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#27701
Nozybidaj

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jlb524 wrote...

The whole thing just smells like a plot hole and bad writing to me!!


If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.....its probably a duck.

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Liara is looking up to incoming DLC....;)

#27703
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Regarding the reason as to why the Shadow Broker is only observing Liara, and not killing her outright, I really do think and hope it is because of the data cache that Liara is now in possession of that details the full extent of the SB's deal with the Collectors, and that Liara is fully aware of how much the SB could possibly be assisting and the Reapers. The SB is desperate to recover this data, and can't kill Liara because without her he'll never be able to locate it.

I hope they give this whole arc some depth.


I would like to believe the SB has backups for his data,but beyond that he had two years for it,if this cache should be brought up ever again,but the point is two years and Liara was alone Shepard is a corpse the old team is gone she has noone to protect her or anything and he just lets her go and doesnt even put a bounty on her head thats just unrealistic even the Collectors put out bountys for the stuff they want
Besides I dont get whats so dangerous about knowing that the Shadow broker made a deal with the Collectors,hes known to sell to the highest bidder and its not like he was the first to make one besides the Collectors pay well
As for the whole working with the reapers thing I dont know,I'm more leaning to it being just another case of lazy writing since one thing is sure they dont have put a lot of ressources into Liara
And otherwise its lack of exposition

But in the end the character assasination has been done and it now comes down to either ressurection or dancing on the grave and as I said my money is on dancing or even worse since there are worse things you can do on grave then dance on it

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Noxis6 wrote...

But in the end the character assasination has been done and it now comes down to either ressurection or dancing on the grave and as I said my money is on dancing or even worse since there are worse things you can do on grave then dance on it


That's what worries me the most, just how far are they going to take this.  I'd rather they just left Liara alone, forgot about her, and didn't do a single in game reference to her rather than continue the path they are taking.

#27705
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Bioware on Liara:



Sup dog, we heard you like Liara. So we darkened her and changed her personality so you can complain about the changes to Liara while admiring Liara while we rake in the cash.

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The Shadow Broker would let Liara go because if he kills her, he has absolutely no chance of recovering that data. Liara has probably hidden it away somewhere that she only knows. If Liara is killed, then that knowledge dies with her. He needs to be subtle, to use espionage. That's why he placed Nyxeris there, to covertly hunt for the data and the location in which Liara is keeping it.



Regarding the actual nature of the data, it's not so much as recovering it for himself, but to stop other parties from acquiring it. It may contain extremely sensitive information that could weaken his empire and position, and he can't run the risk of it remaining in someone else's hands. He needs to tie up all loose ends, and that means recovering that data from Liara.

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Erinlana

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Hey guys ! ,





Here's hoping for new Liara dlc tba soon ^_^


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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

The Shadow Broker would let Liara go because if he kills her, he has absolutely no chance of recovering that data. Liara has probably hidden it away somewhere that she only knows. If Liara is killed, then that knowledge dies with her. He needs to be subtle, to use espionage. That's why he placed Nyxeris there, to covertly hunt for the data and the location in which Liara is keeping it.

Regarding the actual nature of the data, it's not so much as recovering it for himself, but to stop other parties from acquiring it. It may contain extremely sensitive information that could weaken his empire and position, and he can't run the risk of it remaining in someone else's hands. He needs to tie up all loose ends, and that means recovering that data from Liara.


As I sais there are still the two years and Liara was more vulnerable then she is now,where he seemingly didnt bother to do anything no bounty not sending out his enforcer nothing
Besides if that data is really that vital capture her and interogate her I would say there are ways to get knowledge out of people that are not really that lethal like I dont know asari maybe or drugs we dont know about
And if you really want to go the reaper puppet route it would have been simple to capture Liara and indoctrinate her to get the data

But in the end I have my doubts that the cache will play any role,the chances are higher that the SB just gets reduced to a target with a name for a DLC mission and they have Liara take over or something
At this point I really expect everything regarding Liara from handing her flower to having to put a bullet in her head,not that I want it but as I said at this point you really can expect everything

The only thing that seems sure for now is Shepards reaction to it :mellow:

#27709
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Posting this link about new dlc information i found in a thread , if it hasn't been posted here yet Image IPB

http://uk.gamespot.c...3&mode=previews

Modifié par Erinlana, 13 mai 2010 - 04:13 .


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Hopefully in the Liara DLC if we get the ability to comfort and console Liara, and rekindle the romance, Shepard will at last not be like :mellow: but will act a little more intimately to Liara, especially when she opens her heart.

I don't think I'll be able to handle Shepard acting like an emotionally deprived stone again.

#27711
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lol, Overlord. Exactly what I expected!
And since this is what I expected, I am not depressed or upset at all.

Like I have been saying for months, there is no Liara DLC. The previousely hinted at expansion is where we will see some minor devlopment of Liara and Ash/Kaiden.

And since this didn't upset me, it just makes my birthday that much better! Image IPB

Sorry Les, I'm pretty confident we won't be getting your deep emotional content.Image IPB

#27712
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Liara DLC = 95% shooting SB minions. 5 % story content...



That's grim Mass Effect reality.

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It's your birthday Sunnie.........Well I have a present for you, tell me when you want it!

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Happy BDay Sunnie!



It's like, everyone's birthday today.



About DLC, I don't even expect anything related to Liara anymore. I think will get more of the same: weapons/armor or little 2 hour combat heavy missions acting as Cerberus' lackey. The Liara stuff will be dealt with in ME3. They are already working on ME3, so they probably aren't going to put the resources into making the story-driven Liara DLC/expansion that we want.

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Cartims wrote...

It's your birthday Sunnie.........Well I have a present for you, tell me when you want it!

Well, that sounds enticing! Image IPB

 Let me finish my coffee and wake up!Image IPB

Wait, aren't you supposed to be @ the beach?

Modifié par Sunnie22, 13 mai 2010 - 04:43 .


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I will be anywhere you want!

#27717
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Asheer_Khan wrote...

Liara DLC = 95% shooting SB minions. 5 % story content...

That's grim Mass Effect reality.


I feel compelled to point out that this was not the case with the Kasumi DLC. The action/story ratio in that was more like 60/40. And the Overlord DLC is said to have emphasis on storytelling as well.

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Erinlana

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Hopefully in the Liara DLC if we get the ability to comfort and console Liara, and rekindle the romance, Shepard will at last not be like :mellow: but will act a little more intimately to Liara, especially when she opens her heart.

I don't think I'll be able to handle Shepard acting like an emotionally deprived stone again.



Yes i agree , i am just dieing for Both Liara & Shepard to just open up fully to each other and let it all out , it will probaly make me cry lmao Image IPB

#27719
Asheer_Khan

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IndigoWolfe wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

Liara DLC = 95% shooting SB minions. 5 % story content...

That's grim Mass Effect reality.


I feel compelled to point out that this was not the case with the Kasumi DLC. The action/story ratio in that was more like 60/40. And the Overlord DLC is said to have emphasis on storytelling as well.


Sorry to sound like Unfaithful Thomas but "I will believe when i will see" that DLC<_<.

On the other hand i think that "Overlord" DLC will actually gives us indication in what way Liara DLC might go.

#27720
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Sunnie have Birthday that's a great news?


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I wish i can give her a gift...


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One day i will find proper gift, and for now Happy Birthday Sunnie :wizard::D:wizard:

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Sunnie

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Aww, thanks Asheer!

#27722
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Sunnie22 wrote...

Aww, thanks Asheer!


You welcome :lol:

#27723
IndigoWolfe

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Aha, Happy Birthday, Sunnie! May you continue to have a positive, often downright bubbly, outlook on things and keep the air of just enough skeptisism in regards to DLC to avoid disappointment.

And of course, there's someone else who wants me to write "Happy Birthday, Sunnie! You are one year closer to death. Why don't you have some cake and speed the process up? Image IPB" But I don't think I will.

Image IPB ... wait a minute...

Modifié par IndigoWolfe, 13 mai 2010 - 04:56 .


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Sunnie

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lol Indigo! Thanks! I think...

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About the Liara DLC, just remember, sometimes things get planned then canceled, or turned into something else. For all we know, the Liara DLC was meant to be in ME2, but then cut and was saved for future DLC, then changed to being in ME3, etc. Or sometimes things get done, but you have to release things on a scheduled time, so things come in a certain wave. Example: Pinnacle Station probably wouldn't have been so bad if it came out first, then Bring Down the Sky 3 months later. Instead, we go the great BDTS first, then Pinnacle a year or 2 later.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 13 mai 2010 - 05:08 .