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[Noxis6]

Lizardviking wrote...
A comic dedicated to Jacob?
Mass effect: Priiize

I know he is tainted by the whole priiize thing now,but the point is the comic would have worked with Miranda and Jacob as leading character too

[Erinlana]

Noxis6 wrote...

Erinlana wrote...
Yeah discovering her at a dig site would be a very touching way to re-unite.. and even visiting her there & what would be even more understandable would be that she couldnt come because she had so much prothean tech to study..

i would have been more than happy with that .. atleast you know she isnt looking in vain for somone that killed her friend.. did she look for the collectors when they "killed" Shepard .. Um no.. i dont think so anyway i could be wrong.. but i understand some of her motives from the comic.

Well her leading the councils research teams on Illos in process of uncovering something that helps against the incoming invasion would have made sense too,I think they could have still given her a few small quests like Shepard has to help disabling an old prothean defense system or something like that,hell they could have also thrown the SB in it by having some of his agents around trying to steal something for the Collectors or just for profit

As for the comic,well if we are brutally honest with that it was just a way to make quick cash out of the fact that Liara was supposed to be kept out of the game,I would say her role is somewhat interchangeable,I would say Miranda and Jacob would have worked too,which in Jacobs case might have helped the character

"Ahh yess incoming invasion" hehe just kidding .. ok back to serious business..


Yes i agree wih the fact , when on arrival to Iillium that you are informed that Liara is doing well as an information broker but it didnt mention anything about her love for reserch or prothean tech.. it was just dropped i was like O_O.......

But like you said its done and we are stuck with it , but i guess Liara is in the game and she does still Love you in a sence.. once the SB is delt with i hope we get the old Liara back

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Anything that would make Jacob more interresting would be most welcome.



After all, a carbon rod have more personality than him!

[jlb524]

Miranda was already in the comic...they could have expanded out her role and threw Jacob in as someone to aid her in the quest to save Shepard's body.

But no, they needed to give the spot to Liara to provide a reason to keep her on the bench for ME2 (possibly even ME3?)

Modifié par jlb524, 06 mai 2010 - 06:05 .

[Erinlana]

I am going now guys !



Perhaps i will be back later on in the night (night for me anyway)



love ya

[WilliamShatner]

Lizardviking wrote...

Anything that would make Jacob more interresting would be most welcome.

After all, a carbon rod have more personality than him!

Hey, don't insult the rod! 

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Anything that would make Jacob more interresting would be most welcome.

After all, a carbon rod have more personality than him!

Hey, don't insult the rod! 

Comparing the rod to jacob is pretty insulting for the rod.

To be honest. I hope Bioware will carry on "the priiize" joke to every other bioware game, like the refund guy.

[Noxis6]

jlb524 wrote...

Miranda was already in the comic...they could have expanded out her role and threw Jacob in as someone to aid her in the quest to save Shepard's body.

But no, they needed to give the spot to Liara to provide a reason to keep her on the bench for ME2 (possibly even ME3?)

As said there were other ways to achieve keeping Liara out of ME2 ways that would ahve felt way more natural then what we got in the end,well if they want to keep her out of the squad until the series ends though I guess the way the started her on is perfect for that

As for the comic as said Miranda and Jacob would have worked too,the story might have been told in a different way but it could have been done

[Marcin K]

it's Liara pic time:

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

I personally have no interest in seeing Liara as an antagonist for the same reason I have no interest in seeing her in a supporting NPC role: doesnt allow the player enough time and interaction to make it a satisfying conclusion.

This isnt an action game romance between two characters. This is supposed to be an RPG romance.

I personally wont be accepting anything less than a squadmate role. Its the only thing that I think will allow Shepard and Liara to come together again realistically, which is by spending time together talking on a number of occasions.

If one of the theories is true, and that what we got in ME2 was a crappy reset so that Liara can be a romanceable squadmate for everyone in ME3, she had better get some major dialogue to compensate for that.

None of this "3 weak conversations and a brief, tame lovescene" crap that folks lapped up in ME2. I want something along the same lines as ME1, with some hefty conversations that progress in tandem with the main plot and the romance actually getting some acknowledgement from parts of the plot.

Modifié par Dinkamus_Littlelog, 06 mai 2010 - 06:21 .

[Noxis6]

Somebody1003 wrote...

I hope she at least gets a new office then.

Maybe she picks up smoking too:whistle:

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...


None of this "3 weak conversations and a brief, tame lovescene" crap that folks lapped up in ME2. I want something along the same lines as ME1, with some hefty conversations that progress in tandem with the main plot and the romance actually getting some acknowledgement from parts of the plot.

Were any of the ME1 romances acknowleged by anyone else in ME1? I don't think they were. This is something that i would critisize all the ME romances for, that and they have no reaction to you being a renegade or paragon.

[OrbitalWings]

Random thing from moi....

Way before we knew about Liara's role in ME2 but just after we knew roughly what happened at the start of the game, I had the idea that we'd find her at a dig site.

I imagined a scene where she had gotten into trouble with either pirates or some sort of lifeforms. And by this point she's hiding on some sort of high ground with only a pistol. She's tired, her biotics are weak, and she's nearly beaten.

And then just at the last minute, the Normandy appears hovering low over the site, kicking up all sorts of dust and/or foliage. Obiously Liara is plenty shocked to see the rebuilt ship, and then the cargobay door opens, and Shepard is standing at the edge of it, his/her hand outstretched towards Liara.

Would have been more than badass.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Were any of the ME1 romances acknowleged by anyone else in ME1? I don't think they were. This is something that i would critisize all the ME romances for, that and they have no reaction to you being a renegade or paragon.

Nah, a Renegade FemShep can romance Kaidan and harden him up, and a Paragon DudeShep can romance Ashley and make her more tolerant to other species. Liara will inquire as to whether Shepard has any feelings for the human squadmate before she expresses her attraction, and both Ashley and Kaidan will talk about Shepard and Liara's romance. Plus you have the confrontation scene too.

I know you can persuade the human LI to swicht viewpoint, but what I'm thinking is more in line with that they have difrent reactions towards depending on how much P/R you are.

The best way i could make an example of what i mean, is like this. Let's just say that you are romancing Liara in ME1 but towards the end you become more and more renegade, and towards the end she could be slightly disgusted by Shepard and wants nothing to do with him.

And what i mean by acknowlegdement by other characters. I mean acknowlegded by characters who are not LI options. I know Kelly and Joker does it, but i wish more did.

"EDIT" Another thing that completly broke my immersion in the game. Is that NOBODY in the entire game EVER comments on Shepards scars if he's renegade. You would think that Liara and the virmire survivor would have a small comment to see their former lover/friend looking like the human equlivant of Saren.

Modifié par Lizardviking, 06 mai 2010 - 06:42 .

[Marcin K]

Somebody1003 wrote...

Noxis6 wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

I hope she at least gets a new office then.

Maybe she picks up smoking too:whistle:

Is that what youd want her to do?

Would remind me of TIM.

NO MORE SMOKING NO MORE TIM:ph34r::ph34r::ph34r::ph34r:

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

I know you can persuade the human LI to swicht viewpoint, but what I'm thinking is more in line with that they have difrent reactions towards depending on how much P/R you are.

The best way i could make an example of what i mean, is like this. Let's just say that you are romancing Liara in ME1 but towards the end you become more and more renegade, and towards the end she could be slightly disgusted by Shepard and wants nothing to do with him.

And what i mean by acknowlegdement by other characters. I mean acknowlegded by characters who are not LI options. I know Kelly and Joker does it, but i wish more did.

Selecting Renegade responses to Liara though does have an effect. It prevents the love scene from occuring, and the relationship isn't as smooth as it is if you pick Paragon options.

For example, if you shout at Liara during the locker scene, and tell her to go away, it does have a negative impact on the romance. I believe Liara won't visit Shepard's cabin the night before Ilos.

It may not be as extensive as what you described, that Liara gets disgusted with Shepard, but there are some effects there.

But what you are talking about is when you are activly changing/evolving the relationship. What i want is the relationship change in a more passive way too. I use my same example again.

Let's say you killed all the colonist on Feros. Before the mission you talked to Liara and she told you she was interrested in you, but after the mission she is slightly sickend by Shepard's action.

What I'm trying to say is that i also want the relationship to evolve in other ways than directly doing something with the LI option (like talking with them) but also have them react to things that are not related to them.

[IndigoWolfe]

I can't believe I forgot to say something about the 1000 page mark hit!



Ahem;

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Wow! My first duble post ever. I'm so awesome!

Modifié par Lizardviking, 06 mai 2010 - 06:53 .

[Goodwood]

IndigoWolfe wrote...

I can't believe I forgot to say something about the 1000 page mark hit!

Ahem;

Good old Calvin & Hobbes -- T-Rexes in Tomcats!