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[kraidy1117]

jlb524 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Don't expect much for the mE and ME2 LI in ME3. After the last interview with Casey, expect ME3 to suck big time.

I never did...we had many discussions on this before.  Now I see you are starting to come around.

I think I am just going to stop reading Casey interviews, they just make me more bitter and angry <_<

[jtav]

I figure, at best, Shepard's lifespan will be similar to Miranda's and he'll age someone more slowly than the average human. Anything much beyond that, and things start getting tragic for him because he'll outlive everyone he's ever known and loved that isn't Liara, and perhaps even their children.

[leeboi2]

What evidence do you have that Shep's life will be shorter :S It obviously won't be as long as Miri, who could theoretically live to 225+ But yeah, it should be average, or a bit higher if they keep healthy.

[jlb524]

@Noxis



That's right, Liara could die before Shepard....then, do you expect Shepard to move on or not? That, of course, would depend on the player.

[kraidy1117]

jtav wrote...

I figure, at best, Shepard's lifespan will be similar to Miranda's and he'll age someone more slowly than the average human. Anything much beyond that, and things start getting tragic for him because he'll outlive everyone he's ever known and loved that isn't Liara, and perhaps even their children.

I don't think so Jtav, Miri was made to be a succesor to Mr.Lawsons legacy, she was made to livelonger and age more lsow. Shepard was brought back for one purpose, to stop the Collectors. If Shepard survived, then his new purpose is to stop the Reapers.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Yeah, I get that, but what I'm asking is whether it ruins the tragic element to the Shepard/Liara romance in your eyes, J? If Shepard's lifespan is increased dramatically?

Just wondering, as you seem to think the tragic dynamic to their romance to be pretty compelling.

Well, yeah, if Shepard's life span is increased by 800 years and only dies a century before Liara, that would remove that tragic element.  Liara would spend the vast majority of her life with Shepard, instead of a small fraction....roughly just 1/10th of her life.

[kraidy1117]

leeboi2 wrote...

What evidence do you have that Shep's life will be shorter :S It obviously won't be as long as Miri, who could theoretically live to 225+ But yeah, it should be average, or a bit higher if they keep healthy.

Just listen to Wilson and Miri's logs. Shepard is barly even human anymore and was brought back tostop the collectors. Thats it, this is made clear if Shepard does die, TIM even says that was his/her purpose.

[Andaius20]

Well they said average human life is now 150, but shep has cybernetics and Genetic manipulation on top of that. Miri doesn't she just has Genetic manipulation.

[Noxis6]

So Shepard runs on batteries that run out when the last reaper explodes or does someone flip a switch then?

Well while I wouldnt say Bioware making such a twist is beyond possible it would really suck,same with the supposed "heroic" death in battle every soldier dreams of at least if you believe Hollywood

But anyway sure they can pull the whole "implants failing" thing to add more "darkness" or whatever

[kraidy1117]

Andaius20 wrote...

Well they said average human life is now 150, but shep has cybernetics and Genetic manipulation on top of that. Miri doesn't she just has Genetic manipulation.

Not the point, Miri was designed to live longer, iif anything she will live to be about 250 because how she was designed, Shepard was designed to take odwn the Collectors, thus they did alot of shhortcuts and even added things that will make Shgepard come back, but not for long. I expect Shepard to die at least 105-110.

[jlb524]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Well, yeah, if Shepard's life span is increased by 800 years and only dies a century before Liara, that would remove that tragic element.  Liara would spend the vast majority of her life with Shepard, instead of a small fraction....roughly just 1/10th of her life.

It depends entirely upon how many years Shepard's lifespan is increased by, the greater Shep's life expectancy, the weaker the tragic element becomes. It's much more bittersweet and heartrending if Liara spends the majority of her life without the first person she ever really bonded with, compared to a fraction of that life without that person.

I don't know where the cut-off point would be for 'tragic' or 'not tragic'...I guess it would be more of a gradient. 

Like, Shepard dying just a month after they bonded for the first time is really freakin tragic!!!

[kraidy1117]

jlb524 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Well, yeah, if Shepard's life span is increased by 800 years and only dies a century before Liara, that would remove that tragic element.  Liara would spend the vast majority of her life with Shepard, instead of a small fraction....roughly just 1/10th of her life.

It depends entirely upon how many years Shepard's lifespan is increased by, the greater Shep's life expectancy, the weaker the tragic element becomes. It's much more bittersweet and heartrending if Liara spends the majority of her life without the first person she ever really bonded with, compared to a fraction of that life without that person.

I don't know where the cut-off point would be for 'tragic' or 'not tragic'...I guess it would be more of a gradient. 

Like, Shepard dying just a month after they bonded for the first time is really freakin tragic!!!

I expect Shepard to live to 105-110.

[Andaius20]

I thought "average" was 150? or was that max?

[kraidy1117]

Andaius20 wrote...

I thought "average" was 150? or was that max?

Humans live up to around there, Miri will live to around 250. Shepar will life less then a normal human because of all the crap that happen to him and plus h was designed to take down the Collectors, nothing more. Which is why I think his death would hurt Miri and Liara alot more then the other characters because both will live longer, plus both had a huge hand into bringing him back to life.

[Noxis6]

Frankly I expect Shepard to live well for whatever time gap is between ME2 and ME3 since my gut feeling tells me they will pull the good old "heroic sacrifice" to get rid of him/her for sequells and spin offs



If not well,since I speculate they implanted Shepard with reaper tech,at least that is my desperate attempt to bring some sense to the renegade "sith lord" appearance s/he might life longer then normal humans or ascend to godhood,well or just die with the reapers but we've been there

[leeboi2]

Why do you keep going on about all he was designed to do was take down Collectors? That's obviously the primary reason to bring him back but I don't think they would have invested so much so he would die younger, there's no reason at all for Shep to die younger than any other human. Their body and mind has been repaired fully, if anything the brain and organs will be 'brand new' so to speak.

[kraidy1117]

I have a feeling Shepard does have Reaper parts in him, because as we found out in ME2, Reaper tech can make life. This could also explain why everyone wask killed at the base and why Wilson tried to kill Miri. I don't think the sacerfice will be forced, it might be a choice.

[kraidy1117]

leeboi2 wrote...

Why do you keep going on about all he was designed to do was take down Collectors? That's obviously the primary reason to bring him back but I don't think they would have invested so much so he would die younger, there's no reason at all for Shep to die younger than any other human. Their body and mind has been repaired fully, if anything the brain and organs will be 'brand new' so to speak.

Watch the video where Shepard dies. TIM makes it pretty clear that was the purpose for brining Shepard back. TIm did't bring Shepard back so he could come back to his lI and have a familly, he was brought back to stop the Collectors. If Shepard survived the suicide mission, then his next purpose would be to take down the Reapers. TIM did not bring Shepard back to embrace enternity or have sex.

[Andaius20]

I thought they brought him back to fight the REAPERS not just the collectors. I think we'll get a happily ever after ending with Shep retiring.

[kraidy1117]

Andaius20 wrote...

I thought they brought him back to fight the REAPERS not just the collectors. I think we'll get a happily ever after ending with Shep retiring.

I don't know, but what TIm says if Shepard dies makes it clear that Shepard was brought back to fight the Collectors and if he survives then to fight the Reapers.

[kraidy1117]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Speaking of lifespans, I wonder if Liara will live any longer than is considered normal for an asari? She's led a very priviledged upbringing and lifestyle, and I think she is a very precociously powerful biotics. I wonder if this will lead to Liara living longer than other asari?

I don't know, in fact we have yet to even see an Asari that is over or is a thousand years old. Krogan we have seen as Wrex is 1200 years old.