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[CM26617]

I'm more of a classical person when it comes to emotive music. One piece from ME 2 that caught my attention was "ME 2 OST - Humans Are Disappearing". What drew me to that piece was the piano section playing throughout of it - very emotive stuff.



I know, I know, a part of it was played when Shepard died, but contextually, I think it could also suit a moment when Liara tearfully embraces Shepard after they run into each other again.



Look it up and decide for yourselves...

[muskettman87]

The thread! its alive!

I know exactly the song you're talking about CM. I think it would be a very fitting and emotionaly engaging song for a Liara reunion.

[OrbitalWings]

This isn't intended to re-ignite the debate. But as I was asleep during the discussion, I'd like to state my own views.

The in-game codex refers to asari as "An all-female race", and the Codex that comes with the Collector's Edition of ME1 says "While asari have only one gender, they are not asexual like single-celled life. All are sexually female."

That's good enough for me. Liara's a girl.

Casey's stupid comments were a ploy to ward off the same-sex question, nothing more. I was watching the talk live - someone asked him if there would be same-sex romance in ME2 like in ME1, and he replied by saying it would be the same as ME1 - in which there weren't any because Liara is asexual, completely contradicting both games' Codexes. The confusion is simply a result of his attempting to soften the blow that there wouldn't be any same-sex romances in ME2, and in doing so he carelessly caused massive confusion over one of the ME1 characters - which at the time - didn't matter at all to the marketing machine.

Also - during the game Liara mentions a few times that she is not technically a woman. This always struck me as an attempt to remind the humans around her that she is not a woman in the sense they understand - she isn't the "female of the species". In fact, both times she says this are when her relationship with a female Shepard is mentioned - again, it seemed to me to be a reminder from her that from her perspective, there was nothing odd about same-sex unions because to her, gender doesn't matter as asari only have the one, and haven't formed gender-roles and common sexualities.

Modifié par Metal-Dragon-Kiryu, 21 mai 2010 - 08:18 .

[Onyx Jaguar]

Well what I was getting at wasn't that they weren't female it was that their reproduction methods.............



Would suggest something

[Sharn01]

Personally I think femShep is the more natural pairing for Liara. They are an all female race, when they first encounted other intelligent life as a race the concept of a male member of the species would be a completely foreign idea. While time amongst them surely changed their views, I still think that females, particuarly human females since they share so many physical features would feel a lot more natural to most asari.

[OrbitalWings]

Sharn01 wrote...

Personally I think femShep is the more natural pairing for Liara. They are an all female race, when they first encounted other intelligent life as a race the concept of a male member of the species would be a completely foreign idea. While time amongst them surely changed their views, I still think that females, particuarly human females since they share so many physical features would feel a lot more natural to most asari.

I've seen this concept mentioned a fair few times. Some argue that MaleShep is more "exotic" to them.

In my mind FemShep having hair is plenty exotic enough

[OrbitalWings]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yep, Liara telling FemShep that she is not technically a woman is just reiterating that the concept of gender and sex differences is completely foreign to the asari. To the asari and to Liara, male and female have no real mening to them, as she says in-game. When FemShep or Kaidan state that Liara is a woman, she distances herself from the label because it has no meaning to her, and is not something she really ascribes to.

Liara is still all female, though. It's just that she has no concept of that, and it has no meaning to her.

Yeah.

I think the best way to describe it would be Liara is female, but not a woman - in that she has no pre-detirmined gender-role set by society.

One asari could behave like a different species' female, and another asari could behave like that species' male - both these asari would be female.

As a sidenote - it's my dubious honour to inform you all that right now, I'm drawing Liara's naked chest

[OrbitalWings]

WIP time...

[Marcin K]

hey all from almost-flooded-Warsaw

[Asheer_Khan]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

WIP time...

Looks promising .

Mind if i ask what kind of drawing metode you use? (mouse+keyboard or tablet)

[Asheer_Khan]

Marcin R wrote...

hey all from almost-flooded-Warsaw

Hey Marcin, and yes this flood is crazy :pinched:.

[OrbitalWings]

Asheer_Khan wrote...
Looks promising .

Mind if i ask what kind of drawing metode you use? (mouse+keyboard or tablet)

I use a tablet to do the sketchy line-art (like this pic) and then I actually use my laptop' mousepad to do almost the entire drawing, including shading. And then the tablet comes back out for things like hair that need to have defined but flowing shading.

[OrbitalWings]

Another WIP...

http://fc02.devianta...ragon_Kiryu.jpg

Linked because it's definately NSFW

Modifié par Metal-Dragon-Kiryu, 21 mai 2010 - 11:18 .

[Marcin K]

Metal-Dragon-Kiryu wrote...

Another WIP...

http://fc02.devianta...ragon_Kiryu.jpg

Linked because it's definately NSFW

nice...:happy:

[OrbitalWings]

As a sidenote - Liara's necklace will be very important in a fic I'm planning...

[OrbitalWings]

Here's a censored version I can actually post on here (let's home Photobucket doesn't take offence......which they usually do)

[OrbitalWings]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Interesting, looking forward to that. Possibly a gift to Liara from Shepard?

Half-right - but it's not quite a simple as that...

[Mighty_BOB_cnc]

Might want to re-check anatomical reference for Freya's neck/head positioning. That kinda looks like her trachea might be squeezed a bit much. Head seems just a tad too small. Also Liara's neck seems slightly on the long side.





I like Liara's pendant. Does it have any special significance or is it just there for being cool?

[Erinlana]

Mighty_BOB_cnc wrote...

Might want to re-check anatomical reference for Freya's neck/head positioning. That kinda looks like her trachea might be squeezed a bit much. Head seems just a tad too small. Also Liara's neck seems slightly on the long side.


I like Liara's pendant. Does it have any special significance or is it just there for being cool?

I like the pendant its a nice touch
By ay chance did you post anything with Liara wearing Glasses i may have missed if you did heh thankies