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Sunnie22 wrote...

With restrained enthusiasm: Hello everyone!


Greetings, Sunnie! Goodwood hopes your day went well!

#28127
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This ones day has gone well enough. This one will not have any complaints currently.
How has that ones day been?

Modifié par Sunnie22, 15 mai 2010 - 04:06 .


#28128
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Goodwood watched Miracle at St. Anna's today. He found it to be quite a gripping film, which caused his eyes to tear up at the end.

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With barely contained laughter: Awwwwww.

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Hey sunnie, good to here your day went well.

#28131
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Sunnie22 wrote...

With barely contained laughter: Awwwwww.


Goodwood thinks that you should give the film a try; if you like WWII films, he thinks you'll like this one.

Oh, and he also thinks that you should settle on a style of speech... :bandit:

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#28132
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I vote Batarian! :P

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This one doesn't care that much for most war movies. This one likes to make love, and not to make war. This one wonders why that one is confused with this ones style of speech.

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Sunnie22 wrote...

This one doesn't care that much for most war movies. This one likes to make love, and not to make war. This one wonders why that one is confused with this ones style of speech.


Goodwood notices that you go from elcor-style to hanar-style with each successive post.

In regards to war films: Goodwood himself would rather make love than war, as well, but understands that war is, unfortunately, inevitable. He doesn't particularly "enjoy" the idea or thought of war, but does think that war films can be the vehicle for conveying deep, personal stories, or for showing how war is not about glory. That said, there are some truly dreadful war films that Goodwood would love to see erased from existance (two examples: Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor and Speilberg's Saving Private Ryan).

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 Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor and Speilberg's Saving Private Ryan).


I can understand Pearl Harbour, but may I ask what you did'nt like about Saving Private Ryan?

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This one would also like to reverse time and prevent those from making Saving Private Ryan. This one believes that film was a a very large mistake.

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Goodwood wrote...

 Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor and Speilberg's Saving Private Ryan).


I can understand Pearl Harbour, but may I ask what you did'nt like about Saving Private Ryan?


After the scenes involving the actual Normandy landings, Goodwood feels that the overall story and feel of the film took a wrong turn at Fourth and Bananas, pulling history and tactics out of the producers' collective arses in a silly attempt to portray "teh reel wor" to as many folks as possible. Historical fiction is fine, but SPR, in Goodwood's opinion, tried too hard to pretend that its fiction was fact.

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indeed pearl harbor was a crap love story instead of anything to actually do with the battle in the pacific.

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Andaius20 wrote...

indeed pearl harbor was a crap love story instead of anything to actually do with the battle in the pacific.


And that's just the tip of the iceberg. Goodwood contends that a proper listing of all the historical inconsistancies, inaccuracies, and outright fabrications present in the film would take longer to hear than the film itself. As an amateur historian and author of historical fiction, he takes great umbrage with the gross liberties that Bay and co. took with the events the film attempts to portray.

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Addendum RE: Saving Private Ryan: After thinking about it, Goodwood now feels that Spielberg and co. were, in effect, "trolling for veterans" -- meaning they were hoping to get loads of reaction from actual WWII veterans who may have watched the film.

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Goodwood wrote...

muskettman87 wrote...

Goodwood wrote...

 Michael Bay's Pearl Harbor and Speilberg's Saving Private Ryan).


I can understand Pearl Harbour, but may I ask what you did'nt like about Saving Private Ryan?


After the scenes involving the actual Normandy landings, Goodwood feels that the overall story and feel of the film took a wrong turn at Fourth and Bananas, pulling history and tactics out of the producers' collective arses in a silly attempt to portray "teh reel wor" to as many folks as possible. Historical fiction is fine, but SPR, in Goodwood's opinion, tried too hard to pretend that its fiction was fact.

The plot was my big issue with it, but overall I found it to be an enjoyable film.Parts would make me teary eyed with a sense of realisim(not plot). In retrospect I must say the best thing to come out of it was Band of Brothers.
I enjoyed The Battle of Britain and The Longest Day way more anyway.On a side note I did enjoy watching Vin Diesel die pretty early in SPR.Image IPB

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Goodwood wrote...

Addendum RE: Saving Private Ryan: After thinking about it, Goodwood now feels that Spielberg and co. were, in effect, "trolling for veterans" -- meaning they were hoping to get loads of reaction from actual WWII veterans who may have watched the film.


Can't argue with that.

#28143
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The plot, yes, but Goodwood cannot help but cringe at the many boneheaded things that Cpt. Miller and his merry men do in the course of the film (like charging a machine gun nest uphill, and including your medic in the assault? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, interrogative, over...). Not only that, but most of the characters are stereotypical apple pie-sh*ting "All American Boys", with the inner-city tough guy, the religious nut (who happens to be the sniper -- nevermind that there were no dedicated snipers in the Rangers during WWII), the farmboy, the naive doofus (the translator) who somehow manages to arrive in France without knowing anything about combat or life in the Army (how the hell did he not know what FUBAR means?!?), et cetera.



And Band of Brothers...don't get Goodwood started on that. What they did to David Webster in that miniseries is well nigh unforgivable.

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Ah,those are all good points that I, embarrassingly did not pick up on.

I think I need a context David Webster?

Edit:Wait, War hero I remember.

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Goodwood doesn't think Webster would have thought of himself as a hero. The main issue is that Webster wrote his own accounts of the war, which his widow published a few years before Mr. Ambrose got his mitts on Easy Company's history. The book is called Parachute Infantry and though it includes some scenes of combat, its main focus is on Army life in general during and just after WWII. It's really a superb first-hand account, in Goodwood's opinion.

Band of Brothers basically takes Webster's experiences and turns them inside out. Webster did not go on the patrol, and while he was a goldbrick in garrison, he was not one to try and get out of action (he transferred into Easy Company from Headquarters Company in order to get into the action and do his part). When he returned to the line at Hagenau, he was greeted warmly by Cpt. Spiers, and was not met with the disdain shown in the series. Quite the opposite, in fact.

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Amused: It's not any better or worse than any other hollywood screenplay of actual war accounts.

With certainty: It won't be the last either.

#28147
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Goodwood agrees with you.

#28148
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This one is glad you agree with it. That one is very informed.

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Ahhhhh, I'm gonna go insane with all the 3rd person/elcor/hanar talk...

At least I'll be able to relate with ME2 Liara better...

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Goodwood apologizes for any accidental impairment of the mental faculties of fellow Liara fans. He offers up an internet cookie as recompense. He also suspects that Sunnie would very much like to thump him over the head... :innocent:

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