Open-eyed kiss! It's totally not weird!
Support Liara T'Soni for ME3 - Squadmate and LI
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#31077
Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:31
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I caught the ever so awkward kiss in gif form
Terrible!
Terrible!
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:32
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I always wondered what was up with Shepards hand about to touch Liara, then pulling away.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:33
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Seriously, it's like a kiss that lasts 0.6 seconds before Liara turns away and shakes her head......I hate it!!!
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:33
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*looks at somebodys pic* OMFG!!!!
#31081
Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:34
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Somebody1003 wrote...
I always wondered what was up with Shepards hand about to touch Liara, then pulling away.
Liara pulls her head away before the 'touch' and shakes it for some reason.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:35
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Yeah, I never got it.jlb524 wrote...
Somebody1003 wrote...
I always wondered what was up with Shepards hand about to touch Liara, then pulling away.
Liara pulls her head away before the 'touch' and shakes it for some reason.
Looked like it was going to be good, then..
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:35
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Aw yeah.kraidy1117 wrote...
*looks at somebodys pic* OMFG!!!!
#31084
Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:37
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I still get the impression Liara does the head shake thing because, in her head, she's thinking "Is this really Shepard? back from the dead!". Of course that could just be reading between the lines too much.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:40
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@jlb524
Is your signature a gif?
Or did you just make a new one.
Is your signature a gif?
Or did you just make a new one.
#31087
Posté 23 mai 2010 - 05:40
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jlb524 wrote...
That's a big blank space muskett!
LOL, I accidently mashed the ENTER key, after it posted I was like WTF?
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 06:37
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Don't lynch me, but I actually like the kiss and head shake. To me, it shows that the guilt over handing the corpse over to Cerberus and the fear that Shepard will hate her is affecting a romanced Liara to a far greater extent than it does when she isn't romanced. Liara wants to be intimate, as she's the one that initiates the kiss, but then her fear and guilt over what's happened kicks in and plays on her mind again, and that then manifests itself as Liara pulling away from the kiss, afraid to be intimate with Shepard due to her fear that she'll hate her. When Liara is Shepard's lover, this fear will be affecting her to an even greater extent, and there's extra depth to her fear and torment. A non-romanced Liara is capable of giving Shepard a warm hug as her fear and guilt isn't quite the same as if she were romanced. When she is, it prevents her from being physically intimate with Shepard, despite the fact that she wants to as Liara is the one that initiates the kiss.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:04
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I've got to admit Les, I have never really looked at it that way.Its an interesting concept, and honestly makes a lot of sense hearing you say it.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:05
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Take a look:
There's a different and far deeper dynamic to Liara's guilt and fear over what happened with Shepard and handing the corpse over to Cerberus. It's affecting Liara in a far deeper manner, and this manifests itself in Liara feeling alot more uncomfortable with being intimate with Shepard, despite the fact that she wants to as she is the one to initiate the kiss.
There's a different and far deeper dynamic to Liara's guilt and fear over what happened with Shepard and handing the corpse over to Cerberus. It's affecting Liara in a far deeper manner, and this manifests itself in Liara feeling alot more uncomfortable with being intimate with Shepard, despite the fact that she wants to as she is the one to initiate the kiss.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:08
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Wow, I've never really noticed just how powerful and moving that sad, distant stare is after Liara turns her head away. Very touching, and poignant.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:15
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Yeah, your on to something, putting the gifs side-by-side its much more clear how badly shes hurting during the kiss than the hug.
hmm, those slow moving gifs really give you time to notice just how much the kiss is affecting her. Its actually quite sad.
hmm, those slow moving gifs really give you time to notice just how much the kiss is affecting her. Its actually quite sad.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:19
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Wow, I've never really noticed just how powerful and moving that sad, distant stare is after Liara turns her head away. Very touching, and poignant.
I wonder what L-Doc is thinking when she turns her head away?
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:23
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muskettman87 wrote...
Yeah, your on to something, putting the gifs side-by-side its much more clear how badly shes hurting during the kiss than the hug.
hmm, those slow moving gifs really give you time to notice just how much the kiss is affecting her. Its actually quite sad.
I know, muskett.
Poor Liara, so sad, troubled and tormented.People have actually called me crazy in the past for this, and insist that there's no difference, but do you know that there are subtle variations in the Liara reunion scene dependant on whether you romanced her or not? I compared to two side-by-side using YouTube, and if you romanced Liara she seems a little warmer. There is less frowning, more smiling at Shepard. When she says that she can't join Shepard, it's more reluctant and apologetic compared to the more irritated and snappy response when she's not your LI.
I insist that there are these subtle differences in Liara's scenes in ME2!! People can call me crazy all they want, but I have analysed extensively!!
Seriously though, if you can, watch the two scenes side-by side yourself.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:24
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jlb524 wrote...
LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Wow, I've never really noticed just how powerful and moving that sad, distant stare is after Liara turns her head away. Very touching, and poignant.
I wonder what L-Doc is thinking when she turns her head away?
probably rethinking of it all?
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:27
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
muskettman87 wrote...
Yeah, your on to something, putting the gifs side-by-side its much more clear how badly shes hurting during the kiss than the hug.
hmm, those slow moving gifs really give you time to notice just how much the kiss is affecting her. Its actually quite sad.
I know, muskett.
People have actually called me crazy in the past for this, and insist that there's no difference, but do you know that there are subtle variations in the Liara reunion scene dependant on whether you romanced her or not? I compared to two side-by-side using YouTube, and if you romanced Liara she seems a little warmer. There is less frowning, more smiling at Shepard. When she says that she can't join Shepard, it's more reluctant and apologetic compared to the more irritated and snappy response when she's not your LI.
I insist that there are these subtle differences in Liara's scenes in ME2!! People can call me crazy all they want, but I have analysed extensively!!
Seriously though, if you can, watch the two scenes side-by side yourself.
yeah there was a difference in the two. Never paid attention to that until you mentioned it. The deep feelings Liara must be experiencing would be so painful, its really sad
To see the one you love right b4 you knowing what she knew. wanting to join Shepard, yet having to deal with those who strike at the one she loves from the shadows behind the scenes...
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:28
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jlb524 wrote...
I wonder what L-Doc is thinking when she turns her head away?
Goddess, is Shepard aware of the manner in which Cerberus acquired her body? Does she hate me? Will she never want to see me again? Does she know that I was the one to hand her body over to Cerberus? She's going to hate me. She must utterly despise me. But I can't bare to live without her. I love her. I can't stay close to Shepard, as she may find out.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:31
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Basically, Liara would rather run the risk of having Shepard alive and well but hating her, than not having Shepard alive at all. She's willing to have Shepard alive, but disgusted with her as she prefers that Shepard is "there". I wonder if the fact that Shepard is alive does comfort her somewhat? The emotional pain would still be extremely intense, but the fact that Shepard still exists must be comforting to Liara on some level.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:34
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Basically, Liara would rather run the risk of having Shepard alive and well but hating her, than not having Shepard alive at all. She's willing to have Shepard alive, but disgusted with her as she prefers that Shepard is "there". I wonder if the fact that Shepard is alive does comfort her somewhat? The emotional pain would still be extremely intense, but the fact that Shepard still exists must be comforting to Liara on some level.
and thats what true love would be called, shows Liara's character.
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Posté 23 mai 2010 - 07:40
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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
People have actually called me crazy in the past for this, and insist that there's no difference, but do you know that there are subtle variations in the Liara reunion scene dependant on whether you romanced her or not?
You are crazy...I see no difference
