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muskettman87

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This Nxyeris working for SB talk gave me an idea for a potential beginning to the Liara DLC.

If Nxyeris was hindering Liara's pursuit of the SB. With her out of the way Liara could follow some real "leads" and thus find the info she needed to find the SB. This could lead to a e-mail to Shepard asking for help, thus getting the ball moving on the DLC's story.

Just a theory,A fairly cut and dry theory, but a theory nontheless.Image IPB

On another note: That Sheploo avatar gave me a rofl momentImage IPB

Modifié par muskettman87, 23 mai 2010 - 12:26 .


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Laterz Liara fan thread and always remember......*The BBG IS #1*

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Andaius20 wrote...

hey thar Lira folks how's it going?

Pretty good, no fights right now *knocks on wood*

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Well, I don't know about lying, since the Observer has been helping Liara with her information business.


In what way was Nyxeris "helping" Liara? She was working as a double agent for the Shadow Broker, she was feeding Liara misinformation, and she was plotting to kill her. Nyxeris was trying to hinder Liara as much as possible.


I always wondered why the shadow broker didn't just kill Liara as soon she started her information broker career? Don't tell me it's because of that data Liara have in her possesion. I want an actuel explanation!

Im sure she would have killed Liara eventually, once the SB told her to.


The problem i have about the whole thing is this.

Why wait so long time and let Liara become an actuel threat to SB empire? Why not just kill her while Shep is being rebuild?

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

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I mean "Hey, Liara! Look what I got! Here's some info on those bad Shadow Broker people. And, look! Here's some info on screwing over some more Shadow Broker people. Yeah, we're so screwing over the Shadow Broker right now!"

(behind the scenes, Liara been doing Shadow Broker business without even realizing it.)


That's not really helping, that's more like manipulating. Plus, how would TIM be privy to such information about Liara and the Shadow Broker?


Because he's TIM, and he's an ****. lol. Anyways, you get what I mean.

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Lizardviking wrote...

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Well, I don't know about lying, since the Observer has been helping Liara with her information business.


In what way was Nyxeris "helping" Liara? She was working as a double agent for the Shadow Broker, she was feeding Liara misinformation, and she was plotting to kill her. Nyxeris was trying to hinder Liara as much as possible.


I always wondered why the shadow broker didn't just kill Liara as soon she started her information broker career? Don't tell me it's because of that data Liara have in her possesion. I want an actuel explanation!

Im sure she would have killed Liara eventually, once the SB told her to.


The problem i have about the whole thing is this.

Why wait so long time and let Liara become an actuel threat to SB empire? Why not just kill her while Shep is being rebuild?

Yeah, I agree, it doesnt makeany sence. But we'll probab;y never know.:(

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muskettman87 wrote...

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Not to change the subject, but just finished a playthrough.  Probably old news, but I went to the Citadel after the Collector Base (main game ending) and listened to the news.  Got this:

"According to sources, whatever former Commander Shepard is doing involves surrounding herself with criminals, killers, mercenaries and other dangerous elements.  We at Galactic News hope that she consents to an interview to explain where she’s been and  what she’s been doing. "

Sources?  Most likely TIM.  I would think that Shepard may need a friend just as much as Liara will.  Perhaps they will be friends together. :wub:


I've never got that message before. I wonder if it changes depending on your choice at the end? Did you destroy the base or keep it for TIM?


I wondered that myself, but  yeah, I destroyed the base. 

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Andaius20 wrote...

hey thar Lira folks how's it going?

Pretty good, no fights right now *knocks on wood*

Shoulda come here earlier.:whistle:

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Hell Yea


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Lizardviking wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

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Well, I don't know about lying, since the Observer has been helping Liara with her information business.


In what way was Nyxeris "helping" Liara? She was working as a double agent for the Shadow Broker, she was feeding Liara misinformation, and she was plotting to kill her. Nyxeris was trying to hinder Liara as much as possible.


I always wondered why the shadow broker didn't just kill Liara as soon she started her information broker career? Don't tell me it's because of that data Liara have in her possesion. I want an actuel explanation!

Im sure she would have killed Liara eventually, once the SB told her to.


The problem i have about the whole thing is this.

Why wait so long time and let Liara become an actuel threat to SB empire? Why not just kill her while Shep is being rebuild?


My guess is because she has the data Feron gave her, which proves his dealings with the Collectors, as well as his other dealings.

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Shoulda come her earlier.:whistle:

You talking about your picture? And how it almost shut down the thread.:o

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TMA LIVE wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

Somebody1003 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Well, I don't know about lying, since the Observer has been helping Liara with her information business.


In what way was Nyxeris "helping" Liara? She was working as a double agent for the Shadow Broker, she was feeding Liara misinformation, and she was plotting to kill her. Nyxeris was trying to hinder Liara as much as possible.


I always wondered why the shadow broker didn't just kill Liara as soon she started her information broker career? Don't tell me it's because of that data Liara have in her possesion. I want an actuel explanation!

Im sure she would have killed Liara eventually, once the SB told her to.


The problem i have about the whole thing is this.

Why wait so long time and let Liara become an actuel threat to SB empire? Why not just kill her while Shep is being rebuild?


My guess is because she has the data Feron gave her, which proves his dealings with the Collectors, as well as his other dealings.


And the SB does not any backup data at all? Does he not have any USB sticks lying around? And still even if she had the data so what? Why not just kill her anyway?

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So what logically would have happened if Shep romanced Liara during the Illium meeting (assuming you had Miri in the squad)...

Liara: With my mind! 
Liara: SHEPARD!  Nyxeris, hold all my calls and leave us!

Shep: Liara!
Liara: /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/27991.gif /uploads_user/1070000/1069890/28010.gif
Shep:Image IPB Image IPB

Liara: Miranda! Oh thank the goddess you were successful! I really had my doubts you could actually do what you claimed! I am truely in your debt!

Miri: Hello Liara! Yes, We were successful! I am glad to see you so happy for once, you were not in such high spirits when last we spoke.

Liara: You are right, it was not really a very happy time for me, or you for that matter. Never the less, I have to thank you again for bringing Shepard back, I just couldn't let her go, and you have made things right again.

Miri: You're very welcome Liara, now I think you and Shepard might want some privacy. Come Jacob, time to see what they serve at Eternity.
*Miri and Jacob exit*

Liara: Image IPB Image IPB
Shep:Image IPB Image IPB
Liara: Image IPB Image IPB
Shep:Image IPB Image IPB
Liara: Image IPB Image IPB
Shep:Image IPB Image IPB

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Perfect!! Sunnie needs to write for BW.

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Lizardviking wrote...
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And the SB does not any backup data at all? Does he not have any USB sticks lying around? And still even if she had the data so what? Why not just kill her anyway?


Think about it this way. Liara can hand out his data to his clients, and show how much he screws them over, as well as working for dooms day people. He wants to keep her alive till he finds out where she has his data.

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LET, I think I would have liked your version of things much better than what we actually got.


Thanks jtav! You know, I'd actually feel a little intimidated if I were ever tasked with writing for Liara. I'd put so much pressure on myself to get it absolutely perfect and spot on, that I don't think I'd be able to handle it.

I'd be obsessed with getting absolutely everything right with Liara!

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Think about it this way. Liara can had out his data to his clients, and show how much he screws them over, as well as working for dooms day people. He wants to keep her alive till he finds out where she has his data.


And if Liara had handed the data to difrent people it would already be too late. And there would be no need to have her around. And if she have not yet handed the data over, why don't he just kill her at once to make sure the data does not get released?

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Lizardviking wrote...

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Think about it this way. Liara can had out his data to his clients, and show how much he screws them over, as well as working for dooms day people. He wants to keep her alive till he finds out where she has his data.


And if Liara had handed the data to difrent people it would already be too late. And there would be no need to have her around. And if she have not yet handed the data over, why don't he just kill her at once to make sure the data does not get released?


Because, she might have insurance, where the data is released in her death. She might have copies that can be found. Yet nothing has happened, so chances are, she hasn't done anything yet. But the threat is still there. Thus, he watches her, till he finds it.

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Lizardviking wrote...

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Think about it this way. Liara can had out his data to his clients, and show how much he screws them over, as well as working for dooms day people. He wants to keep her alive till he finds out where she has his data.


And if Liara had handed the data to difrent people it would already be too late. And there would be no need to have her around. And if she have not yet handed the data over, why don't he just kill her at once to make sure the data does not get released?


It may be more valuable than Liara or Feron knew. It could have much more than just the Collector deal information on it.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

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Think about it this way. Liara can had out his data to his clients, and show how much he screws them over, as well as working for dooms day people. He wants to keep her alive till he finds out where she has his data.


And if Liara had handed the data to difrent people it would already be too late. And there would be no need to have her around. And if she have not yet handed the data over, why don't he just kill her at once to make sure the data does not get released?


Because, she might have insurance, where the data is released in her death. She might have copies that can be found. Yet nothing has happened, so chances are, she hasn't done anything yet. But the threat is still there. Thus, he watches her, till he finds it.


Ah yes. Forgot the fact that she could transmit the data in case of her death. You have beaten me, I shall withdraw now.

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Lizardviking wrote...

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Think about it this way. Liara can had out his data to his clients, and show how much he screws them over, as well as working for dooms day people. He wants to keep her alive till he finds out where she has his data.


And if Liara had handed the data to difrent people it would already be too late. And there would be no need to have her around. And if she have not yet handed the data over, why don't he just kill her at once to make sure the data does not get released?


Maybe Liara place those data under care of trustworthy contact whit notice that if something will happened whit her (and i doubt that whit her current position her death wouldn't go unnoticed) those data should be revealed and SB still try to figured out who is in possesion of them?

it could be everyone:
Ash, Wrex, Tali, Councilor Anderson or even Aria...
Of course there are many other possibilites too and that might be a reason why Liara is still alive, because SB still didnt find that person (IF there is one).

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Liara has probably hidden this data away, data that if she revealed and made public could seriously weaken or even cripple the SB's empire in some way. So, he has to locate and recover it. Killing Liara removes all chances of him ever finding it, as the location of the data would die along with Liara. So therefore he'd be forced into what he does best, espionage and using intrigue. Being patient and waiting for a chance to strike. That's why he's placed an "Observer" there, so that Nyxeris can assist in finding and locating this data.



That's what I theorise, anyway.

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Asheer_Khan wrote...

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Think about it this way. Liara can had out his data to his clients, and show how much he screws them over, as well as working for dooms day people. He wants to keep her alive till he finds out where she has his data.


And if Liara had handed the data to difrent people it would already be too late. And there would be no need to have her around. And if she have not yet handed the data over, why don't he just kill her at once to make sure the data does not get released?


Maybe Liara place those data under care of trustworthy contact whit notice that if something will happened whit her (and i doubt that whit her current position her death wouldn't go unnoticed) those data should be revealed and SB still try to figured out who is in possesion of them?

it could be everyone:
Ash, Wrex, Tali, Councilor Anderson or even Aria...
Of course there are many other possibilites too and that might be a reason why Liara is still alive, because SB still didnt find that person (IF there is one).


Or she might have payed for an AI, or VI to transmit it under her death.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

Asheer_Khan wrote...

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Think about it this way. Liara can had out his data to his clients, and show how much he screws them over, as well as working for dooms day people. He wants to keep her alive till he finds out where she has his data.


And if Liara had handed the data to difrent people it would already be too late. And there would be no need to have her around. And if she have not yet handed the data over, why don't he just kill her at once to make sure the data does not get released?


Maybe Liara place those data under care of trustworthy contact whit notice that if something will happened whit her (and i doubt that whit her current position her death wouldn't go unnoticed) those data should be revealed and SB still try to figured out who is in possesion of them?

it could be everyone:
Ash, Wrex, Tali, Councilor Anderson or even Aria...
Of course there are many other possibilites too and that might be a reason why Liara is still alive, because SB still didnt find that person (IF there is one).


Or she might have payed for an AI, or VI to transmit it under her death.

AI's are illegal, I hope she didnt do that.:o

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AI's are illegal, I hope she didnt do that.Image IPB

Only in Council space.. Illium is not in Council space.

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