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Support Liara T'Soni for ME3 - Squadmate and LI

Débuté par Nozybidaj , févr. 18 2010 08:42

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Erinlana
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:33

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jlb524 wrote...

Cartims wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Erinlana wrote...

Can Femshep Romance Kelly... O_O


Depends on how you define, 'romance'.


Oh.......please define it for me.


Well, in game terms, the Kelly romance has no bearing on anything.  You can complete it, and still stay 'faithful' to your old LI.  It's not a romance on par with the others, as far as for the devs taking it seriously.



I am not a fan of kelly , there is somthing about her that i do not like lolImage IPB

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Nozybidaj
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:35

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Erinlana wrote...

I am not a fan of kelly , there is somthing about her that i do not like lolImage IPB


Its the scale itch.

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Jack Package
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:35

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Erinlana wrote...


I am not a fan of kelly , there is somthing about her that i do not like lolImage IPB


It's her red hair! Admit it!


Edit:
Haha, good one Nozy! :pinched:

Modifié par Jack Package, 19 mai 2010 - 05:36 .

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:36

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Erinlana wrote...

I am not a fan of kelly , there is somthing about her that i do not like lolImage IPB

The scale-itch, probably.

EDIT: Bah, Nozybidaj beat me to it!

Modifié par Ecael, 19 mai 2010 - 05:37 .

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:38

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Noxis6 wrote...



Shavon wrote...



@ Noxis6 I just blame Shepard's stoic responses to Miranda's secret control chip. And Miranda? It takes her a bit to come around to things, then she changes her mind/direction. imo.




To me it just seems at times that Shepard can go only two ways angry or apathetic beyond that there is not that much,in any case Shepards writing is overall flawed and lacking

As for Miranda the problem is I dont see her change her mind or direction I see nothing of that she stays the Cerberus cheerleader basicly up until the moment you blow up the base,she might have some symphaties for Shepard for dealing with her sister or she loves him in case of romance,but really I see nothing that tells me that she starts thinking that Cerberus way might be the wrong one to go

Also its not like you can really discuss Cerberus crimes that much with her she basicly gives you her rationalisations of them and Shepard goes



At least with Mordin you could discuss the genophage






I see what you are saying! Th thing is, I have written some fanfic about Miranda, and got in her head somewhat, to do it. That's how I come to those conclusions about her personality. She doesn't display what she's thinking. I see the gradual change of attitude towards Liara in the comic, for example, as something that is very internal. That is why her warmth towards Liara at the end seems so out of place. We don;t see how she changes her opinion towards our lively Asari until that warm gesture. Likewise with Paragonizing Miri. The subtle changes in opinion regarding Cerberus are very internal, gradual, and it takes a loyal Miranda to make the leap from pro-Cerberus to disillusioned with the entire organization. Just my two cents.



I don't want to take away from Liara, so :



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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:39

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@Ecael........not the point!

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Errol Dnamyx
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:40

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Cartims wrote...

@Ecael........not the point!


Ha! Morrigan, finally I have found you!:o

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:42

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*gasp* !!! Kelly. Does. NOT. Have. Scale-itch!!.

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:42

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Ecael wrote...

They don't have to worry about a Mass Effect 4 - and if they did make one, it won't have any of the characters from the trilogy.


No, but they do have to worry about ME3 and dealing with three times (maybe more with Kelly) the possible romance flag combinations.

Even more if they introduce new LIs for ME3.  I don't see why it's a big deal....they write one function to handle this in the one or two places it's needed.  It's not like the romance decision cascades throughout the entire game.  On the other hand, if an individual character has lived or died does.

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Jack Package
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:45

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Shavon wrote...

*gasp* !!! Kelly. Does. NOT. Have. Scale-itch!!.


Of course not, she's lovely!

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:45

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Shavon wrote...

I see what you are saying! Th thing is, I have written some fanfic about Miranda, and got in her head somewhat, to do it. That's how I come to those conclusions about her personality.


You have Miranda fanfic?  Do want!

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:45

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Speaking of character alignment shifts, if they give Shepard the ability to influence Liara in ME3 as I predict then it could be quite compelling. Renegades encourage her to adopt her hardened facade, and to be as ruthless as possible. Paragons will comfort Liara, and help her re-embrace her caring and compassionate true personality. Think of how you could turn Kaidan into a Renegade jerk in ME1, or influence Ash into a Paragon who is tolerant of non-humans.

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Nozybidaj
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:46

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Noxis6 wrote...

As for Miranda the problem is I dont see her change her mind or direction I see nothing of that she stays the Cerberus cheerleader basicly up until the moment you blow up the base


Yeah that was a pretty big "WTF" moment for me.  BW didn't do a very good job with Miranda overall.  Not as bad as they did with Liara, but still.

I was fully expecting, and would have made much more sense, for her to try and stop you at the Collector Base.  If BW wanted her to have this big change of heart at the end they should have showed that gradually throughout the game culminating in what we got at the base.  Instead she remained the Cerberus apologist and staunch supporter through everything right up until BW flipped the light switch on her personality at the end.

I was disappointed throughout the game with Miranda's story.  They good have done some interesting things with it, but if they wanted her to just be the Cerberus Loyalist throughout the game then at least stick with it.  Just another very jarring piece of the story at the end there.

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Ecael
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:48

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Cartims wrote...

@Ecael........not the point!

Ok, Dinkamus.

B)

I apologize for being too harsh in the past (and that goes out to all Liara fans I've argued with, actually).

jlb524 wrote...

Ecael wrote...
They don't have to worry about a Mass Effect 4 - and if they did make one, it won't have any of the characters from the trilogy.

No, but they do have to worry about ME3 and dealing with three times (maybe more with Kelly) the possible romance flag combinations.

Even more if they introduce new LIs for ME3. I don't see why it's a big deal....they write one function to handle this in the one or two places it's needed. It's not like the romance decision cascades throughout the entire game. On the other hand, if an individual character has lived or died does.

They probably don't need to introduce more than 2 new LI's in ME3 when they're bringing the ME1 love interests back. It's likely that it will give people a "second chance" to romance Kaidan, Ashley or Liara again.

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:49

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Shavon wrote...

*gasp* !!! Kelly. Does. NOT. Have. Scale-itch!!.


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Denial is a terrible thing. Better accept the truth or lose your sanity.

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:50

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jlb524 wrote...

Shavon wrote...

I see what you are saying! Th thing is, I have written some fanfic about Miranda, and got in her head somewhat, to do it. That's how I come to those conclusions about her personality.


You have Miranda fanfic?  Do want!


It's coming!  i'll have it ready for BP to beta read soon!

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 05:57

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Lizardviking wrote...

Shavon wrote...

*gasp* !!! Kelly. Does. NOT. Have. Scale-itch!!.


Image IPB
 
Denial is a terrible thing. Better accept the truth or lose your sanity.


:lol::lol:

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 06:02

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Shavon wrote...
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I like this picture.

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Posté 19 mai 2010 - 06:05

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b-but Kelly would never

/sobs

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jlb524
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 06:08

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Mordin brought the scale itch on board....that's why he brought it to Shepard's attention. He figured, Shepard would never suspect him, as he was the one that brought it up in the first place.

#29521
Ecael
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 06:08

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Cartims seems to have left after I called him Dinkamus.

:?

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Jack Package
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 06:09

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Shavon wrote...

b-but Kelly would never
/sobs


Nah, she didn't!

I wonder how Kelly would have commented on Liara. =]

#29523
IndigoWolfe
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 06:11

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Shavon wrote...

b-but Kelly would never
/sobs


There, there... *hug* People like you and I know it ain't true.

#29524
Nozybidaj
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 06:11

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jlb524 wrote...

Mordin brought the scale itch on board....that's why he brought it to Shepard's attention. He figured, Shepard would never suspect him, as he was the one that brought it up in the first place.


Mordin? Really? :?

No, I think everyone is pretty sure who it was, even if they don't want to admit it.

#29525
Asheer_Khan
Posté 19 mai 2010 - 06:12

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I really fail to understand this whole "Kelly and the itch" stuff since there are not a single evidence pointing on her.

I think we could alive quite surprise if would turn out that less expecting person on whole ship (YES Mr Moreau... i am looking at you) have him. <_<
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