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Morning all.

Ieldra, I don't think you missed anything. I field tested a plot bunny, and MA wondered why I couldn't get away from the angsty stuff. I'm not that bad am I guys?

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Guardian295 wrote...

SgtPotato wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

I have returnedImage IPB
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No.

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You had to know you would get that response. :innocent:

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andysilv87 wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

SgtPotato wrote...

Guardian295 wrote...

I have returnedImage IPB
Miss meImage IPB


No.

OhImage IPB


You had to know you would get that response. :innocent:

Yeah but I set it up anywayImage IPB

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jtav wrote...

Morning all.

Good morning, jtav.

Ieldra, I don't think you missed anything. I field tested a plot bunny, and MA wondered why I couldn't get away from the angsty stuff. I'm not that bad am I guys?

Not at all. As I said, the Miranda in your fanfic was very convincing. Since usually I prefer non-romance main plots in stories, I appreciate the themes you write about.

BTW, "Are we really that bad?" was what I wanted to ask when you said you notice there's a majority of men here a few days ago. At that time I didn't see anything particularly bad, but I've been wondering if this thread comes across to women as the Kaidan thread comes across to men. I'd prefer it did not.

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jtav wrote...

Morning all.
Ieldra, I don't think you missed anything. I field tested a plot bunny, and MA wondered why I couldn't get away from the angsty stuff. I'm not that bad am I guys?


Good morning to you! :)

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I would say it does Ield lol

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Ieldra2 wrote...

At that time I didn't see anything particularly bad, but I've been wondering if this thread comes across to women as the Kaidan thread comes across to men. I'd prefer it did not.


I hope not. My apologies, ladies, if we make you feel uncomfortable. ;)

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Karstedt wrote...

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@Andy: Lol. We haven't even lived a quarter of our possible lifespans yet. I hardly think we can consider ourselves old.


Don't worry, there's at least one creepy guy around here older than you two... And why is everyone looking at me funny?


Pfah, youngsters! I was in my early 20s when the Dreamcast came out.
Why are you all staring at me now?

#24534
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Prudii Aden wrote...
Why are you all staring at me now?


Your fly is undone. :lol:

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Ieldra2 wrote...


Ieldra, I don't think you missed anything. I field tested a plot bunny, and MA wondered why I couldn't get away from the angsty stuff. I'm not that bad am I guys?

Not at all. As I said, the Miranda in your fanfic was very convincing. Since usually I prefer non-romance main plots in stories, I appreciate the themes you write about.


I think he was objecting to me giving Miranda issues with chronic pain and committment in a prequel AU. Come to think of it, andy said I was "brave" for saying her father was an abuser. It seems pretty clear to me that she was verbally/psychologically abused, so I don't get it.

BTW, "Are we really that bad?" was what I wanted to ask when you said you notice there's a majority of men here a few days ago. At that time I didn't see anything particularly bad, but I've been wondering if this thread comes across to women as the Kaidan thread comes across to men. I'd prefer it did not.


I only get uncomfortable when there's a ton of Yvonne pics or discussion, especially the wall of pics. The occasional conflation of actress and character bugs me because of the subtle implication that you must like both equally. I enjoy the Miranda pics, and most people here are very good about not reducing her to "dat ass."

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jtav wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...


Ieldra, I don't think you missed anything. I field tested a plot bunny, and MA wondered why I couldn't get away from the angsty stuff. I'm not that bad am I guys?

Not at all. As I said, the Miranda in your fanfic was very convincing. Since usually I prefer non-romance main plots in stories, I appreciate the themes you write about.


I think he was objecting to me giving Miranda issues with chronic pain and committment in a prequel AU. Come to think of it, andy said I was "brave" for saying her father was an abuser. It seems pretty clear to me that she was verbally/psychologically abused, so I don't get it.

I agree. There must be something very bad about her father - you don't have a parting involving gunshots just for a regular family fight. Abuse is a likely possibility, killing Miranda's sisters another one. In the story I'll hopefully be able to finish before everyone has lost interest, her father sets her up for a dangerous situation in order to trigger her biotic ability. In fact, it's even worse than it sounds, but I don't want to spoil any details.

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jtav wrote...

I only get uncomfortable when there's a ton of Yvonne pics or discussion, especially the wall of pics. The occasional conflation of actress and character bugs me because of the subtle implication that you must like both equally.

Any implication of having to like both is being assumed... no one is saying you need to and I would say all of us are having no trouble separating character from VA.

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Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...


Ieldra, I don't think you missed anything. I field tested a plot bunny, and MA wondered why I couldn't get away from the angsty stuff. I'm not that bad am I guys?

Not at all. As I said, the Miranda in your fanfic was very convincing. Since usually I prefer non-romance main plots in stories, I appreciate the themes you write about.


I think he was objecting to me giving Miranda issues with chronic pain and committment in a prequel AU. Come to think of it, andy said I was "brave" for saying her father was an abuser. It seems pretty clear to me that she was verbally/psychologically abused, so I don't get it.

I agree. There must be something very bad about her father - you don't have a parting involving gunshots just for a regular family fight. Abuse is a likely possibility, killing Miranda's sisters another one. In the story I'll hopefully be able to finish before everyone has lost interest, her father sets her up for a dangerous situation in order to trigger her biotic ability. In fact, it's even worse than it sounds, but I don't want to spoil any details.

i assumed that none of her other "sisters" lived past embryonic stage as they were being genetically-engineered. i can imagine psychological abuse, stemming from such high expectations, but verbally? :?

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so whats up, wheres all the miranda pics?



the Talimancers got loads, wheres the miranda love?

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Jebel Krong wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...

jtav wrote...

Ieldra2 wrote...


Ieldra, I don't think you missed anything. I field tested a plot bunny, and MA wondered why I couldn't get away from the angsty stuff. I'm not that bad am I guys?

Not at all. As I said, the Miranda in your fanfic was very convincing. Since usually I prefer non-romance main plots in stories, I appreciate the themes you write about.


I think he was objecting to me giving Miranda issues with chronic pain and committment in a prequel AU. Come to think of it, andy said I was "brave" for saying her father was an abuser. It seems pretty clear to me that she was verbally/psychologically abused, so I don't get it.

I agree. There must be something very bad about her father - you don't have a parting involving gunshots just for a regular family fight. Abuse is a likely possibility, killing Miranda's sisters another one. In the story I'll hopefully be able to finish before everyone has lost interest, her father sets her up for a dangerous situation in order to trigger her biotic ability. In fact, it's even worse than it sounds, but I don't want to spoil any details.

i assumed that none of her other "sisters" lived past embryonic stage as they were being genetically-engineered. i can imagine psychological abuse, stemming from such high expectations, but verbally? :?

It's part of the same thing. Verbal *is* psychological. As for Miranda's sisters, how would he know if any of his "daughters" could live up to his expectations if he did not give them the chance? Miranda says she's "the first one he kept." That doesn't sound like something as comparatively harmless as an early abortion. 

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sunnyfunny wrote...

so whats up, wheres all the miranda pics?

the Talimancers got loads, wheres the miranda love?

Look back through the almost-1000 pages and you'll find plenty.  Until then, remove yourself from my presence.

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sunnyfunny wrote...

so whats up, wheres all the miranda pics?

the Talimancers got loads, wheres the miranda love?

Look back a few pages, find a lot of Miranda screenshots.

We don't have as much fan art, but some can be found in the group. Myself, I'm a person of words rather than pictures, so expect me to write the occasional wall of text about Miranda. Just don't expect visual art. I think that tendency goes for the whole thread. We seem to have more discussion and less art.

@DarthReavus:
You're getting into your old persona as Chief Inquisitor of this thread, it seems - you were more unfriendly than needed. Good afternoon, btw.

 

Modifié par Ieldra2, 24 mars 2010 - 02:40 .


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DarthReavus wrote...

sunnyfunny wrote...

so whats up, wheres all the miranda pics?

the Talimancers got loads, wheres the miranda love?

Look back through the almost-1000 pages and you'll find plenty.  Until then, remove yourself from my presence.


Bit harsh maybe Darth?

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DarthReavus wrote...

sunnyfunny wrote...

so whats up, wheres all the miranda pics?

the Talimancers got loads, wheres the miranda love?

Look back through the almost-1000 pages and you'll find plenty.  Until then, remove yourself from my presence.


We are a much deaper group of fans, we don not idolise Mrir for her looks alone, but rather for the well written chraracter that she is and depth of her story.Image IPB

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Ieldra2 wrote...

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i assumed that none of her other "sisters" lived past embryonic stage as they were being genetically-engineered. i can imagine psychological abuse, stemming from such high expectations, but verbally? :?

It's part of the same thing. Verbal *is* psychological. As for Miranda's sisters, how would he know if any of his "daughters" could live up to his expectations if he did not give them the chance? Miranda says she's "the first one he kept." That doesn't sound like something as comparatively harmless as an early abortion. 


verbal abuse can be psychological absue as well, if it's used that way, but not always - for instance aggressive language/behaviour is not necc. psychological in nature but can still be abusive. of course i guess it is still semantically entangled.

as for living up to expectations, i fully assumed that the extensive genetic engineering wouldn't necc. be foolproof first time, and getting the right mix of genes for the "perfect" offspring wouldn't be easy. let alone tring to make a biotic one - what's the success rate for biotics even surviving <10%?

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andysilv87 wrote...

DarthReavus wrote...

sunnyfunny wrote...

so whats up, wheres all the miranda pics?

the Talimancers got loads, wheres the miranda love?

Look back through the almost-1000 pages and you'll find plenty.  Until then, remove yourself from my presence.


Bit harsh maybe Darth?

Perhaps, I'm feeling more and more tired and run down thanks to work and that's just making my mood worse.  Six day, or longer, weeks are becoming more and more frequent at the moment and I don't think I'm getting sufficient time to rest and relax.  Fortunately I've got a week off soon, hopefully it comes before I snap altogether.

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Oh and hi everyone.



This is Breakdown Boy and this my favourite forum in the ME2 universe.

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here you are Darth...

Sof it....bloody crappy forum.

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gutty47 wrote...

jtav wrote...

I only get uncomfortable when there's a ton of Yvonne pics or discussion, especially the wall of pics. The occasional conflation of actress and character bugs me because of the subtle implication that you must like both equally.

Any implication of having to like both is being assumed... no one is saying you need to and I would say all of us are having no trouble separating character from VA.

likewise, but i am also very much in mind that one doesn't exist without the other, too.

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Prudii Aden wrote...

Karstedt wrote...

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@Andy: Lol. We haven't even lived a quarter of our possible lifespans yet. I hardly think we can consider ourselves old.


Don't worry, there's at least one creepy guy around here older than you two... And why is everyone looking at me funny?


Pfah, youngsters! I was in my early 20s when the Dreamcast came out.
Why are you all staring at me now?


Yeah... I meant him... quit lookin' at me.