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justinnstuff wrote...

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Ok, I just gotta ask this real quick...am I the only one here who has yet to play through either ME as a FemShep? lol


I haven't done it yet, but I will one of these days.


Ok lol. I just had to know I wasn't the ONLY one, because it definitely seems like an overwhelming majority of people have...especially taking a look at the ME fanfic page...almost all of them are FemShep/Liara haha :lol:

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Disclaimer: I did not create that wonderful piece.  However if any of you like Tali I do have a drawing of my own, link in my siggy. Posted Image


Not bad, a lot better then I would be able to do anyway :)

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NonHuman1136 wrote...

Disclaimer: I did not create that wonderful piece.  However if any of you like Tali I do have a drawing of my own, link in my siggy. Posted Image


Tali's adorable too.  Its the only romance in ME2 I bothered to do. :lol:

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Driveninhifi wrote...

That's an awesome drawing.
Something that seems weird to me:
There really MUST be a 3rd party keeping Liara quiet. She went through hell to bring Shepard back, is hunting the Shadow Broker to avenge him/her and yet lets Shepard leave to die without a word? That's not believable at all, unless something else is going on behind the scenes. I don't buy the "doesn't want the shadow broker to know about their love" because, well, it should be obvious given the fact that she was willing to steal a corpse. Plus if the Shadow Broker is at all competent, he'd know it anyway.


Well Nyxeris saw the kiss so,its not a secret to him anymore I guess,but even without it I agree Liara stealing the body back seems to be a very strong indication that there is some or was relationship,you dont have to be the best info broker in the galaxy to make that connection.
Although I have no idea what he would make out of this,he evidently doesnt try to take Liara hostage nor does he try to get his hands on Shepard again,Asari/Human relationships are not forbiden so theres no blackmailing oppotunity.
So basicly what the Shadow Broker would do with info on Shepards sexual preferences is anyones guess,but I doubt the collectors can make anything usefull out it.

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mrbeavis19 wrote...

Ok, I just gotta ask this real quick...am I the only one here who has yet to play through either ME as a FemShep? lol


There's quite a few people that have never played femshep. I'm actually the opposite. I haven't been able to play more than an hour as maleshep before quitting the game. I guess its whatever you originally played as and identified with is what you become accustomed to. For me it was femshep so it feels really strange to me when I try to play maleshep.

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mrbeavis19 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

mrbeavis19 wrote...

Ok, I just gotta ask this real quick...am I the only one here who has yet to play through either ME as a FemShep? lol


I haven't done it yet, but I will one of these days.


Ok lol. I just had to know I wasn't the ONLY one, because it definitely seems like an overwhelming majority of people have...especially taking a look at the ME fanfic page...almost all of them are FemShep/Liara haha :lol:


I have both, though I would consider my MaleShep/Liara to be my "main" Shep.  I do enjoy playing FemShep though, Hale is a great VA.  I just wish they had made the femShep model more feminine instead of just a skinny male model with bumps on his chest.

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Just popping in to give you guys another boost, I hope to see a little more happiness in this thread in the future tho...it is WAY too angsty in here. MOAR LOVE!!

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Just popping in to give you guys another boost, I hope to see a little more happiness in this thread in the future tho...it is WAY too angsty in here. MOAR LOVE!!


Yes, I agree. This thread needs MOAR LOVE!!

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I'll probably have three Shepards to import into ME3, all female. One Paragon that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), one Renegade that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), another Paragon that was single in ME1.

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Corti78 wrote...

mrbeavis19 wrote...

Ok, I just gotta ask this real quick...am I the only one here who has yet to play through either ME as a FemShep? lol


There's quite a few people that have never played femshep. I'm actually the opposite. I haven't been able to play more than an hour as maleshep before quitting the game. I guess its whatever you originally played as and identified with is what you become accustomed to. For me it was femshep so it feels really strange to me when I try to play maleshep.


Yeah, I agree with that right there. People are like that with a lot of things. Name brands, game characters, etc etc.

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I'll probably have three Shepards to import into ME3, all female. One Paragon that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), one Renegade that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), another Paragon that was single in ME1.


If I hear Shiala is a romance I may make a single shep for that. Otherwise I won't bother.

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justinnstuff wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I'll probably have three Shepards to import into ME3, all female. One Paragon that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), one Renegade that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), another Paragon that was single in ME1.


If I hear Shiala is a romance I may make a single shep for that. Otherwise I won't bother.


Shiala...yum :wub:

*sigh* too bad Miranda would prolly kill my Sheppard if that ever happened...so I'll stay faithful to her.

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Corti78 wrote...

mrbeavis19 wrote...

Ok, I just gotta ask this real quick...am I the only one here who has yet to play through either ME as a FemShep? lol


There's quite a few people that have never played femshep. I'm actually the opposite. I haven't been able to play more than an hour as maleshep before quitting the game. I guess its whatever you originally played as and identified with is what you become accustomed to. For me it was femshep so it feels really strange to me when I try to play maleshep.


Me too.  I can't even bring myself to try it.  Shepard is female to me.  Its fixed in my brain.

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justinnstuff wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I'll probably have three Shepards to import into ME3, all female. One Paragon that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), one Renegade that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), another Paragon that was single in ME1.


If I hear Shiala is a romance I may make a single shep for that. Otherwise I won't bother.


Yeah I have my single Shep that romanced Tali that I could use for a Shiala run. :wub: 

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About DLC: it's likely it will be the cut mission where Shepard and Liara take down the Shadow Broker. That'd be my guess, anyway. Since her reasons for hunting him in the first place are so tied up in her feelings for Shepard, it would feel extremely artificial for the mission to not include some fairly in-depth discussion of their relationship.

What I wonder is whether it will be before or after the endgame.

If before, she has to stay on Ilium for SOME reason. Reading info is OK, if both characters agree that's where they can both make the best use of their talents. However, there should be some benefit - for example, she sends you tech, weapons, schematics, etc as she discovers them. There are two problems with this though: one is that it's not very believable either character would take the risk of the other dying again, and with the SB gone Liara has no ties to Ilium. Two, most people will have likely beaten the game, so they'll know they don't need Liara's help to win.



Postgame is a different story, but realistically it should end with the two attempting to repair their relationship. I'm not sure how you'd justify the two not getting back together once the Shadow Broker is gone (and Shepard is no longer in immediate danger, either). Unless, of course, some organization like Cerberus is involved and is keeping them apart. Dunno.



Hopefully they don't just ignore the relationship again, as that would seem supremely artificial and lame.

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Corti78 wrote...

mrbeavis19 wrote...

Ok, I just gotta ask this real quick...am I the only one here who has yet to play through either ME as a FemShep? lol


There's quite a few people that have never played femshep. I'm actually the opposite. I haven't been able to play more than an hour as maleshep before quitting the game. I guess its whatever you originally played as and identified with is what you become accustomed to. For me it was femshep so it feels really strange to me when I try to play maleshep.


Or just the fact that I'm a guy, so that helps me relate too lol

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Littledoom wrote...

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Disclaimer: I did not create that wonderful piece.  However if any of you like Tali I do have a drawing of my own, link in my siggy. Posted Image


Not bad, a lot better then I would be able to do anyway :)

Thankie Posted Image

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justinnstuff wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I'll probably have three Shepards to import into ME3, all female. One Paragon that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), one Renegade that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), another Paragon that was single in ME1.


If I hear Shiala is a romance I may make a single shep for that. Otherwise I won't bother.


*wonders if the "Can I have you both?" option would work on Shiala and Liara* :wub:

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About DLC: it's likely it will be the cut mission where Shepard and Liara take down the Shadow Broker. That'd be my guess, anyway. Since her reasons for hunting him in the first place are so tied up in her feelings for Shepard, it would feel extremely artificial for the mission to not include some fairly in-depth discussion of their relationship.
What I wonder is whether it will be before or after the endgame.
If before, she has to stay on Ilium for SOME reason. Reading info is OK, if both characters agree that's where they can both make the best use of their talents. However, there should be some benefit - for example, she sends you tech, weapons, schematics, etc as she discovers them. There are two problems with this though: one is that it's not very believable either character would take the risk of the other dying again, and with the SB gone Liara has no ties to Ilium. Two, most people will have likely beaten the game, so they'll know they don't need Liara's help to win.

Postgame is a different story, but realistically it should end with the two attempting to repair their relationship. I'm not sure how you'd justify the two not getting back together once the Shadow Broker is gone (and Shepard is no longer in immediate danger, either). Unless, of course, some organization like Cerberus is involved and is keeping them apart. Dunno.

Hopefully they don't just ignore the relationship again, as that would seem supremely artificial and lame.


If they just ignore the relationship again, well consider me one less ME fan. I'm being optimistic for future DLC and the comic, and I think they'll do alright. I won't pay or download a DLC that gives me the Liara ME2 "reunion" twice.

On the sunny side, I'd like the DLC to take place after the collector base and take out the SB.

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justinnstuff wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I'll probably have three Shepards to import into ME3, all female. One Paragon that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), one Renegade that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), another Paragon that was single in ME1.


If I hear Shiala is a romance I may make a single shep for that. Otherwise I won't bother.


I might have a Infiltrator that's still single for the chance off that being a opportunity, but don't spread it around :whistle:

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I've got my canon and main Paragon MaleShep that romanced Liara, stayed loyal to her that will be imprted into ME3, and I'm also going to start a Paragade FemShep that will romance Liara, stay loyal to her and then will be carried into ME3.

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Driveninhifi wrote...

What I wonder is whether it will be before or after the endgame.


I'd like to see a bit of both.  Re-do the initial "reunion" and add two or three more pre-suicide encouters where Liara calls you back for help doing little things like the hacking missions, etc.  Expand the "reunion" across these 3 or 4 call backs expanding on it each time till we get to the same place we are now, just with a lot more emotion and exposition.  All in all expanding the 'reunion' from the 3 minutes or so it is now to like 12-15 minutes at most.

Then, post suicide mission the bulk of the expac comes in with the 12-15 hour hunt the Shadow Broker story and all the 'reconnecting' between Liara and Shep, further explanation on what happened to her over the two years, restart the romance fairly early post suicide mission and give it an actual continuation now that we don't need to have the 'rocky' part anymore (if they are LI's in ME1 obviously), tie up the SB and Feron stuff however BW has planned, the obligatory shooting stuff missions, then bring her back to the Normandy and move her into the Captain's Cabin with a very touching ending scene if they are LI's.

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Corti78 wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

I'll probably have three Shepards to import into ME3, all female. One Paragon that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), one Renegade that romanced Liara (and stayed loyal), another Paragon that was single in ME1.


If I hear Shiala is a romance I may make a single shep for that. Otherwise I won't bother.


*wonders if the "Can I have you both?" option would work on Shiala and Liara* :wub:


/head explodes

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Shepard's reaction here is pretty close to his behavior during the "reunion"...if you could even call it that.





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I am thinking the notion of Cerberus being active in Liara's protection/silence is becoming more and more likely. This was the last organization she had contact with after giving over Shepard's body, and I have a feeling they would want to keep her silent about their dealings. Now, they can either kill her outright to shut her up or work something out where she serves a valuable role but STAYS AWAY from Shepard and distracting her/him from the mission.

The Illusive Man obviously doesn't care that much if you flirt and have sex with your immediate crew. Perhaps he sees it as a stress reliever, which is of benefit to the mission. Maybe he also thinks it will make you perform in battle better, as the Sacred Band of Thebes paired gay lovers together so they would fight to the death. A non-ship romance changes everything. Asking Liara too many damn questions threatens things. Who else would have the power to protect the Asari and set her up in the Information Business?

We have seen Cerberus can help those it considers valuable. Miranda's sisters parents, for example, get nice jobs with good money.  Also why else would the Shadow Broker "lie" about Liara working for the Shadow Broker and tell you basically not to trust her?  Maybe he is afraid she will say too damn much.  Maybe Liara is worried not so much about the Shadow Broker watching her, but someone else as well.  That WOULD be an interesting turn of events.  Otherwise, Liara's role seems so hamfisted...

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