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[wampa]

Out of all characters, I think she's gonna have the biggest part since she can't be killed off.



Can't say for sure for Tali...

[Mithran88]

jlb524 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Liara and the surviving Alliance soldier are all going to be reintroduced into the main plot and story in some way in time for ME3. In Liara's case, what better way to accomplish that then have the Shadow Broker be a pawn of the Reapers?

That would be the most obvious way....don't know how they're going to reintroduce AshyPoo and KaiKai.

Maybe the Alliance finally pulls their heads out of their bums and decide to ally with Shepard.  They would want to send one of their own on the missions so who better than someone that has served under Shepard in the past?

ME3 will more than likely have you running around uniting the galaxy against the reapers, all surviving team members brought back in one way or another. 

[kraidy1117]

Mithran88 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Liara and the surviving Alliance soldier are all going to be reintroduced into the main plot and story in some way in time for ME3. In Liara's case, what better way to accomplish that then have the Shadow Broker be a pawn of the Reapers?

The thing is, if bioware can't bring back the ME2 characters because they don't want to gorw balls nad risk it then we won't see Liara, Ash and Kaidan back in ME3 expect for cameos. The reason why is the backlash for that would be huge. If Liara, Ash and Kaidan get closure and there romance is done well but the ME2 LI are not then not only is Bioware telling fans that they where just flings, but it would be a quick in the quad to the people like me who cared for the characters and prefre Miri then all the other romances. I don't want to go back to Ash, I want Miri.

LesEnfantsTerribles is right they will make a comeback. They left the option for you to remain romanced to them and if you went otherwise that was your own decision. They made ME2 for new ppl to the ME world as well. that being said those ppl could form a relationship and for those who wanted to leave their ME LI they could. I confident they WILL be back in ME3 as LI and Squadmates

Oh I am hoping, but if you bring back Liara, Ash and Kaidan you also have to bring back the ME2 LI. Could you picture the outburst from the Tali, Garrus and Miri fans if that crap happen. All three have huge fanbases, and Jib knows I am very vocal on this matter. If none of the ME2 characters come back as squadmates in ME3, I will not buy ME3. Bioware is telling me that ME2 was a big waste of time because the whole point was the characters.

[Blameless77]

morrie23 wrote...


There are quite a few planetary descriptions that could pertain to the Repears or some sort of chekhov gun for their destruction. It would be great if the SB had some insight like that, it would bring Liara to the fore again in ME3.

The planetary descriptions can definitely show up in a big way. The Great Rift on Klendagon was explained in ME2 (derelict Reaper/ Mass Accelerator round). I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other ones also show up in ME3 like the ones about the Machine Devils or the Leviathan of Dis.

[kraidy1117]

I am hoping Bioware explores Preying mouth, that planet has a interesting description.

[Asheer_Khan]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Barquiel wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

There was not alot of focus on the characters at all in ME expect for Garrus and Wrex.

Are you serious? I know they are your favorites (and we completely disagree on Garrus^_^), but Garrus and Wrex were optional in ME1.
ME1
Liara: mind reading
Tali: the evidence

ME2
Miranda: Lazarus project
Modrin: science/Horizon

There is no difference imo.

And guess what, Liara and Tali didt have alot of edv. Liara was only needed to find Illos other then that, alot of her conversatinos was her flirting with you and telling you about Asari and Tali was a walking textbook. Garrus nad Wrex had alot of dev in the game and not to mention that Wrex plays a huge part at Sarens base. You did't get Wrex or Garrus or killed Wrex then shame on you.

What huge role except beach showdown (which can be easy "disarmed" whit little effort putting to get his family armor and in off charm points)  Wrex plays in on Virmire????
It was almost similar whit Zaeed's confrntation (however Wrex part was much better put together) after Vigo's escape (?) and Garrus in ME 1 have constant "daddy complex" and "I hate how C-Sec shackles my hand whit rules and regulations" trauma.

Tali as walking textbook... clasic old forum Tali hate cameo, i am actually surprised that you didn't brought "Ash was a religioust racist" argument too as well.

And Liara flirted whit you ONLY if you let whole mushy stuff to be triggered on.
If you made her clear that romance is off the table she act from stricte scientific base.
Of course there could be one or two very specyfic dialogs unavailable (however can't be sure since she always was my Li) if you don't romance her but overall dialog whell count was lot bigger ME 1 and completely independent from romance part than what ME 2 brought...

In my third overall ME 2 run i practicly gave up any attempt to talk whit squad members over necessary must be (aka L-missions) when in ME 1 i spend large time to cruise after each core missions between decks and talking to all chars without fear to listening another "Sorry Shepard but i am busy to cleaning already hyper aseptical sterile clean engine" or  "I have no time because i need to calibrate those gus" cameos...

Once i wished renegade interrupt "Then plug that ****in calibration control to EDI's port and let her deal whit those guns".
So like i posted once my Shepard was alone surrounded by crowd... and that's rather bad sign for a game aspired to be RPG syle... no, ME 2 is more wanabe rpg than true RPG game.<_<

Modifié par Asheer_Khan, 21 mai 2010 - 07:42 .

[Barquiel]

wampa wrote...

Out of all characters, I think she's gonna have the biggest part since she can't be killed off.

Can't say for sure for Tali...

I think Miranda has good chances as well...and enough loose ends (Orianna/Cerberus, her father)

Tali is very vulnerable during the suicide mission

[kraidy1117]

ME2 is a RPG. You play the role of Shepard, you make choices, you impact the game with your character it's a RPG. Inventory systems, story, buying and selling and even more powers does not mean it's a real RPG. ME2 is a RPG, not a wannabe RPG, congrats on failing yet again and also I'am a Tali and Ash fan, so great job on failing yet again.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 21 mai 2010 - 07:47 .

[kraidy1117]

Barquiel wrote...

wampa wrote...

Out of all characters, I think she's gonna have the biggest part since she can't be killed off.

Can't say for sure for Tali...

I think Miranda has good chances as well...and enough loose ends (Orianna/Cerberus, her father)

Tali is very vulnerable during the suicide mission

Only characters that will play a huge part is Legion, Liara and miri. Liara is a give in. Legion and Miri have alot of loose ends, Legion is your only contact for the Geth and Miri knows alot about Cerberus. These are the only characters that I can see being plot critical in ME3 and if they died, well you misso ut on the story too bad for the people who got characters killed on purpose.

[Mithran88]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Mithran88 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Liara and the surviving Alliance soldier are all going to be reintroduced into the main plot and story in some way in time for ME3. In Liara's case, what better way to accomplish that then have the Shadow Broker be a pawn of the Reapers?

The thing is, if bioware can't bring back the ME2 characters because they don't want to gorw balls nad risk it then we won't see Liara, Ash and Kaidan back in ME3 expect for cameos. The reason why is the backlash for that would be huge. If Liara, Ash and Kaidan get closure and there romance is done well but the ME2 LI are not then not only is Bioware telling fans that they where just flings, but it would be a quick in the quad to the people like me who cared for the characters and prefre Miri then all the other romances. I don't want to go back to Ash, I want Miri.

LesEnfantsTerribles is right they will make a comeback. They left the option for you to remain romanced to them and if you went otherwise that was your own decision. They made ME2 for new ppl to the ME world as well. that being said those ppl could form a relationship and for those who wanted to leave their ME LI they could. I confident they WILL be back in ME3 as LI and Squadmates

Oh I am hoping, but if you bring back Liara, Ash and Kaidan you also have to bring back the ME2 LI. Could you picture the outburst from the Tali, Garrus and Miri fans if that crap happen. All three have huge fanbases, and Jib knows I am very vocal on this matter. If none of the ME2 characters come back as squadmates in ME3, I will not buy ME3. Bioware is telling me that ME2 was a big waste of time because the whole point was the characters.

ME1 was building a team up learning the threat you faced ME2 was building strong team and bridge to ME3, bound to have less than ME1 and 3 ME3 wont be about building teams they I think they will bring both ME1 and 2 team members back LI and all... and it will be getting the galaxy to face the real threat and wake up. 

[kraidy1117]

Mithran88 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Mithran88 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Liara and the surviving Alliance soldier are all going to be reintroduced into the main plot and story in some way in time for ME3. In Liara's case, what better way to accomplish that then have the Shadow Broker be a pawn of the Reapers?

The thing is, if bioware can't bring back the ME2 characters because they don't want to gorw balls nad risk it then we won't see Liara, Ash and Kaidan back in ME3 expect for cameos. The reason why is the backlash for that would be huge. If Liara, Ash and Kaidan get closure and there romance is done well but the ME2 LI are not then not only is Bioware telling fans that they where just flings, but it would be a quick in the quad to the people like me who cared for the characters and prefre Miri then all the other romances. I don't want to go back to Ash, I want Miri.

LesEnfantsTerribles is right they will make a comeback. They left the option for you to remain romanced to them and if you went otherwise that was your own decision. They made ME2 for new ppl to the ME world as well. that being said those ppl could form a relationship and for those who wanted to leave their ME LI they could. I confident they WILL be back in ME3 as LI and Squadmates

Oh I am hoping, but if you bring back Liara, Ash and Kaidan you also have to bring back the ME2 LI. Could you picture the outburst from the Tali, Garrus and Miri fans if that crap happen. All three have huge fanbases, and Jib knows I am very vocal on this matter. If none of the ME2 characters come back as squadmates in ME3, I will not buy ME3. Bioware is telling me that ME2 was a big waste of time because the whole point was the characters.

ME1 was building a team up learning the threat you faced ME2 was building strong team and bridge to ME3, bound to have less than ME1 and 3 ME3 wont be about building teams they I think they will bring both ME1 and 2 team members back LI and all... and it will be getting the galaxy to face the real threat and wake up. 

I hope this is true and I am a vocal supporter for this, but the thing is will Bioware grow balls and do it. Will they prove all the haters wrong or will they prove them right and making people like me who defend ME2 and Bioware look like morons?

[kraidy1117]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

If any character is most likely to return as a squaddie in ME3, it's definitely Liara. The only character guaranteed to be alive, she's most likely to play a huge plot or story role. Yeah, I'm extremely confident and optimistic about Liara's future!

Liara is a give-in, only character who can't die, is involved with a major side story, was importent on getting Shepard back to life.

[Mithran88]

kraidy1117 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

If any character is most likely to return as a squaddie in ME3, it's definitely Liara. The only character guaranteed to be alive, she's most likely to play a huge plot or story role. Yeah, I'm extremely confident and optimistic about Liara's future!

Liara is a give-in, only character who can't die, is involved with a major side story, was importent on getting Shepard back to life.

yeah, plus ME3 is the final game for the trilogy. They dont want to bring in anymore new ppl so this leads me that all surviving ME1 and 2 characters will be brought back.

[kraidy1117]

"My name is Bioware and we are going to make a whole new cast of characters in ME3 that no one will care about. We already have amazing characters that people love and expensive VAs, but who cares. We will waste more resources and money on making new characters and getting new VAs!!! Also just for kicks we will make all the characters cameos in ME3, it will be cool"

[jlb524]

I'm not sure that every ME2 squad mate will have a big ME3 role, but I'd be surprised if some did not. Miranda, for instance, is the most difficult character to kill on the suicide mission. She has the Cerberus connection and is Shepard's XO. She's one of the only ones concerned with the greater Reaper threat, and not just the Collectors (we see this from the opening scene with her and TIM). I'm not sure what else she would be doing.



Liara, of course, is the only one guaranteed to be alive. At least one Alliance soldier has to be alive, so either Ash or Kaidan should have a big role as well.

[bjdbwea]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Oh I am hoping, but if you bring back Liara, Ash and Kaidan you also have to bring back the ME2 LI. Could you picture the outburst from the Tali, Garrus and Miri fans if that crap happen. All three have huge fanbases, and Jib knows I am very vocal on this matter. If none of the ME2 characters come back as squadmates in ME3, I will not buy ME3. Bioware is telling me that ME2 was a big waste of time because the whole point was the characters.

Now you know how I and others around here feel about ME 2. What you fear, already happened to us. I still bought ME 2, but I will certainly be very wary about ME 3.

Fact is, all of the ME 2 crew could be dead. Logic says that the effort to make them crew members would therefore not be made. And here's a newsflash, BioWare/EA don't really care about "outbursts" on their forums. So you better be prepared for a disappointment. I know I am, because I wouldn't be surprised if the ME 1 companions weren't there either.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 21 mai 2010 - 07:58 .

[Barquiel]

I anticipate some new team members as well. BW loves new characters

old squadmates: I have not the faintest idea...
They'll have to write romance content for 8-9 characters.
story-wise: everything is possible

Modifié par Barquiel, 21 mai 2010 - 07:57 .

[Mithran88]

kraidy1117 wrote...

"My name is Bioware and we are going to make a whole new cast of characters in ME3 that no one will care about. We already have amazing characters that people love and expensive VAs, but who cares. We will waste more resources and money on making new characters and getting new VAs!!! Also just for kicks we will make all the characters cameos in ME3, it will be cool"

 x forever

[kraidy1117]

jlb524 wrote...

I'm not sure that every ME2 squad mate will have a big ME3 role, but I'd be surprised if some did not. Miranda, for instance, is the most difficult character to kill on the suicide mission. She has the Cerberus connection and is Shepard's XO. She's one of the only ones concerned with the greater Reaper threat, and not just the Collectors (we see this from the opening scene with her and TIM). I'm not sure what else she would be doing.

Liara, of course, is the only one guaranteed to be alive. At least one Alliance soldier has to be alive, so either Ash or Kaidan should have a big role as well.

Plus those loose ends with Oriana, her father and Cerberus. It's clear that Bioware has plans with her, the only reason she can die is because everyone else can so Bioware decided to make it very hard for her to die. Plus there is Legion. Legion is very importent because of many things, the biggest is without Legion, you have no contact with the Geth or anyway to settle peace between the Quarians and Geth. Legion and Miri have the best chance to return out of all the ME2 characters.

[kraidy1117]

bjdbwea wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Oh I am hoping, but if you bring back Liara, Ash and Kaidan you also have to bring back the ME2 LI. Could you picture the outburst from the Tali, Garrus and Miri fans if that crap happen. All three have huge fanbases, and Jib knows I am very vocal on this matter. If none of the ME2 characters come back as squadmates in ME3, I will not buy ME3. Bioware is telling me that ME2 was a big waste of time because the whole point was the characters.

Now you know how I and others around here feel about ME 2. What you fear, already happened to us. I still bought ME 2, but I will certainly be very wary about ME 3.

Fact is, all of the ME 2 crew could be dead. Logic says that the effort to make them crew members will therefore not be made. And here's a newsflash, BioWare/EA don't really care about "outbursts" on their forums. So you better be prepared for a disappointment. I know I am, because I wouldn't be surprised if the ME 1 companions weren't there either.

It would cost morem oney to make more characters nad get more VAs. It's more cheaper to use your resources you have. No ME2 characters in my squad in ME3= no purchase for me and I iwll lose alot of respect for Bioware and I will consider the ME trilogy to be the worse ever.

Modifié par kraidy1117, 21 mai 2010 - 08:00 .

[jlb524]

Barquiel wrote...

I anticipate some new team members as well. BW loves new characters

old squadmates: I have not the faintest idea...
They'll have to write romance content for 8-9 characters.

They could go the easy way out and just cameo all the LIs.