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screwoffreg wrote...

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Liara saved Shepard from "ascension". Miranda restored his life though. I will be interested to see the conflict between those two in particular if you romance Miranda after Liara.


The motivations are what seperates them.  Liara does it for love.  Miranda does it because TIM told her to, because he has plans to use Shep as a symbol.  I don't see see much specific conflict on that issue.


Miranda falls in love with Shepard though, the whole "promise me you'll came back" statement.  She even resigns from Cerebrus if you ignore TIM.  Cerebrus was her whole LIFE, for her to do that is a big deal.  Miranda also has no fear, as you can see when Jack confronts her.  She doesn't back down and she makes it very clear that Shepard is HERS and HERS alone if you romance her, as she says as much.  One possessive girlfriend versus an Asari with a vendeta...good times!!!


Oh, I agree.  I didn't romance Miranda (my canon shep is female, and wouldn't have anyway due to Liara), but I actually liked her a lot.  I hope she's available as a squadmate in the next game.  And I know she can fall in love with shep.  I'm just saying there isn't much conflict on who brought you back to life because they did it for such different reasons.  I'm not saying there wouldn't be a conflict based on you having romanced both of them.

And yes, it would be fun to watch what happens in that case.

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 Page 100! Let's show some love to the blue goddess :wub:

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Well, if you believe in story "canon". I think BW thinks of it as Shep and Liara in ME!, Then Shep and Miranda in ME2...with at least Miranda flirting. The Miranda relationship is thrown at you...just ask Jacob.

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justinnstuff wrote...

 Page 100! Let's show some love to the blue goddess :wub:


Since we've finally hit this milestone, I was wondering why earlier Liara threads had been shut down.  I don't want to open old wounds and get this one shut down too, but if someone could explain why previous Liara threads were shut down while other fan threads continue to grow, I'd appreciate it. 

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You know I was just thinking. The Reapers left the Keepers behind. Who is to say they didn't leave the SB behind as well....to collect info for easy access for them. The SB could even be unaware reapers are harvesting his knowledge.

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vigna wrote...

Well, if you believe in story "canon". I think BW thinks of it as Shep and Liara in ME!, Then Shep and Miranda in ME2...with at least Miranda flirting. The Miranda relationship is thrown at you...just ask Jacob.



I meant my own personal canon, not anyone else's.  I have a main playthrough that I consider more important than the others, and its always the first one I do.  Its my canon game and my canon shep.

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Yeled wrote...

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 Page 100! Let's show some love to the blue goddess :wub:


Since we've finally hit this milestone, I was wondering why earlier Liara threads had been shut down.  I don't want to open old wounds and get this one shut down too, but if someone could explain why previous Liara threads were shut down while other fan threads continue to grow, I'd appreciate it. 


They were all shut down on the same day. Everyone had to recreate theirs. It's just that the other threads grew way faster than this one did. It's insane the Tali thread already broke 1000 pages again. It's just not right. I find it strange the last Tali thread was shut down at 1150ish pages, but the new one is larger...

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I'm really interested in what Liara and the Shadow Broker say to each other. It's got to be something abhorrent, judging by how much of a necessity she sees it is to end him, aside from trying to sell Shepard's body of course.



The Collectors gain possession of the corpse? Will be interesting if Liara has to take the body through. So many hardships she's endured for Shep. Poor Liara..:( I really do love her!

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100 pages of The Beautiful Blue Goddess. :wub:
Even better, it is 100 pages of The Beautiful Blue Goddess with no filler. We have done Liara proud.

Modifié par General Stubbs, 03 mars 2010 - 05:55 .


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Yeled wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

 Page 100! Let's show some love to the blue goddess :wub:


Since we've finally hit this milestone, I was wondering why earlier Liara threads had been shut down.  I don't want to open old wounds and get this one shut down too, but if someone could explain why previous Liara threads were shut down while other fan threads continue to grow, I'd appreciate it. 

/*whisper: cos the mod that locked the topics prefer Tali over lovely Liara and cand stand our love to Liara...maybe even by locking he tries us to go over on tali.....he may be...you know ....:devil: maybe?
/*loud: YAY PAGE 100!

General Stubbs wrote...

100 pages of The Beautiful Blue Goddess. :wub:
Even better, it is 100 pages of The Beautiful Blue Goddess with no filler, we have done Liara proud.

indeed we did, and we will continue to!!

Modifié par Marcin R, 03 mars 2010 - 05:54 .


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Yeled wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

 Page 100! Let's show some love to the blue goddess :wub:


Since we've finally hit this milestone, I was wondering why earlier Liara threads had been shut down.  I don't want to open old wounds and get this one shut down too, but if someone could explain why previous Liara threads were shut down while other fan threads continue to grow, I'd appreciate it. 

I think S. Woo just decides to lock whenever he deems the get too large and unmanageable. Its hard to read through 100-1000 pages. It may also hog more memory whne "active" I dunno bout that though.

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Either because they want to annoy us even more. Or because the Liara threads are the only ones important enough to them to take any notice of. Pick your choice.

By the way, which wiki were someone referring to? As I said, I have little interest in comics as a medium, but I sure would like to know the story they've come up with. Especially since they denied it to us in the game.

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@ G Stubbs:  Its true. This is a really good thread. Full of good content and good discussion and very little trolling or arguments.

Modifié par Yeled, 03 mars 2010 - 05:54 .


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@ G Stubbs:  Its true. This is a really good thread. Full of good content and good discussion and very little trolling or arguments.


Yup. We have a ton of in-depth discussion about Liara. None of it leads to stupid flames either. After visiting a bunch of threads on this forum, this one has me the most occupied.

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bjdbwea wrote...

Either because they want to annoy us even more. Or because the Liara threads are the only ones important enough to them to take any notice of. Pick your choice.

By the way, which wiki were someone referring to? As I said, I have little interest in comics as a medium, but I sure would like to know the story they've come up with. Especially since they denied it to us in the game.


Here, I've linked you straight to the Liara page. :)

http://masseffect.wi...ki/Liara_T'Soni

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Yay page 100! Go Liara!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I'm really interested in what Liara and the Shadow Broker say to each other. It's got to be something abhorrent, judging by how much of a necessity she sees it is to end him, aside from trying to sell Shepard's body of course.

The Collectors gain possession of the corpse? Will be interesting if Liara has to take the body through. So many hardships she's endured for Shep. Poor Liara..:( I really do love her!


He says it is just business. He doesn't think a body is anything important or that teh collectors could use it for anything. he also doesn't care if the reapers and the collectors are working together or not. Then he threatens to have his men torture Liara and Feron for info....then she shreds all of the equipment.....with her awesome biotics.

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Yeled wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Yeled wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Liara saved Shepard from "ascension". Miranda restored his life though. I will be interested to see the conflict between those two in particular if you romance Miranda after Liara.


The motivations are what seperates them.  Liara does it for love.  Miranda does it because TIM told her to, because he has plans to use Shep as a symbol.  I don't see see much specific conflict on that issue.


Miranda falls in love with Shepard though, the whole "promise me you'll came back" statement.  She even resigns from Cerebrus if you ignore TIM.  Cerebrus was her whole LIFE, for her to do that is a big deal.  Miranda also has no fear, as you can see when Jack confronts her.  She doesn't back down and she makes it very clear that Shepard is HERS and HERS alone if you romance her, as she says as much.  One possessive girlfriend versus an Asari with a vendeta...good times!!!


Oh, I agree.  I didn't romance Miranda (my canon shep is female, and wouldn't have anyway due to Liara), but I actually liked her a lot.  I hope she's available as a squadmate in the next game.  And I know she can fall in love with shep.  I'm just saying there isn't much conflict on who brought you back to life because they did it for such different reasons.  I'm not saying there wouldn't be a conflict based on you having romanced both of them.

And yes, it would be fun to watch what happens in that case.


/shrug Never romanced Miranda, she just came off as a very generic character to me.  The can react however they want, though Liara would totally give Miranda the smackdown if it came to blows. ^_^

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Here, I've linked you straight to the Liara page. :)

http://masseffect.wi...ki/Liara_T'Soni


Thanks. I even knew that wiki, thought there might be another important one. :lol:

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Nozybidaj wrote...

Yeled wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Yeled wrote...

screwoffreg wrote...

Liara saved Shepard from "ascension". Miranda restored his life though. I will be interested to see the conflict between those two in particular if you romance Miranda after Liara.


The motivations are what seperates them.  Liara does it for love.  Miranda does it because TIM told her to, because he has plans to use Shep as a symbol.  I don't see see much specific conflict on that issue.


Miranda falls in love with Shepard though, the whole "promise me you'll came back" statement.  She even resigns from Cerebrus if you ignore TIM.  Cerebrus was her whole LIFE, for her to do that is a big deal.  Miranda also has no fear, as you can see when Jack confronts her.  She doesn't back down and she makes it very clear that Shepard is HERS and HERS alone if you romance her, as she says as much.  One possessive girlfriend versus an Asari with a vendeta...good times!!!


Oh, I agree.  I didn't romance Miranda (my canon shep is female, and wouldn't have anyway due to Liara), but I actually liked her a lot.  I hope she's available as a squadmate in the next game.  And I know she can fall in love with shep.  I'm just saying there isn't much conflict on who brought you back to life because they did it for such different reasons.  I'm not saying there wouldn't be a conflict based on you having romanced both of them.

And yes, it would be fun to watch what happens in that case.


/shrug Never romanced Miranda, she just came off as a very generic character to me.  The can react however they want, though Liara would totally give Miranda the smackdown if it came to blows. ^_^


I think Shepard would wake up one morning to find Miranda in his coffee cup. =]

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He says it is just business. He doesn't think a body is anything important or that teh collectors could use it for anything. he also doesn't care if the reapers and the collectors are working together or not. Then he threatens to have his men torture Liara and Feron for info....then she shreds all of the equipment.....with her awesome biotics.


Sounds awesome!!  OMG I can't wait to read the next issue!

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 @ justin..
To quote Miranda..."Any biotic could do it."

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vigna wrote...

He says it is just business. He doesn't think a body is anything important or that teh collectors could use it for anything. he also doesn't care if the reapers and the collectors are working together or not. Then he threatens to have his men torture Liara and Feron for info....then she shreds all of the equipment.....with her awesome biotics.


Sounds awesome!!  OMG I can't wait to read the next issue!


After reading that, I have to agree with you. I'm going to burst at the seams with excitement. :o

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You know I was just thinking. The Reapers left the Keepers behind. Who is to say they didn't leave the SB behind as well....to collect info for easy access for them. The SB could even be unaware reapers are harvesting his knowledge.


I hate to quote myself, but is anyone else thinking this? I think it has merit...

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vigna wrote...

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You know I was just thinking. The Reapers left the Keepers behind. Who is to say they didn't leave the SB behind as well....to collect info for easy access for them. The SB could even be unaware reapers are harvesting his knowledge.


I hate to quote myself, but is anyone else thinking this? I think it has merit...

for me: possible but unlikely: we will kill SB in Liara DLC and never hear of him/her more...