on and destroy the base if need be.

Ugh. *angry face*

Indeed. And to paint that as the good decision. There were two points in the game where I got really angry. One was the ricidulous reasoning about why so many humans were needed for the human Reaper - I rarely read such bullsh*t even in very bad books. The other was how the decision to destroy the Collector was painted as the Paragon, even "right" one. Complete nonsense.

I found Shep's justification for nuked the Collector base to be a bit silly. I nuked on the principle of "I don't trust TIM/it's too dangerous to let fall into the wrong hands."

[jtav]

I chose to destroy the base. Reaper tech isn't presented as normal science, but something closer to the One Ring that corrupts all who use it. It's the anti-science. It discourages curiosity. Notice how uninterested anyone is in reverse engineering the relays or discovering how the Citadel's internal systems work. The galaxy scavenges; it doesn't research.

[gutty47]

jtav wrote...

Notice how uninterested anyone is in reverse engineering the relays or discovering how the Citadel's internal systems work. The galaxy scavenges; it doesn't research.

Its this lazy approach to figuring out how the mass relays work that has led to the downfall of every previous generation of spacefaring species. The protheans managed to just build a working mass relay and this eventually led to the events of the ME games.

Even the matriarch at the bar on Illium managed to figure out that researching the mass relays is a good idea... its too bad everyone else in the galaxy has thier head up thier arse.

Edit: Just remembered that the latest Cerberus News Network mentions 'Dark Switches' which were previously unknown function switches on mass relays...

Modifié par gutty47, 17 mars 2010 - 05:50 .

[jtav]

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

I can't help it. It's the way my brain works. Some day I'll come up with a happy ending, honest.

You're just setting us up for an unhappy ending. We've got you figured out.

Ha! The story I'm working on will have a happier ending than it probably has a right too, but a couple of people are balking more than I thought they would. It's depressing.

[Ieldra]

jtav wrote...

I chose to destroy the base. Reaper tech isn't presented as normal science, but something closer to the One Ring that corrupts all who use it. It's the anti-science. It discourages curiosity. Notice how uninterested anyone is in reverse engineering the relays or discovering how the Citadel's internal systems work. The galaxy scavenges; it doesn't research.

There should be no such thing as the One Ring in an SF universe. That's weaving human ethics into the physics of the universe and as such complete nonsense. There is no "abnormal" technology. The effects of Reaper technology are not inherent in their being Reaper technology, it is how these machines were built. With a little time and effort, Citadel civilizuation could build machines with the same effects. Would they be "evil" as well?

@gutty:
I agree with you completely!!!

Modifié par Ieldra2, 17 mars 2010 - 05:57 .

[gutty47]

jtav wrote...

Ha! The story I'm working on will have a happier ending than it probably has a right too, but a couple of people are balking more than I thought they would. It's depressing.

I hope you're not changing your story just to satisfy other people...

The story should write itself and as long as you're happy then don't worry about it.

[Jediknight120]

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Ha! The story I'm working on will have a happier ending than it probably has a right too, but a couple of people are balking more than I thought they would. It's depressing.

I hope you're not changing your story just to satisfy other people...

The story should write itself and as long as you're happy then don't worry about it.

This. I think some of our reaction is based on how much we care for the characters and how hard it is to see them in a difficult position.

[Ieldra]

Jediknight120 wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Ha! The story I'm working on will have a happier ending than it probably has a right too, but a couple of people are balking more than I thought they would. It's depressing.

I hope you're not changing your story just to satisfy other people...

The story should write itself and as long as you're happy then don't worry about it.

This. I think some of our reaction is based on how much we care for the characters and how hard it is to see them in a difficult position.

Yes...but Rath and Meg also do that, and I haven't seen people complain about that. Perhaps it's because jtav announces it in advance??

jtav, how about springing these things on us as a surprise?

***hides from everyone else***

[Jediknight120]

Ieldra2 wrote...

Jediknight120 wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Ha! The story I'm working on will have a happier ending than it probably has a right too, but a couple of people are balking more than I thought they would. It's depressing.

I hope you're not changing your story just to satisfy other people...

The story should write itself and as long as you're happy then don't worry about it.

This. I think some of our reaction is based on how much we care for the characters and how hard it is to see them in a difficult position.

Yes...but Rath and Meg also do that, and I haven't seen people complain about that. Perhaps it's because jtav announces it in advance??

jtav, how about springing these things on us as a surprise?

***hides from everyone else***

Oh I complain about Rath and Meg tormenting me all the time!!

[DarthReavus]

Jediknight120 wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

Jediknight120 wrote...

gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Ha! The story I'm working on will have a happier ending than it probably has a right too, but a couple of people are balking more than I thought they would. It's depressing.

I hope you're not changing your story just to satisfy other people...

The story should write itself and as long as you're happy then don't worry about it.

This. I think some of our reaction is based on how much we care for the characters and how hard it is to see them in a difficult position.

Yes...but Rath and Meg also do that, and I haven't seen people complain about that. Perhaps it's because jtav announces it in advance??

jtav, how about springing these things on us as a surprise?

***hides from everyone else***

Oh I complain about Rath and Meg tormenting me all the time!!

As do I.....while I'm stabbing Rath's corpse in the back repeatedly with my pitchfork

[Jediknight120]

Darth, if you kill him before the story is done we'll be coming for you next!

[MegWithAMouth]

Yeah, we get plenty of complaints, actually. I tend to view them as a good thing though. If people are so emotionally invested in what we're writing that they feel the need to complain, then we must be doing something right.

[Jediknight120]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Yeah, we get plenty of complaints, actually. I tend to view them as a good thing though. If people are so emotionally invested in what we're writing that they feel the need to complain, then we must be doing something right.

Hey, send me some complaints on MY story then!! 

And I wouldn't know about being emotionally invested. :whistle:

[SgtPotato]

Jediknight120 wrote...

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Yeah, we get plenty of complaints, actually. I tend to view them as a good thing though. If people are so emotionally invested in what we're writing that they feel the need to complain, then we must be doing something right.

Hey, send me some complaints on MY story then!! 

And I wouldn't know about being emotionally invested. :whistle:

I got a complaint for you, jedi!






Your story suck, that's my complaint.



Just kidding. Your story is too awesome to have complaints.

[DarthReavus]

MegWithAMouth wrote...

Yeah, we get plenty of complaints, actually. I tend to view them as a good thing though. If people are so emotionally invested in what we're writing that they feel the need to complain, then we must be doing something right.

*Holds hand up* Yeah, that would be me.  I do have a tendency to bombard with comments after a new chapter don't I....

[Ieldra]

I have a question for you:



If Ashley and Miranda actually met, what would they think about each other? At which point? They are very different in personality and outlook, yet also have some similarities (some details in the OP). And no, I don't want to know how they would fight each other over Shepard, because I think that's silly. Just how they think about and react to each other.

[jtav]

Maybe I should post fewer excerpts. Although the story is about 1500 words from complete, so it's moot now. I just write slowly in forum time, so I try to compensate for that. The disbelief that some people had that the romance might not end well threw me, as did complaints that Shep was OOC. But I'm not changing anything. (though I'm toying with a happier sequel)

[Andysilv]

Ieldra2 wrote...

I have a question for you:

If Ashley and Miranda actually met, what would they think about each other? At which point? They are very different in personality and outlook, yet also have some similarities (some details in the OP). And no, I don't want to know how they would fight each other over Shepard, because I think that's silly. Just how they think about and react to each other.

Well Ashley is very wary of anybody who is possibly "anti-Alliance" so I don't imagine she would be very fond of Miranda due to her Cerberus links. With time though, I could see them learning to respect each other for their abilities and strength.

[MegWithAMouth]

@Jedi: I tried to come up with a complaint just now, but all I could think of was that last chapter and Miranda thinking, "Bloody hell, why didn't I lock the damn door?" :lol:

Needless to say, I couldn't come up with anything while I was ROFL.