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jtav wrote...

For what it's worth:

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Thanks! It is looking good so far.

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Well guys, Im off. Its almost 3 am here and I have a major assessment piece to finalise later on this arvo. See ya.

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See ya, CM. Good luck with your assessment piece.

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 pic-time:)
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CM, regarding your question about weapons training, maybe asari in Liara's social class receive mandatory weapons training, as a means of self defence? I know it's more likely the asari would rather hone their biotics, but some weapons training may be necessary too.

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Marcin R wrote...

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Haven't seen that one before, I think. :wub:

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I don't actually remember what conversation that is though. It's obviously Port Hanshan on Noveria. Is it whilst talking to Lorik Qui'in? I don't remember Liara getting aggitated or annoyed like that, though.

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Regarding Asari-Human romantic relationships and bondmating, I'd like to hear some non-dialogue conversation from non-interactable NPCs in ME3.

We have two Asari opinions on the matter.  There's the one Asari near the "front"  of Illium who is distraught because she's lost the locket that contains a picture of her human bondmate.  She clearly loved the man very much, and we get to see just how important it is for an Asari child to remember her parents.  The other Asari, near the "rear"  of Illium, the one who has the poet Krogan suitor, treats Asari-Human relationships with near-disdain.  A human will die long before his Asari bondmate, so she thinks that this somehow diminishes the importance of the union.

We don't really have any human perspective on the matter.  I'd like to hear some.   There would likely be the humans who claim that other humans entering in to a relationship with an Asari simply couldn't cut it with another human because they're dysfunctional, or because humans are "too much" for them.  That would bring out some very familiar and none-too-subtle racist overtones, though that would be the point.  I'm sure that there would be pro-human advocates who would flip their **** if Shepard were to end up with LIara.  "His child won't even have his genes!    We'd be losing the heritage of mankind's hero!"  I'd like to hear the opinions of humans who are okay with Asari-Human relationships, as they consider it the next great barrier of prejudice that must be broken down.

What do other people think?

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yorkj86 wrote...

Regarding Asari-Human romantic relationships and bondmating, I'd like to hear some non-dialogue conversation from non-interactable NPCs in ME3.

We have two Asari opinions on the matter.  There's the one Asari near the "front"  of Illium who is distraught because she's lost the locket that contains a picture of her human bondmate.  She clearly loved the man very much, and we get to see just how important it is for an Asari child to remember her parents.  The other Asari, near the "rear"  of Illium, the one who has the poet Krogan suitor, treats Asari-Human relationships with near-disdain.  A human will die long before his Asari bondmate, so she thinks that this somehow diminishes the importance of the union.

We don't really have any human perspective on the matter.  I'd like to hear some.   There would likely be the humans who claim that other humans entering in to a relationship with an Asari simply couldn't cut it with another human because they're dysfunctional, or because humans are "too much" for them.  That would bring out some very familiar and none-too-subtle racist overtones, though that would be the point.  I'm sure that there would be pro-human advocates who would flip their **** if Shepard were to end up with LIara.  "His child won't even have his genes!    We'd be losing the heritage of mankind's hero!"  I'd like to hear the opinions of humans who are okay with Asari-Human relationships, as they consider it the next great barrier of prejudice that must be broken down.

What do other people think?

i think gathering wider viewpoint would be great, cos more people would discover how great Asari are-especially [in our case] Liara:wub::wub:

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I started with ME2, which was a tad confusing and somewhat ruined the secret of the reapers in the first one, but right after I beat it I went to best buy and bought ME1. It wasn't bad, but I'd definitely recommend started with ME1, just for continuity.



Bioware has to make a choice with ME3: Do they want to sell a lot of games, or do they want to sell a good game. Selling a lot of games would mean they treat ME3 like anyone could pick it up and be instantly briefed on everything, some plot device allows you to choose what you look like and what your class is, etc. A good game would be one where an imported character is brought right into the action, no edit screen or anything, just like how you left your Shepard. Now they could do a character create screen for new players, but they stand to make a lot more money in the long run if they encourage people to buy the first two THEN the third.



And it would make sense for ME3 to take place a decade or so after, I mean, even with their advanced FTL drives, it'll take a helluva long time for the reapers to reach the galaxy, specifically a mass relay or inhabited planet.

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I agree with your sentiments, york. I'd like to hear how humans regard asari/human relationships too.



I did once actually describe the possibility of there being some kind of futuristic debate and discussion show in ME3, with the topic being Shepard's relationship with Liara. The speciest, pro human panellist would be condemning the relationship as he'd believe Shepard's legacy is being "lost", whereas the asari panellist would act very smug, pleased that Shepard's genes are entering the asari gene pool. I think that would be funny!

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I think relationships between Asari and any race (including humans) is pretty accepted, considering that's how Asari have to mate. Maybe Terra Firma has something against it, but they have something against everything non-human. Now a human mating with a turian or drell, that might generate some gasps....

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Hi Guys ^_^


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Spornicus wrote...

I think relationships between Asari and any race (including humans) is pretty accepted, considering that's how Asari have to mate. Maybe Terra Firma has something against it, but they have something against everything non-human. Now a human mating with a turian or drell, that might generate some gasps....


Well when it comes to human/alien relationships in general I would say the common population might still view them as kind of odd,given that the First Contact War was not that long ago and humanity is still very new on the galactic stage,also in terms of a Shepard/Garrus relationship I think this would raise the most eyebrows,in terms of Thane I dont know since Drell are not that prominent I guess it would give more some sort of "What is that reaction
Pro Human activists well its pretty clear they would hate it

What also would interest me is the alien view on such relationships while asari are pretty accepting,I wonder how turians for example would view it

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Spornicus wrote...

I think relationships between Asari and any race (including humans) is pretty accepted, considering that's how Asari have to mate. Maybe Terra Firma has something against it, but they have something against everything non-human. Now a human mating with a turian or drell, that might generate some gasps....


That's what I was thinking, human relationships with asari would be pretty commonplace and widely recognised and accepted, pro-human speciest bigots aside. In fact, I'd argue that the asari have a special affinity for female humans as they're almost identical to their own species in every way, without the social stigma of birthing purebloods.

If a human were to mate with a species who doesn't normally display xenophiliac tendencies, then that would raise a few eyebrows.

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Well, asari look like every species, it's their mind control at work :P 

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Spornicus wrote...

Well, asari look like every species, it's their mind control at work :P 


Hoo boy, that's opening a huge can of worms. :P

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Spornicus wrote...

Well, asari look like every species, it's their mind control at work :P 


Hoo boy, that's opening a huge can of worms. :P


Asari are soo different in every way to other races Image IPB, they are pure biotics and re the only known female raceImage IPB.

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They're not female, they're monogendered. They just all have the capacity to carry children and look like females.

But an all female alien race that's open about its sexuality? Clearly the creative team is mostly men B) 
 

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double post  >.<

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Spornicus wrote...

They're not female, they're monogendered. They just all have the capacity to carry children and look like females.

But an all female alien race that's open about its sexuality? Clearly the creative team is mostly men B) 
 



Ah my *big* mistake , i always get All female race mixed up , i now remebered when Liara stated on the Normanday SR1 that they arent really "female" As such.

Still i am female and i find her cute Image IPB

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I'm comfortable with the asari being the fanservice race. It doesn't bother me. Fanservice isn't necessarily a bad thing, either.



It's like how the drell are male alien fanservice. Thane was specifically designed to appeal to female gamers.

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To view the matter from another perspective, I'd like to know what Asari think about Asari relationships with human males, since they're not quite as similar to Asari as human females. Some people on the forums think that the Asari are attracted to a person's mind first, however, and his/her body second. Thus, Asari form their first impressions of a person by judging his/her mind first.

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I didn't find Thane anymore attractive than I did Mordin..



I like Liara for who she is ^_^

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

It's like how the drell are male alien fanservice. Thane was specifically designed to appeal to female gamers.


You'd think that it was the Turians who were designed to appeal to female gamers, considering the unending swarms of Garrus fangirls, no disrespect intended.