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[muskettman87]

SP One Nineteen wrote...

Overlord?

The new DLC

[JaylaClark]

SP One Nineteen wrote...

Overlord?

The new DLC coming in June.  Which a few people got their hopes up as being for Liara -- okay, I did, slightly, though I took a page from Nozy's book and reminded myself "If it comes out now it will be crap, and better no Liara DLC than bad Liara DLC" a few times, and that pretty well cured me.  That, and that Mac Walters interview that vaguely mentions tie-in DLC to Redemption coming late this year.

Truth be told, it looks about like what I expected, and as I expected, I can say that if a few people say it's a fun set of missions, I may pick it up.  Then again, I still think I'm in a minority on this thread who can say they had little or no problems with the gameplay, just thought that large parts of the story sucked donkey balls.

EDIT -- I am kind of amazed that the last three words didn't get filtered.

Modifié par JaylaClark, 14 mai 2010 - 12:47 .

[mmmu]

M0rf3usTHEbEST wrote...

mmmu wrote...
My girlfriend just uploaded a drawing she did starring our very much beloved blue beauty Liara!
The picture is available at the deviantart site, go have a look!



http://viannaverena....soni-163810240 
^ Click the link for a larger version !!

Nice One 

Hoorah and hey! Thanks for the compliment!
Maybe more work to come in the future... 

[jlb524]

JaylaClark wrote...

Then again, I still think I'm in a minority on this thread who can say they had little or no problems with the gameplay, just thought that large parts of the story sucked donkey balls.

EDIT -- I am kind of amazed that the last three words didn't get filtered.

By themselves, those words aren't bad.

The story is what I have the most beef with...the gameplay is there, but I judge the game more by it's 'emotional engagement' factor and storyline.  I was not engaged emotionally.

[muskettman87]

jlb524 wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

Then again, I still think I'm in a minority on this thread who can say they had little or no problems with the gameplay, just thought that large parts of the story sucked donkey balls.

EDIT -- I am kind of amazed that the last three words didn't get filtered.

By themselves, those words aren't bad.

The story is what I have the most beef with...the gameplay is there, but I judge the game more by it's 'emotional engagement' factor and storyline.  I was not engaged emotionally.

Agreed, I still get goose bumps when I play ME1, more specifically Ilos and the Citadel battle. I don't get that with ME2 at any point.

[JaylaClark]

jlb524 wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

*minor snip

By themselves, those words aren't bad.

The story is what I have the most beef with...the gameplay is there, but I judge the game more by it's 'emotional engagement' factor and storyline.  I was not engaged emotionally.

It's odd, because I was engaged emotionally ... occasionally.  The main storyline was a big giant 'fail' on that, and Liara's situation is only part of the reason.  As mentioned before, my Sole Survivor Shepard really ... never got the chance to rip TIM a new one, and there are so very few ways to not fully support an organization that was established as evil, not to mention all the nice people working for the happy little terrorists... the whiplash I get from trying to put both views in my mind at the same time practically left bruises.  It's almost like they had two different writers...:innocent:

[JamieCOTC]

muskettman87 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

JaylaClark wrote...

Then again, I still think I'm in a minority on this thread who can say they had little or no problems with the gameplay, just thought that large parts of the story sucked donkey balls.

EDIT -- I am kind of amazed that the last three words didn't get filtered.

By themselves, those words aren't bad.

The story is what I have the most beef with...the gameplay is there, but I judge the game more by it's 'emotional engagement' factor and storyline.  I was not engaged emotionally.

Agreed, I still get goose bumps when I play ME1, more specifically Ilos and the Citadel battle. I don't get that with ME2 at any point.

Agreed.  The Citadel battle was amazing, w/ all the ships and Shep able to paragon or renagade Saren at the end.  Quite awesome.  ME2's ending is somewhat anti-climatic. 

[TMA LIVE]

Here's something to think about:

Based on what Liara tells us, the Union with you creates a life bond which is supposed to even transcend death, and that they'll always be together.

So what happens when one of them dies, and then comes back from the grave?

I image, whatever is happening to Liara, it's driving her mad. It's probably already making her have second thoughts on all her beliefs. Thinking back to how Liara reacts to you, apart of me thinks, somewhere in her mind, one sentence is repeating over and over, driving her insane:

He should be dead.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 14 mai 2010 - 02:01 .

[muskettman87]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's something to think about:

Based on what Liara tells us, the Union with you creates a life bond which is supposed to even transcend death, and that they'll always be together.

So what happens when one of them dies, and then comes back from the grave?

I image, whatever is happening to Liara, it's driving her mad. It's probably already making her have second thoughts on all her beliefs. Thinking back to how Liara reacts to you, apart of me thinks, somewhere in her mind, one sentence is repeating over and over, driving her insane:

He should be dead.

Its quite possible thats what they were trying to get across.

[EvilIguana966]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

EvilIguana966 wrote...

I don't get why it's terrible.  The game would be boring if every room had the same lighting.  Illium just happens to make blue look paler than it would in sunlight.  Now there are some instances where Liara, like all the characters, looks wierd with the way the light hits her face and that is indeed a case of the game engine failing to properly simulate the light.  But for the most part the scene looks just fine. 

Surely you must have seen how the terrible lighting in Liara's office affects her badly, particularly when she's sat at her desk? Take a look at this image, for example:



There's about three or four different light sources that mix together and really mess with the lighting and colouring of Liara's face. There's the blue light that shines on her from behind and covers the right half of her face, there's a strange white light that comes from Liara's right that causes the other half of her face to go that powdery blue colour. There's the orange light from her computer that creates an orange glow on her chin. Also, for some reason there's always a dark shadow that obscures half of her face.

The lighting is awful, and really affects Liara's appearance and messes with her skin colour, as you can see from the picture above.

That pic is kind of what I was getting at when I said sometimes characters look wierd.  This is hardly limited to just Liara though, and isn't specifically the result of poor level design.  It isn't even limited to this game or this game engine.  The point I was trying to make was that I think people are obsessing over the lighting in this room as if it were some evil scheme to make their favorite character look bad.  It's almost like people want Liara to be exempt from the lighting algorithms so she is always the same apparent shade of blue regardless of the ambient lighting.  I like the fact that the game has varied environments and that people do look different depending on what their surroundings are.  Quite simply, while there is always room for improvement, I don't think there was anything particularly bad about the whole scene from a visual perspective.  It's just not a bright vibrant place. 

[Andaius20]

Hello Liara people

[jlb524]

Hello! What is up with that pic?

[TMA LIVE]

muskettman87 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's something to think about:

Based on what Liara tells us, the Union with you creates a life bond which is supposed to even transcend death, and that they'll always be together.

So what happens when one of them dies, and then comes back from the grave?

I image, whatever is happening to Liara, it's driving her mad. It's probably already making her have second thoughts on all her beliefs. Thinking back to how Liara reacts to you, apart of me thinks, somewhere in her mind, one sentence is repeating over and over, driving her insane:

He should be dead.

Its quite possible thats what they were trying to get across.

Probably also why non-romance Shepard is more embraced, and why romance Shepard isn't.

[Andaius20]

jlb524 wrote...

Hello! What is up with that pic?

playing around with This

Modifié par Andaius20, 14 mai 2010 - 02:32 .

[jlb524]

TMA LIVE wrote...

muskettman87 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's something to think about:

Based on what Liara tells us, the Union with you creates a life bond which is supposed to even transcend death, and that they'll always be together.

So what happens when one of them dies, and then comes back from the grave?

I image, whatever is happening to Liara, it's driving her mad. It's probably already making her have second thoughts on all her beliefs. Thinking back to how Liara reacts to you, apart of me thinks, somewhere in her mind, one sentence is repeating over and over, driving her insane:

He should be dead.

Its quite possible thats what they were trying to get across.

Probably also why non-romance Shepard is more embraced, and why romance Shepard isn't.

That's true!

Non-romance

Liara:  Shepard!!  *big happy hug*  Yay!

Romance

Liara:  Shepard:!  *kiss* *head-shake*  Nvm.

[jlb524]

Andaius20 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Hello! What is up with that pic?

playing around with This

Oh, I see it now!  Cool.

[muskettman87]

TMA LIVE wrote...

muskettman87 wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's something to think about:

Based on what Liara tells us, the Union with you creates a life bond which is supposed to even transcend death, and that they'll always be together.

So what happens when one of them dies, and then comes back from the grave?

I image, whatever is happening to Liara, it's driving her mad. It's probably already making her have second thoughts on all her beliefs. Thinking back to how Liara reacts to you, apart of me thinks, somewhere in her mind, one sentence is repeating over and over, driving her insane:

He should be dead.

Its quite possible thats what they were trying to get across.

Probably also why non-romance Shepard is more embraced, and why romance Shepard isn't.

hmm,I think you have a excellent point there.  

Modifié par muskettman87, 14 mai 2010 - 02:39 .

[Goodwood]

EvilIguana966 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

EvilIguana966 wrote...

I don't get why it's terrible.  The game would be boring if every room had the same lighting.  Illium just happens to make blue look paler than it would in sunlight.  Now there are some instances where Liara, like all the characters, looks wierd with the way the light hits her face and that is indeed a case of the game engine failing to properly simulate the light.  But for the most part the scene looks just fine. 

Surely you must have seen how the terrible lighting in Liara's office affects her badly, particularly when she's sat at her desk? Take a look at this image, for example:

<snip>

There's about three or four different light sources that mix together and really mess with the lighting and colouring of Liara's face. There's the blue light that shines on her from behind and covers the right half of her face, there's a strange white light that comes from Liara's right that causes the other half of her face to go that powdery blue colour. There's the orange light from her computer that creates an orange glow on her chin. Also, for some reason there's always a dark shadow that obscures half of her face.

The lighting is awful, and really affects Liara's appearance and messes with her skin colour, as you can see from the picture above.

That pic is kind of what I was getting at when I said sometimes characters look wierd.  This is hardly limited to just Liara though, and isn't specifically the result of poor level design.  It isn't even limited to this game or this game engine.  The point I was trying to make was that I think people are obsessing over the lighting in this room as if it were some evil scheme to make their favorite character look bad.  It's almost like people want Liara to be exempt from the lighting algorithms so she is always the same apparent shade of blue regardless of the ambient lighting.  I like the fact that the game has varied environments and that people do look different depending on what their surroundings are.  Quite simply, while there is always room for improvement, I don't think there was anything particularly bad about the whole scene from a visual perspective.  It's just not a bright vibrant place. 

A very good point. Goodwood didn't really want to say anything before, but Evilguana brings up a valid point. It seems rather trite to fret about the environment, when for the most part the various lighting and ambiances on most levels are quite realistic. To be sure, they're much more immersive than most of the levels in ME1, particularly the "uncharted worlds".

[SP One Nineteen]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Here's something to think about:

Based on what Liara tells us, the Union with you creates a life bond which is supposed to even transcend death, and that they'll always be together.

So what happens when one of them dies, and then comes back from the grave?

I image, whatever is happening to Liara, it's driving her mad. It's probably already making her have second thoughts on all her beliefs. Thinking back to how Liara reacts to you, apart of me thinks, somewhere in her mind, one sentence is repeating over and over, driving her insane:

He should be dead.

could you explain this a little more, i don't understand what you are trying to get across.

[Goodwood]

Goodwood is upset that this thread has paged. He proposes a new topic: who would win in a fight, Liara or Wasea?

[muskettman87]

Goodwood wrote...

Goodwood is upset that this thread has paged. He proposes a new topic: who would win in a fight, Liara or Wasea?

I don't know man, I love Liara but Waseas pretty badass.Her facial markings make me giddy.

EDIT: On the hole Wasea probably has reach while Liara has flexability, so I call it a draw. Thoughts?

Modifié par muskettman87, 14 mai 2010 - 04:29 .

[JamieCOTC]

Goodwood wrote...

Goodwood is upset that this thread has paged. He proposes a new topic: who would win in a fight, Liara or Wasea?

I dunno. Comic Book Liara would splatter her all across the room w/ one blast, but game Liara might have some problems.  Then again, Liara has Shepard to back her up in game. 

Modifié par JamieCOTC, 14 mai 2010 - 04:31 .

[Sunnie]

Well, so far today has been a really great bday! =D I guess this means I am back ;-)

[Sunnie]

JamieCOTC wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

Goodwood is upset that this thread has paged. He proposes a new topic: who would win in a fight, Liara or Wasea?

I dunno. Comic Book Liara would splatter her all across the room w/ one blast, but game Liara might have some problems.  Then again, Liara has Shepard to back her up in game. 

Yep, Shep would just be all:
swat  "go away flea!

[Goodwood]

Sunnie22 wrote...

Well, so far today has been a really great bday! =D I guess this means I am back ;-)

Here's hoping that you had a happy birthday, Sunnie, and that there'll be many more!

Modifié par Goodwood, 14 mai 2010 - 04:47 .