A few things to consider regarding Liara's biotics: she's been studying the Protheans for 50 years. Most of her work entailed going out to unexplored planets and scouring ruins. She's had plenty of time to run into mercenaries and such.
What does this mean? It means that while Liara hasn't had advanced biotic training, she's had a lot of experience USING biotics. I wouldn't be surprised if she's also an amp nut, the way some people are gun nuts.
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 06:50
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Goodwood welcomes Ryn back from banishment with a box of bomb-bons!
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 06:57
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Goodwood wrote...
Goodwood welcomes Ryn back from banishment with a box of bomb-bons!
Thanks for the explosive welcome!
I cannot wait to see Liara's biotics in action again. I hope we get a cool cutscene like in the final mission when Jack sends a violent biotic push towards all those collectors. Liara was the most powerful biotic squadmember in ME1. Insanity was a piece o' cake with her on my squad.
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 07:24
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Personally I think the whole Liara is weak thing comes from how her character was,at least I see it at times that people associate being somewhat shy and not uttering death threats in every sentence with being weak while uttering death threats all the time and talking though seems to be associated with being strong
May have been one reason they saw the need to "amp up" Liaras character,at times I really get the feeling that was one of the reason for the assasination of her character in ME2,they just listened to the wrong people
As for Biotics,I'm kind of on the fence when it comes to Liaras power,as asari she is more talented then a human thats for sure,but at times she strikes me as presented too strong esspecially in the comic,it just doesnt fit her "just barely escaped with my own life" line and then you see her plowing through the SBs base without a scratch
Also we know that biotics seem to grow stronger with age and matriarchs are considered the most powerful biotics in the galaxy so it bears the question how strong is Liara compared to them
And on a sidenote do we really know if biotic power can be inherited through genes I never had that impression,but then again most biotic knowledge we have is that about humans
May have been one reason they saw the need to "amp up" Liaras character,at times I really get the feeling that was one of the reason for the assasination of her character in ME2,they just listened to the wrong people
As for Biotics,I'm kind of on the fence when it comes to Liaras power,as asari she is more talented then a human thats for sure,but at times she strikes me as presented too strong esspecially in the comic,it just doesnt fit her "just barely escaped with my own life" line and then you see her plowing through the SBs base without a scratch
Also we know that biotics seem to grow stronger with age and matriarchs are considered the most powerful biotics in the galaxy so it bears the question how strong is Liara compared to them
And on a sidenote do we really know if biotic power can be inherited through genes I never had that impression,but then again most biotic knowledge we have is that about humans
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 08:18
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As far as biotic abilities are concerned, Liara's got to be at least pretty adept because she can hold her own as well as any of the other party members. So she's definitely not a rookiee when it comes to fighting. Of course, when you first find her she doesn't strike one as particularly combat capable and her personality doesn't seem (in ME1) bloodthirsty enough for someone who's killed before.
It's also clear that she's recieved at least some training because although all asari are natural biotics, the Codex says not all of them can actually use their abilities in any substantial way, because they're untrained.
My guess is that Liara has at least some biotic training, perhaps as a form of self-defense. On top of that, as others have said, she may have come upon a situation from time to time when she was forced to defend herself. Considering Benezia's personality it is also not out of the question that Liara was given some small amount of advanced training by her mother before they sort of went their separate ways.
Just a guess though.
Incidentally, I'm gathering support for those who want to see the entire ME1/ME2 team in ME3. While I know not everyone in this thread feels strongly about supporting the characters that overshadowed the cute genius in ME2, I'm eager to gather support where I can. On that note, please consider joining our group.
It's also clear that she's recieved at least some training because although all asari are natural biotics, the Codex says not all of them can actually use their abilities in any substantial way, because they're untrained.
My guess is that Liara has at least some biotic training, perhaps as a form of self-defense. On top of that, as others have said, she may have come upon a situation from time to time when she was forced to defend herself. Considering Benezia's personality it is also not out of the question that Liara was given some small amount of advanced training by her mother before they sort of went their separate ways.
Just a guess though.
Incidentally, I'm gathering support for those who want to see the entire ME1/ME2 team in ME3. While I know not everyone in this thread feels strongly about supporting the characters that overshadowed the cute genius in ME2, I'm eager to gather support where I can. On that note, please consider joining our group.
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:06
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Hey guys ! 
*hugs*
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:08
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Erinlana wrote...
Hey guys !
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GET IT OFF ME!
Nah just kidding.
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:12
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Lizardviking wrote...
Erinlana wrote...
Hey guys !
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GET IT OFF ME!
Nah just kidding.
Lol , I wouldn't blame you , as i am sick at the momment & highly contagious
#28459
Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:13
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Who else is online on this thread anyway?
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:23
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Thoughts on my new avatar?
My thought?
Wish i could get a free Dr.Pebber promo item!
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:24
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Me too, I goggle for my pics to use:pinched:Lizardviking wrote...
My thought?
Wish i could get a free Dr.Pebber promo item!
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:25
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AZ RUSH wrote...
Me too, I goggle for my pics to use:pinched:Lizardviking wrote...
My thought?
Wish i could get a free Dr.Pebber promo item!
Wait!? you google'd that avatar?
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:28
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You can find anything on google if you take the time, I think I searched "funny mass effect pictures" and this was on page 12 or so. I had to crop and scale it before making it my avatar though:PLizardviking wrote...
Wait!? you google'd that avatar?
EDIT: And some enhancing to make the pic look more HD.
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:32
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AZ RUSH wrote...
You can find anything on google if you take the time, I think I searched "funny mass effect pictures" and this was on page 12 or so. I had to crop and scale it before making it my avatar though:PLizardviking wrote...
Wait!? you google'd that avatar?
EDIT: And some enhancing to make the pic look more HD.
I think the avatar looks cool, so i don't know why it's under "funny mass effec pictures"!
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:32
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Lizardviking wrote...
Who else is online on this thread anyway?
I am...am more of a secret watcher then a person to comment
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:33
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:34
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Me either...but I liked it, and it kinda matched my previous one.Lizardviking wrote...
I think the avatar looks cool, so i don't know why it's under "funny mass effec pictures"!
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 09:37
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Just re-posting these incase anyone hasn't seen them
Note.I didn't design the background but cut the image of Liara & femshep that i found and added the header box & title
Now you can have more of Liara on your desktop enjoy
http://i39.tinypic.com/2poxoxw.png
http://i41.tinypic.com/szdi7n.png
Note.I didn't design the background but cut the image of Liara & femshep that i found and added the header box & title
Now you can have more of Liara on your desktop enjoy
http://i39.tinypic.com/2poxoxw.png
http://i41.tinypic.com/szdi7n.png
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 10:39
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Thanks Erin! Your wallpapers look great. It's nice to be able to look at Liara whenever I'm on the computer.
Regarding Liara training and honing her biotic capabilities, that is very much true. I've just listened to the elevator conversation between Liara and Garrus, in which Garrus mistakenly assumes that all asari are naturally very capable and adept (haaa haaa!) with their biotic abilities, to which Liara corrects him and says that she has spent a long time training and honing her biotics. This would have been a necessity for Liara too, as she says herself that she often runs afoul of pirates, slavers, mercenaries and hostile local lifeforms whilst on one of her long expeditions. She needs to be powerful for self-defence.
Regarding Liara training and honing her biotic capabilities, that is very much true. I've just listened to the elevator conversation between Liara and Garrus, in which Garrus mistakenly assumes that all asari are naturally very capable and adept (haaa haaa!) with their biotic abilities, to which Liara corrects him and says that she has spent a long time training and honing her biotics. This would have been a necessity for Liara too, as she says herself that she often runs afoul of pirates, slavers, mercenaries and hostile local lifeforms whilst on one of her long expeditions. She needs to be powerful for self-defence.
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 10:40
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hey all, sadly, today, same as yesterday, my net keeps going ON/OFF, i gotta hold till monday...
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EDIT: GREAT WALLPAPERS!
:pinched:EDIT: GREAT WALLPAPERS!
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 10:52
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Nivenus wrote...
As far as biotic abilities are concerned, Liara's got to be at least pretty adept because she can hold her own as well as any of the other party members. So she's definitely not a rookiee when it comes to fighting. Of course, when you first find her she doesn't strike one as particularly combat capable and her personality doesn't seem (in ME1) bloodthirsty enough for someone who's killed before.
It's also clear that she's recieved at least some training because although all asari are natural biotics, the Codex says not all of them can actually use their abilities in any substantial way, because they're untrained.
My guess is that Liara has at least some biotic training, perhaps as a form of self-defense. On top of that, as others have said, she may have come upon a situation from time to time when she was forced to defend herself. Considering Benezia's personality it is also not out of the question that Liara was given some small amount of advanced training by her mother before they sort of went their separate ways.
Just a guess though.
Incidentally, I'm gathering support for those who want to see the entire ME1/ME2 team in ME3. While I know not everyone in this thread feels strongly about supporting the characters that overshadowed the cute genius in ME2, I'm eager to gather support where I can. On that note, please consider joining our group.
I remember we had a debate in this topic a few weeks back, we discussed how strong Liara was as a biotic compared to the other plotwise.
I think my conclusion was something akin to this.
Morinth>Liara>Samara>Jack>adept shep>vanguard/sentinel shep>wrex>Kaiden/Miri/Thane>Jacob.
There were a few who disagreed with my list, but no matter what we all thought that Liara is pretty high on the list!
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 11:19
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I disagree with that.Lizardviking wrote...
Morinth>Liara>Samara>Jack>adept shep>vanguard/sentinel shep>wrex>Kaiden/Miri/Thane>Jacob.
Jack>Samara>Morinth>Wrex (he's had 1400 years to perfect his biotics)>Liara>rest.
*I didn't put Shep up there because I like to think Shepard's biotic power is up to the player's imagination, some like to role-play that their Shepard is the best in the galaxy (I find that to be a little childish) others prefer to have their Shepard to simply be a above average biotic.
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 11:20
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Marcin R wrote...
hey all, sadly, today, same as yesterday, my net keeps going ON/OFF, i gotta hold till monday...
EDIT: GREAT WALLPAPERS!
Thanks Marcin & Les
And talking about Liara not being able to look after herself , well i don't believe that for a second , she is a worthy squadmate in me1 and very powerful when using her biotics.
She has stated a few times in me1 about protecting herself while at dig sites
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Posté 16 mai 2010 - 11:25
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GodWood wrote...
I disagree with that.Lizardviking wrote...
Morinth>Liara>Samara>Jack>adept shep>vanguard/sentinel shep>wrex>Kaiden/Miri/Thane>Jacob.
Jack>Samara>Morinth>Wrex (he's had 1400 years to perfect his biotics)>Liara>rest.
*I didn't put Shep up there because I like to think Shepard's biotic power is up to the player's imagination, some like to role-play that their Shepard is the best in the galaxy (I find that to be a little childish) others prefer to have their Shepard to simply be a above average biotic.
My list goes after those with the greatest biotic potential, not their current biotic strenght. If i did that then my list would look bit more like yours (with a few changes).
