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[Nozybidaj]

vigna wrote...

vigna wrote...

You know I was just thinking. The Reapers left the Keepers behind. Who is to say they didn't leave the SB behind as well....to collect info for easy access for them. The SB could even be unaware reapers are harvesting his knowledge.

I hate to quote myself, but is anyone else thinking this? I think it has merit...

I dunno, I had my suspicions in ME1 that the SB was really a reaper or reaper pawn, helping to shape galactic afairs as they saw fit.  I think it might be a bit far out there now though considering the SB is "selling" Shep's body to the Collectors.  If he as a reaper/reaper pawn why not just take it?

I do think he could be unaware of the whole thing though.

[revan11exile]

Just read the comic and i guess we will not have to kill feron for getting to close to Liara.

[Driveninhifi]

I heard a rumor that Liara is actually working for Cerberus in ME2. After giving them the body the Illusive Man makes her an offer. She's given resources and protection from the Shadow Broker, with the caveat that she doesn't interact with Shepard when he/she returns. It's an interesting twist and certainly explains a few things. It explains her demeanor, how she set up her network in such a sort period of time and most importantly why the Shadow Broker hasn't killed her yet.



The Illusive man is a manipulative bastard, and it makes sense he'd want Shepard away from Liara if she has access to a lot of info that could possibly incriminate him. It seems a bit forced to be sure, but it's the best explanation I've heard thus far.

They could also do a whole lot with her internal conflict in this case: she could desperately want to go with Shepard, but not be able to abandon the quest and especially not be able to leave Cerberus' protection. If she IS working for Cerberus and her contacts are related to Cerberus, the Shadow Broker would probably LOVE to torture her for lots of info. It also explains why Nyxeris would spy on her instead of kill her - it's much more useful for the Shadow Broker to try and get info on Cerberus than it would be to whack her.

[Nozybidaj]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I can't wait to read this!! More Liara!

Vigna, that is an interesting theory that the SB is an unwitting pawn of the Reapers. That would then justify it that Liara sees it as absolutely necessary that he is eliminated.

That still wouldn't explain the anger and hatred though.  I'm starting to think that part of her attitude change is just never going to get a proper explanantion or that it was ever intended to have one.  I'm skeptical that the big "reveal" is going to be anything other than Project Lazarus at this point.

[Raanz]

vigna wrote...

vigna wrote...

You know I was just thinking. The Reapers left the Keepers behind. Who is to say they didn't leave the SB behind as well....to collect info for easy access for them. The SB could even be unaware reapers are harvesting his knowledge.

I hate to quote myself, but is anyone else thinking this? I think it has merit...

Maybe.  If I remember the story so far, we still don't know if the Shadow Broker is an actual person, an organization or what.  Unless there is something in the newest issue of the comic.  I personally think the SB is an enigma.  I don't think you will ever find out details about it/him/her.  It's a driving force for the plot of the entire ME storyline. 

[jlb524]

revan11exile wrote...

Just read the comic and i guess we will not have to kill feron for getting to close to Liara.

Yeah, I would say that we should feel ashamed for not trusting Liara, but then I remember it's not her but her writers that we don't trust.

[Nozybidaj]

jlb524 wrote...

revan11exile wrote...

Just read the comic and i guess we will not have to kill feron for getting to close to Liara.

Yeah, I would say that we should feel ashamed for not trusting Liara, but then I remember it's not her but her writers that we don't trust.

Exactly.

[MoSa09]

Driveninhifi wrote...

I heard a rumor that Liara is actually working for Cerberus in ME2. After giving them the body the Illusive Man makes her an offer. She's given resources and protection from the Shadow Broker, with the caveat that she doesn't interact with Shepard when he/she returns. It's an interesting twist and certainly explains a few things. It explains her demeanor, how she set up her network in such a sort period of time and most importantly why the Shadow Broker hasn't killed her yet.

The Illusive man is a manipulative bastard, and it makes sense he'd want Shepard away from Liara if she has access to a lot of info that could possibly incriminate him. It seems a bit forced to be sure, but it's the best explanation I've heard thus far.
They could also do a whole lot with her internal conflict in this case: she could desperately want to go with Shepard, but not be able to abandon the quest and especially not be able to leave Cerberus' protection. If she IS working for Cerberus and her contacts are related to Cerberus, the Shadow Broker would probably LOVE to torture her for lots of info. It also explains why Nyxeris would spy on her instead of kill her - it's much more useful for the Shadow Broker to try and get info on Cerberus than it would be to whack her.

Interesting, where did you get that? Now that would qualify as a great revelation of the end of the fourth part of the comics, and could set up a nice story for dlc/ME 3 if it not only involves the SB, but also Cerberus and TIM. Deathly  triangle...

[screwoffreg]

I just wrote two chapters for my Liara story. I am not real confident of them, I am kind of torn as to whether to continue. Let me all know what you think. The title is "The Distance Between Two Stars"



http://www.fanfiction.net/~kanelam

[Raanz]

Driveninhifi wrote...

I heard a rumor that Liara is actually working for Cerberus in ME2. After giving them the body the Illusive Man makes her an offer. She's given resources and protection from the Shadow Broker, with the caveat that she doesn't interact with Shepard when he/she returns. It's an interesting twist and certainly explains a few things. It explains her demeanor, how she set up her network in such a sort period of time and most importantly why the Shadow Broker hasn't killed her yet.

The Illusive man is a manipulative bastard, and it makes sense he'd want Shepard away from Liara if she has access to a lot of info that could possibly incriminate him. It seems a bit forced to be sure, but it's the best explanation I've heard thus far.
They could also do a whole lot with her internal conflict in this case: she could desperately want to go with Shepard, but not be able to abandon the quest and especially not be able to leave Cerberus' protection. If she IS working for Cerberus and her contacts are related to Cerberus, the Shadow Broker would probably LOVE to torture her for lots of info. It also explains why Nyxeris would spy on her instead of kill her - it's much more useful for the Shadow Broker to try and get info on Cerberus than it would be to whack her.

This is interesting...It would explain why TiM askes Shepard in one of their early conversations: (paraphrasing) "So are you good, you are leaving your past behind you for the mission?"  and one of your responses is: " that's off limits" or some such.
Liara tells you multiple times that "that's not how the universe works..or this is Illium" or whatever.  Maybe TiM wants her to back off of Shepard as to not distract him from Cerberus's goal in ME2.....
Like I said, interesting theory.

[Nozybidaj]

MoSa09 wrote...
Interesting, where did you get that? Now that would qualify as a great revelation of the end of the fourth part of the comics, and could set up a nice story for dlc/ME 3 if it not only involves the SB, but also Cerberus and TIM. Deathly  triangle...

I dunno, I already pretty well emasculated TIM at the end of the suicide mission.  Any hold he had over Liara would have ended then and there.  It would serve as an explanantion on how she got her network setup so fast at least.

[jlb524]

Driveninhifi wrote...

I heard a rumor that Liara is actually working for Cerberus in ME2. After giving them the body the Illusive Man makes her an offer. She's given resources and protection from the Shadow Broker, with the caveat that she doesn't interact with Shepard when he/she returns. It's an interesting twist and certainly explains a few things. It explains her demeanor, how she set up her network in such a sort period of time and most importantly why the Shadow Broker hasn't killed her yet.

This would be interesting, especially if Shepard antagonizes TIM/Cerberus a the end of ME2.  It would be personally troublesome for my Renegade Sole Survivor Shepard (who utterly despises Cerberus and told TIM to go to hell after blowing up the Collector base) to know that her Liara is working for Cerberus and may now even be in danger from them due to her actions.

[vigna]

well, I have to say the theory that liara is working for TIM sounds way better than mine and also would be the best reason for any love shenanigans conflict...especially with what Liara has gone through for Shep. I also imagine Ash/kaidan has a similar story, but with teh alliance.

That, actually, makes complete sense.

[Nozybidaj]

jlb524 wrote...

Driveninhifi wrote...

I heard a rumor that Liara is actually working for Cerberus in ME2. After giving them the body the Illusive Man makes her an offer. She's given resources and protection from the Shadow Broker, with the caveat that she doesn't interact with Shepard when he/she returns. It's an interesting twist and certainly explains a few things. It explains her demeanor, how she set up her network in such a sort period of time and most importantly why the Shadow Broker hasn't killed her yet.

This would be interesting, especially if Shepard antagonizes TIM/Cerberus a the end of ME2.  It would be personally troublesome for my Renegade Sole Survivor Shepard (who utterly despises Cerberus and told TIM to go to hell after blowing up the Collector base) to know that her Liara is working for Cerberus and may now even be in danger from them due to her actions.

Well, now that the suicide mission is over and I told TIM to stuff it there is no reason for her not to come on board the Normandy now so we can work together to take out the SB. 

I could see it as being more of a hurdle if you side with TIM, acknowledging you basically work "for him" and he can now dictate the terms of your relationship with Liara.

[MoSa09]

Nozybidaj wrote...

MoSa09 wrote...
Interesting, where did you get that? Now that would qualify as a great revelation of the end of the fourth part of the comics, and could set up a nice story for dlc/ME 3 if it not only involves the SB, but also Cerberus and TIM. Deathly  triangle...

I dunno, I already pretty well emasculated TIM at the end of the suicide mission.  Any hold he had over Liara would have ended then and there.  It would serve as an explanantion on how she got her network setup so fast at least.

I just thought i could also add some sense to hear fear of Shep hating her. If she made a deal with TIM to hunt the SB and therefore get protection and access to Cerberus network while promising to stay away from Shepard, that would qualify as a reason to fear Shepard might hate her or be at least angry with what she did.

[Noxis6]

Driveninhifi wrote...

I heard a rumor that Liara is actually working for Cerberus in ME2. After giving them the body the Illusive Man makes her an offer. She's given resources and protection from the Shadow Broker, with the caveat that she doesn't interact with Shepard when he/she returns. It's an interesting twist and certainly explains a few things. It explains her demeanor, how she set up her network in such a sort period of time and most importantly why the Shadow Broker hasn't killed her yet.

The Illusive man is a manipulative bastard, and it makes sense he'd want Shepard away from Liara if she has access to a lot of info that could possibly incriminate him. It seems a bit forced to be sure, but it's the best explanation I've heard thus far.
They could also do a whole lot with her internal conflict in this case: she could desperately want to go with Shepard, but not be able to abandon the quest and especially not be able to leave Cerberus' protection. If she IS working for Cerberus and her contacts are related to Cerberus, the Shadow Broker would probably LOVE to torture her for lots of info. It also explains why Nyxeris would spy on her instead of kill her - it's much more useful for the Shadow Broker to try and get info on Cerberus than it would be to whack her.

The would really be an interesting twist and explain quite some things for example the whole bugged office excuse.
I could definitly see Liara doing this out of the need to protect herself from the Shadow Broker,but I'm a bit unsure what TIM would get out of this setting her up as an info broker on Illium.