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[Ecael]

bjdbwea wrote...

Ecael wrote...

True, but Liara is the only squadmate now to appear in both games (and the whole trilogy, we can assume) that can't die. Also, both Asari squadmates in ME2 kill one another before the final mission, and both have good reasons to leave Shepard, setting up either a new Asari squadmate or Liara's return.

That alone says something about whatever BioWare's cooking up for Liara. She has a better chance than the other 16 squadmates.

All I can answer to that is that I hope you're right. I won't hold my breath though. Not after ME 2, not after the changes inside the company. Yet as I said, even if her role in ME 3 is all we hoped for (and we hope for a lot, including for the writing to be better than that of the companions in ME 2), it would still neither explain nor excuse what they did in ME 2. Every amateur writer could do better if you told him "write me a short role for Liara that explains why she can't join Shepard".

At that point, though, ME2 will be in the past, and you can play ME3 as many times as you wish.

There aren't many people asking BioWare their excuse for not including every new character in the ME2 squad in ME1 (Kasumi, Zaeed, Thane, Jack, Miranda, Jacob, Legion, Samara, Morinth, Mordin), so I'd still say Liara has the edge over the others when it comes to role in the entire trilogy.

[Marcin K]

Lizardviking wrote...

Shavon wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Shavon wrote...

b-but Kelly would never
/sobs

I should have known you couldn't handle the truth.

Who the hell are you?

 

Who are you?

are we going offtopic here? Liara starts to look sad...

let's get back on topic, shall we?

Modifié par Marcin R, 19 mai 2010 - 06:50 .

[AZ RUSH]

Ahh, stop arguing please. ME2 is a great game ME1 is a great game, everything is great. Someone Liara pic spam to save the day, pleeeaassee!

[Ecael]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Whats Ecael doing here pulling stuff out of her ass? Shouldnt she be patrolling the forums defending ME2s honour?

As I've mentioned before, it's kind of hard to want to buy Mass Effect 2 if you didn't like Mass Effect 1 in the first place.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Ah don't worry! I'll stop now before things get derailed. It was fun while it lasted.

[Nozybidaj]

AZ RUSH wrote...

Ahh, stop arguing please. ME2 is a great game ME1 is a great game, everything is great. Someone Liara pic spam to save the day, pleeeaassee!

Wish thread creators had admin rights to their own threads, I'd go back and delete every trace of pic spam in the thread.  We have things like photo galleries in the user groups for that.

[jlb524]

Ecael wrote...

There aren't many people asking BioWare their excuse for not including every new character in the ME2 squad in ME1 (Kasumi, Zaeed, Thane, Jack, Miranda, Jacob, Legion, Samara, Morinth, Mordin), so I'd still say Liara has the edge over the others when it comes to role in the entire trilogy.

That makes no sense.  Those characters weren't established at that point.  They will be asking why those characters are getting cameoed in ME3, if they do so.

[AZ RUSH]

Nozybidaj wrote...

Wish thread creators had admin rights to their own threads, I'd go back and delete every trace of pic spam in the thread.  We have things like photo galleries in the user groups for that.

Pic spam is the only way to stop arguing!.....unless....

[Marcin K]

AZ RUSH wrote...

Ahh, stop arguing please. ME2 is a great game ME1 is a great game, everything is great. Someone Liara pic spam to save the day, pleeeaassee!

i've already did, but if you are asking so nicely...well....
here goes:

and it's not spam but beautyfull pic=]

[Nozybidaj]

jlb524 wrote...

Nozybidaj wrote...

Agreed, I would have much prefered a simple "Horizion Moment" with Liara than what we got.  At this point I'd even prefere to not see or hear from her at all in ME3 than see them continue the current story with some of the worst case ideas we've thrown up as possibilities for where they are going with it.

If they can't do it right I'd rather they not do it at all.

I agree.  If needed, I'll continue the Liara story in my own imagination, including the Shepard/Liara love affair portion of it.  Pretend the story ended with ME1 and make up the rest.

Way ahead of ya.  I think I'm almost to the point of completely denying ME2's existance in my own mind. 

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Ecael wrote...

As I've mentioned before, it's kind of hard to want to buy Mass Effect 2 if you didn't like Mass Effect 1 in the first place.

Have you even been listening to Bioware or watching their focus of attention with ME2? Thats precisely NOT hard to do, because it was their MAIN AIM. All those people who complained about being unable to like or get into ME1 because the shooter aspect wasnt good enough? ME2 is for them.

The plot is immediately severed from ME1, self contained, and achieves absolutely nothing in the context of a trilogy. ME2 is a sidestep plotwise.

They even admit each game is "stand alone".

Face it, Bioware clearly dont agree with that statement, and its not the kind of "trilogy" they are making.

[Nozybidaj]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

Cartims wrote...

Hey Dink, we are alike........bet you didn't know that.....lol

Ya I know, I guess Im a sekrit lesbian in denial.

If I was a chick I would totally be a le.... wait, what?

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

That's not to say I hate what has happened with Liara in ME2, or wish to see it erased. I believe that with some more exposition it could work and be pretty interesting. But as it stands, in it's rather poorly executed state, I prefer just thinking about and enjoying Liara in ME1.

I'm fine with it for now, since there's still hope her character will get the attention it deserves in ME3.  However, if Liara gets another crap deskjob cameo in ME3...all hope is lost.

[Marcin K]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

*SNIP*
They even admit each game is "stand alone".

Face it, Bioware clearly dont agree with that statement, and its not the kind of "trilogy" they are making.

maybe it will be called something Like DUO-CYCLE game, we'll see how ME3 will go....hopefully good:)

[Ecael]

jlb524 wrote...

Ecael wrote...

There aren't many people asking BioWare their excuse for not including every new character in the ME2 squad in ME1 (Kasumi, Zaeed, Thane, Jack, Miranda, Jacob, Legion, Samara, Morinth, Mordin), so I'd still say Liara has the edge over the others when it comes to role in the entire trilogy.

That makes no sense.  Those characters weren't established at that point.  They will be asking why those characters are getting cameoed in ME3, if they do so.

I know it's sounds that way, but I was trying to make the point that Liara still has a ton of screentime in the entire trilogy compared to a lot of the other squadmates.

[AZ RUSH]

You made me do this!

*Directed at the current statis of this thread

[Noxis6]

jlb524 wrote...

That makes no sense.  Those characters weren't established at that point.  They will be asking why those characters are getting cameoed in ME3, if they do so.

Which is very likely to happen since they all can die in ME2 which btw really cheapens the tool of "character death" and really gives the ME2 squad a feeling of just being throw away characters

[Ecael]

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

This isn't the best place to start that argument, Dink.

[Nozybidaj]

Noxis6 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

That makes no sense.  Those characters weren't established at that point.  They will be asking why those characters are getting cameoed in ME3, if they do so.

Which is very likely to happen since they all can die in ME2 which btw really cheapens the tool of "character death" and really gives the ME2 squad a feeling of just being throw away characters

I'm okay with that.  I'd rather that then "cheapen" the fact that ME2 was supposed to be a suicide mission and that being used as the main reason for the characters and story taking such a detour 1/3 of the way in.

I'm okay with the trilogy just being a two parter at this point, so long as they actually return to the story in ME3.

[Marcin K]

Ecael wrote...

Dinkamus_Littlelog wrote...

This isn't the best place to start that argument, Dink.

*making YET ANOTHER another try to clear atmosphere*
shall we return to calm, civilised and ON TOPIC discussion?

Modifié par Marcin R, 19 mai 2010 - 07:01 .

[Dinkamus_Littlelog]

Ecael wrote...
This isn't the best place to start that
argument, Dink.

Oh I agree. Its also not the best place to try and subtly and wrongly accuse someone of being an alt account. Lets learn from our mistakes shall we?

[jtav]

I'm almost afraid to ask this, but I've been toying with a Liara/Miranda fic. Would you guys mind if I picked your brains on a few points relating to the "mind meld," mating, Liara's romance and asari culture in general?

[AZ RUSH]

Marcin R wrote...
*making YET ANOTHER another try to clear atmosphere*
shall we return to calm, civilised and ON TIPIC discussion?

^^^^^THIS!!!