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I do believe I promised a rough draft (and I do mean rough) excerpt of my Liara/Miranda story. Anybody still interested?


LiaraxMiranda:wub:  I'd like to read. 

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Here you go. Liara-centric, as promised.

Miranda moved to stand beside Liara. She watched the technicians working on Peter as if she saw such things every day. Maybe she did. She'd been casual about the violence on Omega, even cracked jokes about blowing a krogan's brains out. Peter had made jokes as well. He'd told her that it was either laugh or go crazy. All soldiers were like that, he said. The good ones, anyway. Liara didn't think she would ever be a good soldier. A good soldier would have found a way to save both Feron and Peter. Peter would have found a way. She closed her eyes. I should have been stronger. Next time, I will be stronger.

Miranda must have read the distress on her face because she rested a hand on Liara's shoulder. It felt warm and solid, and Liara relaxed slightly. "You did very well. Better than any of us could have hoped. I just wish I had better news to give you."

Liara's head snapped up. "Better news?" Her voice sounded faint, as if it came from inside a deep well.

"It's possible that we won't be able to restore Commander Shepard. Decomposition was far worse than I hoped." Contempt crept into her voice. "There were preservation systems in the pod, of course, but they were far from ideal. Closer to what you would use to refrigerate a piece of meat that to preserve a corpse."

And there was that word again. Meat. Liara jerked away and turned her back. It had all been for nothing. She had chosen to save Peter—no, his corpse—over a living, breathing drell. She had signed Feron's death warrant. Now Cerberus was telling her that they might not be able to bring Shepard back? She hardly knew whether she wanted to laugh or punch something. "Then let the dead rest. Better to call the whole thing off than get your hopes up and drag out your disappointment. Dead is dead. I ought to have known better."

"Are you talking about me? Or yourself?" Liara heard the clatter of boots on metal. "The Illusive Man remains very hopeful about the prospect of success. We're willing to spend every credit we have to bring Shepard back. It may take years, but I promise you we'll try everything." Se placed her hands on Liara's arms and gently turned her to face her. "It's true that no one has ever managed to bring back a human being who is quite as... damaged as Shepard. But there was also a time when we couldn't even travel to our own moon, let alone explore the galaxy. Now look at us. So don't you dare tell me that I shouldn't try."

They stared at one another. Miranda's eyes were dark and she trembled slightly. She really did believe it. It must have been a human thing. Try anything, and damn the consequences. Commit yourself totally and completely to some impossible dream and worry about what would happen when you failed better to fail spectacularly than succeed mundanely, etc. "And what about Feron?"

Miranda's expression darkened and she took a step back. "The drell knew the risks when he offered to help us. I told you that we're putting everything into bringing Shepard back. We don't have the resources to mount a rescue effort. It's unpleasant, but sometimes sacrifices have to be made for the greater good. And Shepard is our best hope of defeating the Reapers. Feron is nothing to that. You and I are nothing to that."

Her voice was clipped and calm. Sacrifices must be made, but did she have to be so calm about it? Feron had proved himself trustworthy in the end. He deserved at least a little of her grief. "So we leave him to the Shadow Broker?"

"We leave him to the Shadow Broker. If he's lucky, it will be a quick death." She frowned. "Quite frankly, the fact that the Shadow Broker was willing to hand over Shepard's body to the Collectors concerns me far more. He knows that the Collectors are agents for the Reapers. He has to. The Shadow Broker has always been mercenary, but there's mercenary and then there's insane. If the Reapers win, the Shadow Broker will be as dead as the rest of us. And the"

"Then he should be stopped." Something cold ran through Liara. Knowledge was power. Fifty thousand years ago, the Reapers had used the census data and other information stored on the Citadel to hunt the Protheans to extinction. She had used her knowledge of the Protheans to help find the Conduit and defeat Sovereign. She, Peter, and the rest of the Normandy crew had denied the Reapers access to the Citadel's vast library of information. But if the Shadow Broker could be turned, that would be better than the Citadel. The Reapers would know every secret, every weakness in the galaxy. "Do you think it's possible that he was indoctrinated like Saren was?"

"Anything's possible." She looked genuinely disturbed by the thought. "If you are right, then we all made an even more powerful enemy that I thought. And Cerberus doesn't have the resources to stop him. I'm not sure anyone does."

Someone should try. "You said reviving Peter might take years?" So would taking down the Shadow Broker. Even if Peter despised her for giving his body to Cerberus, maybe he would forgive her if she eliminated the person responsible for attempting to sell his body to the Collectors in the first place. And if the Shadow Broker was working with the Reapers, she would still be doing her part to help save the galaxy. Her mother had been more than a powerful biotic. She had been well-connected. Powerful people old her favors—favors they would be more than happy to repay to her daughter. None of them would know the Shadow Broker's true identity, but one of them might know someone who knew someone who could provide the first clue.

"Let me put it this way: I wouldn't sit around here waiting for Shepard to wake up."

Liara almost smiled. "Don't worry. I won't."



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I love it, jtav! You've read the last issue of the comic, I take it? Hee hee!

I like how you expand upon the scene and give Liara a more convincing reason to go after the SB...using her guilt over handing Shep's body to Cerberus.

One type I noticed here in the 6th paragraph:

Se placed her hands on Liara's arms and gently turned her to face her. "It's true that no one has ever managed to bring back a human being who is quite as... damaged as Shepard.

But that's all.  I think Liara and Miranda are in character, so that's most important :)

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Thanks. *fixes typos*



TMA was actually kind enough to type out all of Miranda's scenes for me, so I'm working from that. I was actually nerous about my characterization of Liara.

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jtav wrote...

Thanks. *fixes typos*

TMA was actually kind enough to type out all of Miranda's scenes for me, so I'm working from that. I was actually nerous about my characterization of Liara.


It's good so far...you've captured her social awkwardness, but also her loyaly/self-confidence well.

I'm curious how you will depict the two in more intimate interactions.

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Very good, jtav. You did better conveying everyone's motives then what's in the comic. Can't wait to read the rest.

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I like it jtav!

Like jlb, can't wait to see how they are in a more intimate setting.

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hey folks how's it going hey Sunnie.

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I did just notice that Liara's outer cheek (near her head fringes) looks 'flushed' like she's blushing in this pre-Shepard kiss pic...



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or, maybe I'm just nuts?

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Its funny you should mention that, J. I have a wallpaper on my laptop thats a close-up of her face from ME2, and I was thinking the exact same thing earlier today.

The "blush" appears perminant (not just pre-kiss,of course I could be wrong), but I denfinitly noticed it as well.

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Yeah, I noticed it in other shots as well. It's not there in ME1 shots, though. Must just be makeup?

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Makeup would make sense, she spends a lot more time in the public eye and around people in ME2.



It could also be the lighting in her office? I mean it does conflict with her skin tone quite a bit. It could be a side-effect?

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She's definitely wearing more makeup (eyeliner), so I think its' makeup.

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jtav wrote...

Here you go. Liara-centric, as promised.

Miranda moved to stand beside Liara. She watched the technicians working on Peter as if she saw such things every day. Maybe she did. She'd been casual about the violence on Omega, even cracked jokes about blowing a krogan's brains out. Peter had made jokes as well. He'd told her that it was either laugh or go crazy. All soldiers were like that, he said. The good ones, anyway. Liara didn't think she would ever be a good soldier. A good soldier would have found a way to save both Feron and Peter. Peter would have found a way. She closed her eyes. I should have been stronger. Next time, I will be stronger.

Miranda must have read the distress on her face because she rested a hand on Liara's shoulder. It felt warm and solid, and Liara relaxed slightly. "You did very well. Better than any of us could have hoped. I just wish I had better news to give you."

Liara's head snapped up. "Better news?" Her voice sounded faint, as if it came from inside a deep well.

"It's possible that we won't be able to restore Commander Shepard. Decomposition was far worse than I hoped." Contempt crept into her voice. "There were preservation systems in the pod, of course, but they were far from ideal. Closer to what you would use to refrigerate a piece of meat that to preserve a corpse."

And there was that word again. Meat. Liara jerked away and turned her back. It had all been for nothing. She had chosen to save Peter—no, his corpse—over a living, breathing drell. She had signed Feron's death warrant. Now Cerberus was telling her that they might not be able to bring Shepard back? She hardly knew whether she wanted to laugh or punch something. "Then let the dead rest. Better to call the whole thing off than get your hopes up and drag out your disappointment. Dead is dead. I ought to have known better."

"Are you talking about me? Or yourself?" Liara heard the clatter of boots on metal. "The Illusive Man remains very hopeful about the prospect of success. We're willing to spend every credit we have to bring Shepard back. It may take years, but I promise you we'll try everything." Se placed her hands on Liara's arms and gently turned her to face her. "It's true that no one has ever managed to bring back a human being who is quite as... damaged as Shepard. But there was also a time when we couldn't even travel to our own moon, let alone explore the galaxy. Now look at us. So don't you dare tell me that I shouldn't try."

They stared at one another. Miranda's eyes were dark and she trembled slightly. She really did believe it. It must have been a human thing. Try anything, and damn the consequences. Commit yourself totally and completely to some impossible dream and worry about what would happen when you failed better to fail spectacularly than succeed mundanely, etc. "And what about Feron?"

Miranda's expression darkened and she took a step back. "The drell knew the risks when he offered to help us. I told you that we're putting everything into bringing Shepard back. We don't have the resources to mount a rescue effort. It's unpleasant, but sometimes sacrifices have to be made for the greater good. And Shepard is our best hope of defeating the Reapers. Feron is nothing to that. You and I are nothing to that."

Her voice was clipped and calm. Sacrifices must be made, but did she have to be so calm about it? Feron had proved himself trustworthy in the end. He deserved at least a little of her grief. "So we leave him to the Shadow Broker?"

"We leave him to the Shadow Broker. If he's lucky, it will be a quick death." She frowned. "Quite frankly, the fact that the Shadow Broker was willing to hand over Shepard's body to the Collectors concerns me far more. He knows that the Collectors are agents for the Reapers. He has to. The Shadow Broker has always been mercenary, but there's mercenary and then there's insane. If the Reapers win, the Shadow Broker will be as dead as the rest of us. And the"

"Then he should be stopped." Something cold ran through Liara. Knowledge was power. Fifty thousand years ago, the Reapers had used the census data and other information stored on the Citadel to hunt the Protheans to extinction. She had used her knowledge of the Protheans to help find the Conduit and defeat Sovereign. She, Peter, and the rest of the Normandy crew had denied the Reapers access to the Citadel's vast library of information. But if the Shadow Broker could be turned, that would be better than the Citadel. The Reapers would know every secret, every weakness in the galaxy. "Do you think it's possible that he was indoctrinated like Saren was?"

"Anything's possible." She looked genuinely disturbed by the thought. "If you are right, then we all made an even more powerful enemy that I thought. And Cerberus doesn't have the resources to stop him. I'm not sure anyone does."

Someone should try. "You said reviving Peter might take years?" So would taking down the Shadow Broker. Even if Peter despised her for giving his body to Cerberus, maybe he would forgive her if she eliminated the person responsible for attempting to sell his body to the Collectors in the first place. And if the Shadow Broker was working with the Reapers, she would still be doing her part to help save the galaxy. Her mother had been more than a powerful biotic. She had been well-connected. Powerful people old her favors—favors they would be more than happy to repay to her daughter. None of them would know the Shadow Broker's true identity, but one of them might know someone who knew someone who could provide the first clue.

"Let me put it this way: I wouldn't sit around here waiting for Shepard to wake up."

Liara almost smiled. "Don't worry. I won't."



JTAV ; Thanks for that. You've added some sunshine to the darkness. Keep up the good work !!!

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Hey folks, I have lots of new screenshots I'll post later after they all upload first Something funny for you!

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Hm, the thread seems to be going much slower? Is it due to the new residence, or because some did quit as they pronounced?

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bjdbwea wrote...

Hm, the thread seems to be going much slower? Is it due to the new residence, or because some did quit as they pronounced?


Well, a lot of the regulars are still around. I'm going to go on a hunch and blame the timezones.
EDIT: Although, 7 hours pass and we are still aways from the next page is certainly much slower.

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jtav, that excerpt was brilliant, and you've elaborated on alot of things that should have been presented at the end of Redemption, such as one of Liara's main driving motives for hunting down the Shadow Broker being her guilt and grief over what she had to do with Shepard, all because she didn't want to let Shepard go, as was outlined in the game by Liara herself. Thank you for including that.



I do like how you've also included something else that I theorise to be true regarding Liara's hunt for the Shadow Broker, that Liara is aware that he is assisting and has become a pawn of the Reapers, and that he needs to be stopped because he has become a menace and a threat to galactic security. Good job on including that.



Like J said, the charactersations are spot on. I can already see the start of the development of Liara and Miranda's relationship, and I'm eager to see how it's going to go when they become more intimate with each other.



All in all, great work! I can't wait to read the rest.

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Nice screenshots, Andaius. I like the last one in your first post, and the second one in your second post. Liara is beautiful!



Thanks for sharing.

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After spending a good portion of the night muti-tasking, with lurking around the forum and playing xbox. It was quite refreshing to find out that quite a few people are have noticed that Liara's role was a "glorified cameo" and "underdeveloped on purpose". It seems many people are considering them clues to DLC. Its nice to see.

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muskettman87 wrote...

After spending a good portion of the night muti-tasking, with lurking around the forum and playing xbox. It was quite refreshing to find out that quite a few people are have noticed that Liara's role was a "glorified cameo" and "underdeveloped on purpose". It seems many people are considering them clues to DLC. Its nice to see.


Ah, do you mean my comments regarding the complete absence of any real kind of romance exclusive content with Liara, the inability to comfort her, and Shepard's emotional stoicism in Liara's scenes, muskett? Yeah, I think all of that was done on purpose for a very clear reason, because alot of it will be tackled in the Liara DLC or xPac.

Like I've said before, I think the "Because I couldn't let you go" dialogue path is so easy to miss for a reason. We're not actually supposed to find it, and the status quo has to be maintained that Liara is still guilty over handing Shepard's corpse over to Cerberus, and fearful that Shepard will hate her. It's why Shepard is as emotional as a bag of bricks.

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What emotional bag of bricks? nah.....:mellow::P^_^
Also no one like my little comic? :whistle:

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