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#25701
bjdbwea

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For a good writer, it's always "easy" to come up with a plot, or at least it seems so the the audience. Then he did a good job. I'm absolutely not saying they should make Liara evil now, in fact if they did so without any chance to redeem her former self, I would probably not buy ME 3 at all. It was merely an example how a drastic change in character can be made to work, and work well. Fortunately Anakin, too, was redeemed in the end, as it should be.

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Well, for the way Star Wars was written, it was even easier since the writers already knew what the end result was. Writing back story is always easier than having to imagine everything and come up with the end result.

True Anakin did find redemption in the end, but not before he was able to hunt the Jedi to near extinction and help Palpatine's Empire decimate a good portion of the Galaxy. The price of his redemption was very high.

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But at some point someone had to come up with the end result too. That's what you have to do when writing a trilogy. To me, it always sounded that BioWare did have their trilogy outlined. By now I don't really believe that anymore. But they certainly should have. Then they'd have known where to go with Liara too, and it would have been "easier" to write her role properly.

To be precise, I do believe the writers had their trilogy outlined - and I'm sure it was very good - but I think they were forced to make significant changes since.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 07 mai 2010 - 07:37 .


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I actually think the whole "turning to the dark side" arc is going to be completely averted with Liara. When you first enter her office and when you speak to Liara intially, I think BioWare deliberately directed and wrote her scenes so that the player and viewer would jump to conclusions, and make an assumption that it will be the case with Liara, that she's turning evil or something. However, based on what Liara says and after certain revelations in her dialogue and with analysis, it seems to me that it's not their intention with Liara at all, and that she's not going to the "dark side", but she's merely hurt, sad, guilty and tormented, and fully aware of the things she's doing and absolutely hating her job, but only doing so because she sees it as a necessity. It's different, it seems to me that they intentionally mislead the player at first with Liara for dramatic effect, before then revealing that a "dark side" Liara is not the case at all, and it's something completely different and alot deeper than that.



Also, the whole thing is a little tired and overdone now. Aribeth and Bastila have already been made to suffer this arc, but I don't think Liara will either.

#25705
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I have been away from the forums for a bit so I may have missed but has there been any info on the rumored Liara DLC? I figured if anyone would know it would be in this thread.

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Nastrod wrote...

I have been away from the forums for a bit so I may have missed but has there been any info on the rumored Liara DLC? I figured if anyone would know it would be in this thread.


Nope, no news on the Liara DLC sadly.

There is apparently going to be an announcement of some "substantial" DLC next week, though. Make of that what you will.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Nastrod wrote...

I have been away from the forums for a bit so I may have missed but has there been any info on the rumored Liara DLC? I figured if anyone would know it would be in this thread.


Nope, no news on the Liara DLC sadly.

There is apparently going to be an announcement of some "substantial" DLC next week, though. Make of that what you will.

Well hopefully it will be about that. I heard the last comic is coming out soon so just maybe. Thx for letting me know :)

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The last comic came out about a month ago (physical release), it's being put on iTunes very soon. I wouldn't hold you breath that the 'substantial' DLC next week will be the Liara DLC, I'm thinking it'll be some new N7 missions (i'm willing to be proved wrong though).

Modifié par morrie23, 07 mai 2010 - 10:35 .


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hi all:)

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#25710
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Hey guys ^_^




#25711
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Marcin R wrote...

hi all:)
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Marcin :D !!! How are you ^^

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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Fanfic time...

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5951295/1/

Briliant! Keep it coming.

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yorkj86 wrote...

Permission granted.   Behold!

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really nice, can you say who it is that is doing this commission. it looks like really nice work.Image IPB

Modifié par Shadowcat101, 07 mai 2010 - 11:36 .


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Love this Liara video ^_^ !!

#25715
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Erinlana wrote...



Love this Liara video ^_^ !!


I just finish mass effect 1 with my second char (female genre)

and this time i chose Liara :P:P:P

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I forgot to comment on MDK's fanfic and york's commissioned fanart earlier on. They're both brilliant, I love the contented and loving look on Liara's face in the picture. Beautiful.



Really interested in seeing the new Freya/Liara canon, MDK. Particularly as I know of a couple of the pics that are in the pipeline. They're going to look absolutely gorgeous!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I forgot to comment on MDK's fanfic and york's commissioned fanart earlier on. They're both brilliant, I love the contented and loving look on Liara's face in the picture. Beautiful.

Really interested in seeing the new Freya/Liara canon, MDK. Particularly as I know of a couple of the pics that are in the pipeline. They're going to look absolutely gorgeous!



I wish i could be as artistic as mdk & york , i have so many ideas that i'd loveto try out Image IPB

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Erinlana wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

I forgot to comment on MDK's fanfic and york's commissioned fanart earlier on. They're both brilliant, I love the contented and loving look on Liara's face in the picture. Beautiful.

Really interested in seeing the new Freya/Liara canon, MDK. Particularly as I know of a couple of the pics that are in the pipeline. They're going to look absolutely gorgeous!



I wish i could be as artistic as mdk & york , i have so many ideas that i'd loveto try out Image IPB


Yes, those two are really talented :happy:.

I too have many ideas about my own fanfiction but sadly writen English (which is not my native language) is too big barrier for me to actually express in full scale what's on my mind :(.

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Erinlana wrote...
I wish i could be as artistic as mdk & york , i have so many ideas that i'd loveto try out Image IPB


Well I'm always open to art ideas if you want to suggest any :)

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If you want something sensual, then how about....ummmm....Freya and Liara showering together!

#25721
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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Erinlana wrote...
I wish i could be as artistic as mdk & york , i have so many ideas that i'd loveto try out Image IPB


Well I'm always open to art ideas if you want to suggest any :)



I was kinda thinking of a marriage scene with Liara & Shepard...

and another where they were laughing together too Image IPB

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

If you want something sensual, then how about....ummmm....Freya and Liara showering together!


Heh....you have no idea how long I've been planning that....

Erinlana wrote...

I was kinda thinking of a marriage scene
with Liara & Shepard...

and another where they were laughing
together too ../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png


A fair few other people have suggested this too.....I'll definately have to add it to the to-do list

Modifié par Metal-Dragon-Kiryu, 07 mai 2010 - 12:13 .


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Marriage scene is a very popular idea ;) Nice choice, Erinlana! Can't wait for all this new liara artwork to come in ^_^

#25724
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I think I'm finally going to follow through with my idea I had a while ago of doing the line-art of all my upcoming pics. I still have commissions to do, and I'm guessing those who've asked for them are getting a bit impatient with me now - especially considering I still have an online presence.

So expect a big line-art dump later today...

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Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Heh....you have no idea how long I've been planning that....


:o

That'll look brilliant when it eventually materialises!

But I'm looking forward to the other Liara pics you've got in the pipeline, particularly the one I've suggested. :happy:

Modifié par LesEnfantsTerribles, 07 mai 2010 - 12:31 .