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[bjdbwea]

They've already lost my sale, can only win it back. Only credible reviews or comments on the forums from people I trust on the matter, will persuade me to buy any DLC, or any future BioWare game. Pre-order? Most certainly not. The disappointing bonus items and the equally disappointing Cerberus network make that decision even easier.

[jlb524]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

It has crossed my mind on a number of occasions should the fairly likely outcome of the ME1 LIs be true, and we get another cameo in ME3, how would they break it this time? Avoid it entirely, or just flat out get it out of the way early on?

They kinda mixed both with ME2, leaving it to a crummy magazine reveal only a few months before release. Maybe theyll go with that again....

I don't know how they'll break it, but they'll have the ME2 crew and their fans to worry about this time as well.  Unless, they keep them all and cameo the ME1 crew again.

I know they'll hold it off until they've hyped most other parts of the ME3 game (including new characters), so there will be new shinies to look at and distract the community from the bad news.

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

jlb524 wrote...

I don't know how they'll break it, but they'll have the ME2 crew and their fans to worry about this time as well.  Unless, they keep them all and cameo the ME1 crew again.

I know they'll hold it off until they've hyped most other parts of the ME3 game (including new characters), so there will be new shinies to look at and distract the community from the bad news.

To be honest J, I think its far more likely theyll cameo every previous character for "fairness" and to try and cushion the blow for the ME2 character fans, rather than just return the ME2 squad.

In the poll you made, I agree with your grouping of Tali and Garrus as the "ME2 squad". So all thats left is the ME1 LIs and Wrex, and to be honest Wrex seemed far to comfortable in his cameo to leave for ME3 I think.

Whether the ME1 LIs will and rejoin the squad.... Well have to wait and see.

If Bioware doesnt feel the need to choose between "all or nothing", and instead brings over the ME1 LIs as squadmates "because thats what they were saved for in ME2", I might just be in with a chance of really liking ME3 as an end to the trilogy.

[OrbitalWings]

Amazed how much that 1,000 Pages sketch I did is being reposted.....I don't even think it's any good...

[Fiannawolf]

Well if the next DLC that comes down the pipeline is the size of awakenings, then that would make me happy, otherwise Ill remain in the "Watch and see" mode.

[Marcin K]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Amazed how much that 1,000 Pages sketch I did is being reposted.....I don't even think it's any good...

it's awasome:O

Modifié par Marcin R, 05 mai 2010 - 05:14 .

[Marcin K]

double post error-sorry

Modifié par Marcin R, 05 mai 2010 - 05:13 .

[Fiannawolf]

York, Im hoping some of the next DLC will go the route of DAO Awakenings, IE 30ish hours of gametime. That was very enjoyable for me and at least my Fem Warden and Alistair had a still growing marriage, which was more then what happened in ME2. *Insert Sad panda Face*

[jlb524]

As mentioned, if Liara isn't going to be a squad mate in ME3 and have another crap role, I want to know early so I don't have to worry about it. What happened a few months ago sucked...still maintaining hope up until a month before the damn game came out.

[jlb524]

justinnstuff wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

To be honest though, alot of the ME2 squadmember fans need to read between the lines when us ME1 LI fans were told "They're being kept out of the squad so that they'll be saved for their important role for ME3". What does that say about the ME2 squaddies? We're almost encouraged in a meta way to not care about them, and see them as completely expendable.

I don't think they're doing any encouraging of not caring about characters. That would just be counterproductive.

Maybe, but I found it hard to care about characters that seem expendable.  I didn't allow my self to get as attached to this group as I did the first, knowing what happened to the first.

[Yeled]

jlb524 wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

It has crossed my mind on a number of occasions should the fairly likely outcome of the ME1 LIs be true, and we get another cameo in ME3, how would they break it this time? Avoid it entirely, or just flat out get it out of the way early on?

They kinda mixed both with ME2, leaving it to a crummy magazine reveal only a few months before release. Maybe theyll go with that again....

I don't know how they'll break it, but they'll have the ME2 crew and their fans to worry about this time as well.  Unless, they keep them all and cameo the ME1 crew again.

I know they'll hold it off until they've hyped most other parts of the ME3 game (including new characters), so there will be new shinies to look at and distract the community from the bad news.

Don't you think the very mention of new characters will create a strong reaction among the fan base?  Its certainly true that new characters will probably be included, but if they start putting new characters out there before they mention what's going to happen with the old ones, they are very likely going to get as many if not more questions and comments expressing concern on these forums about the old characters as they get positive feedback about the new ones.

[jlb524]

Yeled wrote...


Don't you think the very mention of new characters will create a strong reaction among the fan base?  Its certainly true that new characters will probably be included, but if they start putting new characters out there before they mention what's going to happen with the old ones, they are very likely going to get as many if not more questions and comments expressing concern on these forums about the old characters as they get positive feedback about the new ones.

They can just tell them 'trust us' like they did before.  People are fickle too.  While most people currently posting in the community will be pissed, there will be an influx of new comers closer to game release.  The won't have as much of an attachement to the characters as the current posters.  It will be the same thing that happened going from ME1 to ME2.

After ME1 was released, most BW forumites would have hated the idea of having new squad mates for ME2.  Closer to ME2 with all the hype and newcomers, the forum's attitude changed quite a bit regarding the squad mate situation.

[Yeled]

jlb524 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

To be honest though, alot of the ME2 squadmember fans need to read between the lines when us ME1 LI fans were told "They're being kept out of the squad so that they'll be saved for their important role for ME3". What does that say about the ME2 squaddies? We're almost encouraged in a meta way to not care about them, and see them as completely expendable.

I don't think they're doing any encouraging of not caring about characters. That would just be counterproductive.

Maybe, but I found it hard to care about characters that seem expendable.  I didn't allow my self to get as attached to this group as I did the first, knowing what happened to the first.

I didn't care much about them either.  That might be due to the fact that I spent half the game feeling disconnected because I was really hoping we'd see more from the ME1 squad.  So I never grew attached.  The most I can say for any of them is I like them alright.  For example, I thought Miranda and Jack were ok.  I'd like to see Miranda back.  But if she isn't I won't be too disappointed.

[Nivenus]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

To be honest though, alot of the ME2 squadmember fans need to read between the lines when us ME1 LI fans were told "They're being kept out of the squad so that they'll be saved for their important role for ME3". What does that say about the ME2 squaddies? We're almost encouraged in a meta way to not care about them, and see them as completely expendable.

People misinterpret this argument all the time. Let me see if I can explain it.

BioWare decided to add LIs and new character to ME2. They decided to leave ME1 characters, with the notable exception of Garrus and Tali out. They left the ME1 character out so there would be fewer variables to carry over to ME3. That doesn't mean they'll cut out the ME2 characters - they'll still have to deal with those variables regardless. But there's nothing you do in ME2 that affects the ME1 LIs and Wrex substantially - so they don't have to worry about whether the ME1 interests and Wrex were killed, had any important decisions during the romance, etc, etc.

BioWare wants the ME1 and ME2 characters to be on the same footing in ME3. They've said as much. That's why the ME1 characters weren't recruitable. The ME2 characters might be dead. So might everyone besides Liara.

[bjdbwea]

justinnstuff wrote...

If you don't trust the devs themselves, who do you trust? If you don't mind me asking.

I don't mind, but I'm not sure I understand your question. Trust in what regard? Every developer says their game is awesome. Do you trust any? I certainly don't. Trust in what they say about the upcoming roles of any character? No, I don't trust BioWare there either, not anymore. At least not if they start with their reassuring PR speak again.

If they clearly say "sorry, Liara is not available as a crew member and/or LI", then I will certainly believe that, because there would be no reason to lie about it. But even if they said "Liara is going to be an LI in ME 3", I would have to remain sceptical about the game, because I didn't exactly like the way romances were executed in ME 2.

So, whom do I trust? As I said, there are sites which have some credibility for me, and there are lots of reviewers that have none whatsoever. Any review would tell me about Liara's role though, or how the gameplay has changed. Apart from that, I would for example trust my fellow Liara fans on the forum when it comes to reviewing the game or a DLC.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 05 mai 2010 - 05:41 .

[WilliamShatner]

jlb524 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

To be honest though, alot of the ME2 squadmember fans need to read between the lines when us ME1 LI fans were told "They're being kept out of the squad so that they'll be saved for their important role for ME3". What does that say about the ME2 squaddies? We're almost encouraged in a meta way to not care about them, and see them as completely expendable.

I don't think they're doing any encouraging of not caring about characters. That would just be counterproductive.

Maybe, but I found it hard to care about characters that seem expendable.  I didn't allow my self to get as attached to this group as I did the first, knowing what happened to the first.

I think it's hard to care for poorly written, one dimensional superhmans...

[Fiannawolf]

Either way would work, I mean they did release Fable 2 in DLC parts. 5 of them If I remember correctly. I dont think a 500 meg DLC could cover everything we need to do with our ME1 crewmates.