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[Marcin K]

Shavon wrote...

My renegade Shepard treats Liara like a QUEEN!

hehe=]
anyway, as i have exam tomorrow, i go OFFLINE to get a good night sleep, cya all tomorrow, dream bout Liara:)
some pic for a goodbye?
hell yea:devil:

[jtav]

jib has it right. He also has rather Edward Cullen-like "I cannot live without you" obsessive tendencies--as long as he can perceive the lady as perfect. Liara's been up to some questionable things on Illium and he despises her for not living up to his standards. He's a pathetic, hypocritical jerk who thinks he's Heathcliff. Run, Liara, run!

[bjdbwea]

jtav wrote...

And bjdbwea, Shepard isn't exactly a prize in this story: he sacrifices every principle he has for the chance of bringing Tali back. Liara's better off without him.

I hope my comment didn't sound disrespectful, that wasn't the intention. I do find that idea interesting, people do stupid things out of love sometimes. I have no interest in stories featuring Tali though. I also find stories of Liara together with someone else than Shepard... odd. I do like Miranda too though. So feel free to post it here of course, as long as the parts are still Liara related.

[jlb524]

jtav wrote...

jib has it right. He also has rather Edward Cullen-like "I cannot live without you" obsessive tendencies--as long as he can perceive the lady as perfect.

Oh no, I don't like him already.

Liara's been up to some questionable things on Illium and he despises her for not living up to his standards. He's a pathetic, hypocritical jerk who thinks he's Heathcliff. Run, Liara, run!

Funny enough, some do roleplay Shepard as such.

[Sunnie]

One can also consider Liara luckier than most Asari with Shepard now as the upgrades she got during Lazerus are likely to extend her life by 100-200%. Could even be more...does anyone have any idea how old TIM is? I have a feeling he has been around for some time...

[muskettman87]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

york, doesn't the "long view" apply to asari/non-asari relationships, though? I think it refers to the fact that an asari almost always outlives her partner, and therefore remains philosophical about the relationship and cherishes the time she spends with her partner, and doesn't dwell on the inevitable loss. I think Liara isn't adopting the long view with Shepard as she goes out of her way to hunt Shepard down, and hands the corpse over to Cerberus because she wants to see Shepard revived, despite the great pain it causes her. She's different from other asari in that respect.

When the long view is applied to anything else, however, I can see why it should perhaps be abandoned. The codex states that the asari have no qualms with spending centuries studying or observing something of interest, so I can see Liara perhaps being influenced by Shepard and humans in general in that respect by a desire to be more proactive, and to progress and get things done more quickly than the asari are used to. Rather than spend a long time being rather passive due to their long life spans, Liara could convince the asari to accomplish things quicker and to accomplish things quicker.

I think you are right Les. I could see Liara being influenced by Shep, she even states in the first game than she always thought of humanity as "rushed and high strung". But she admits that after spending time with Shep ,and the crew, that their short life-span might actually be an advantage.

[Sunnie]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

One can also consider Liara luckier than most Asari with Shepard now as the upgrades she got during Lazerus are likely to extend her life by 100-200%. Could even be more...does anyone have any idea how old TIM is? I have a feeling he has been around for some time...

Yep, we've theorised this before in the past. Shepard's lifespan may have been extended quite significantly through the cybernetic implants. In fact, they probably have as Miranda says that her cybernetics has extended her lifespan, and Shepard would have been fitted with an even more advanced type of cybernetics.

If that's the case, then Liara could have Shepard with her for quite a significant portion of her life.

Miri actualy  says that she will live half again as long as a normal human due to her biological engineering, not because of cybernetics.

[Noxis6]

Sunnie22 wrote...

One can also consider Liara luckier than most Asari with Shepard now as the upgrades she got during Lazerus are likely to extend her life by 100-200%. Could even be more...does anyone have any idea how old TIM is? I have a feeling he has been around for some time...

Yeah Shepard may life longer then the usual human unless of course they pull the good old "heroic sacryfice" in ME3 or something like the project was flawed and the implants are failing so Shepard only has limited time left
As for TIM no idea but I would say he was around some time before the First contact war for sure

[Fiannawolf]

I know this is from 10 pages back or so but......Somebody, who's face did you use on your Blue Man Liara hybrid? He's freaky!

[Sunnie]

Fiannawolf wrote...

I know this is from 10 pages back or so but......Somebody, who's face did you use on your Blue Man Liara hybrid? He's freaky!

No! Don't make him repost that hideous thing!

[jtav]

jib, you're supposed to hate the little hypocrite. I find it easier to create Lawful Neutral/Lawful Stupid Sheps than more sympathetic ones. It's one reason I pair the LIs with each other. I take a more nuanced view of Liara's situation.

Modifié par jtav, 19 mai 2010 - 09:01 .

[Sunnie]

Ahhh! That thing is now haunting me...

Liara Croft disapproves -1000000000000000000

[Noxis6]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Ah, I was misinformed. I actually spoke very little to Miranda in ME2, as I didn't want to inadvertedly have Liara's picture flip itself face down. I don't think I could stomach that.

Still, the extent of which Shepard's cybernetic implants will have replaced some of her internal organs' functions, and therefore limit cellular degenration, I think Shepard will have an extended lifespan due to the implants.

I dont know if the implants really have replaced organ functions to me it seems the damaged organs were just cloned and replaced or just revived
But then again the only details we have are the relativly vague cutscenes at the start of the game,it would have been intresting to ask Miranda about specifics of the project
Sadly the whole brought back from the dead thing was basicly dropped immidialty after you leave the Lazarus facility

[Fiannawolf]

Oh god! That guy! What a Twist Still looks like an axe murderer.

[jtav]

The "brought back from the dead" was handled terribly. Shepard just shrugs it off like it was nothing. No angst, not even real curiosity. S/he doesn't really come off as human during parts of the game.

[Yeled]

jlb524 wrote...
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[*]I don't think Liara would blame Shepard in either case, since she did the first one.  As for the second, I feel that Liara expects Shepard to move on with another, as she is very guilty and believes Shepard will hate her for what she did with the body.  She would be upset about Shepard moving on, but she would keep this to herself and wouldn't hold a grudge against him or Tali.
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I'm  not so sure I agree with this.  Not exactly anyway.  I think Liara would be incredibly hurt if Shepard moved on and took another lover.  I agree that she would not say anything to Shepard, but I think she would be absolutely devestated.  This is her worst fear--that Shepard will reject her for what she has done--come to fruition.  She may expect Shep to move on, but this expectation is born from that fear.  its not an expectation that comes from her being in a good place.

I don't think she'd be out for revenge, but I wouldn't be surprised if Liara immersed herself in her work and tried to cut herself off from Shepard and Tali altogether.  Afterall, would you want to see the person for whom you sacrificed everything with another woman?  And I think she might get pushed even further down the dark path ME2 laid out for her.

[jlb524]

Yeled wrote...

I'm  not so sure I agree with this.  Not exactly anyway.  I think Liara would be incredibly hurt if Shepard moved on and took another lover.  I agree that she would not say anything to Shepard, but I think she would be absolutely devestated.  This is her worst fear--that Shepard will reject her for what she has done--come to fruition.  She may expect Shep to move on, but this expectation is born from that fear.  its not an expectation that comes from her being in a good place.

I don't think she'd be out for revenge, but I wouldn't be surprised if Liara immersed herself in her work and tried to cut herself off from Shepard and Tali altogether.  Afterall, would you want to see the person for whom you sacrificed everything with another woman?  And I think she might get pushed even further down the dark path ME2 laid out for her.

Yeah, I agree, she would be devastated, but wouldn't take it out on Shepard because of the guilt. I don't see a Liara/Tali catfight happening. Oh, that would be terrible.

[Yeled]

jlb524 wrote...

Yeah, I agree, she would be devastated, but wouldn't take it out on Shepard because of the guilt. I don't see a Liara/Tali catfight happening. Oh, that would be terrible.

I agree.  No catfight.

[Noxis6]

jlb524 wrote...
Yeah, I agree, she would be devastated, but wouldn't take it out on Shepard because of the guilt. I don't see a Liara/Tali catfight happening. Oh, that would be terrible.

Actually their might be an argument not sure if it would be in the Liara/Tali case but other combos might have it,though no physical fight if Liara would really go nuts on the new Li that would really give some satisfaction to the cheaters
But a little argument would be nice I really missed some conflict in romances in ME2 you could go for all of them but it let to nothing like in ME1 or Baldurs Gate 2