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[jlb524]

Jestina wrote...

Well if Jack is even remotely bisexual as is suggested in her script...then I don't think that would exclude her from romance with other females. The only thing blocking it are the game developers.

I think what they are saying, bluntly, is that Jack only finds women valuable for just sex and not for love or close companionship.

Liara, on the other hand, gives her love out freely regardless of gender.

[Spornicus]

jlb524 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

haha. You right! Anybody else noticed that any relationship of the same gender is often showed in a negative light in ME2.

Kelly f"""" anything that moves.
Morinth is a psuedo-space-sex-vampire.
Nef is dead.
Samara does not wish to have a relationship.

'Cuz it's 'dark' and 'edgy'!!

ME2 is very socially progressive, yep

I don't even want to get into the racism with Jacob's loyalty mission....

How is that racist at all? If it were a white guy, there'd be no problem, right? It's racist to focus on the fact that he's black; if you weren't racist, him being black would be totally unimportant to the mission, and it is unimportant. I honestly didn't think about his race while playing it.

[jlb524]

I just worry it, subtly, perpetuates a harmful stereotype, that was all!!



Aaaahhhh!

[leeboi2]

Hmmm...This is completely OT but KotoR1 = 7 squid (pound:wizard:) On Steam...Should I?

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Yes KOTOR is a good game.



remember to play dark side. Light side sucks.

[jtav]

Yes! KOTOR is my favorite Bioware RPG ever. Practically perfect in every way.

[jlb524]

yorkj86 wrote...

All of this "what Jacob's father did is a racist stereotype" stuff makes it sound as if everyone is precluding that a male who just happens to be black is capable of such immoral things.

I'm not saying it is inherintly racist.  It doesn't matter really what race the guy is taken out of any context, except in a society that does tend to perpetuate these stereotypes...this is why I found it troubling.

[pf17456]

Seems to me the Asari are on the fast track to becoming the dominate species in the galaxy because of their ability to mate with anyone and because of their long life span.



As far as the position Humans can take on Asari/Human relations there are three; Acceptance, Tolerance and Rejection.



In the game there is evidence of human acceptance with references made to the Consort, the fact that Asari are dancing in every 'club' as an attraction and the comments made by the locket asari on Illium about her mate who passed. Actually the only ones I could see objecting to a human/asari couple in the game are a fraction of humans from Terra Firma, or some Alliance types or Cerebrus types otherwise I don't see any evidence of objection. Certainly not on Omega or Illium the Citidal maybe if you didn't save the Council.

So I don't see Liara and Shepard having much of a problem with others accepting them as a couple and who cares if some feathers get ruffled. The substance of their relationship outweighs any other factor.

[bjdbwea]

I agree that allegations of racism are too quickly thrown around these days. For example, there was actually a thread about whether people disliked Jacob because he is black. Hello?! He's just badly written, and (female) Shepard's behaviour is simply annoying. That's all off-topic though.

I don't thing anyone at BioWare is biased either. It is obvious to me that someone figured they can make more money if they exclude certain content. This is a commercial decision, not in the least due to the media campaign against ME 1.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 03 juin 2010 - 09:17 .

[Jestina]

Jacob is the token black guy in the game.



Actually I think he's the only one other than his father, isn't he?

[Jestina]

Oh yes, i'd forgotten about Anderson.



I wonder if Asari turn bluer when they get a suntan...Liara ponders.

[leeboi2]

There's 2.2 bill Krogan on Tuchanka, so there's still quite a few of them They could do some real damage if they wanted to, even with the genophage 2.2billion Krogan is a lot.

EDIT : Wrex is definately a black man too  Just a Krogan one

Modifié par leeboi2, 03 juin 2010 - 09:58 .

[leeboi2]

yorkj86 wrote...

leeboi2 wrote...

There's 2.2 bill Krogan on Tuchanka, so there's still quite a few of them They could do some real damage if they wanted to, even with the genophage 2.2billion Krogan is a lot.

Yes, but there are far more more shorter-lived species around.  The Asari may be the most populous species overall, but they're so keen to think like other species.  I'd hate for the Asari to be at a disadvantage if some political catastrophe put them at odds with another species.  I hope they recognize the merits of being able to stand by one's self if things come to that.

Hmmm...I think in a straight fight the Alliance would beat the Asari, providing nobody interrupts of course, the humans are probably up for full on war with the Turians, so yeah, if they wanted to they could prbably take the Asari.

[WilliamShatner]

Spornicus wrote...

I started with ME2, which was a tad confusing and somewhat ruined the secret of the reapers in the first one, but right after I beat it I went to best buy and bought ME1. It wasn't bad, but I'd definitely recommend started with ME1, just for continuity.

Bioware has to make a choice with ME3: Do they want to sell a lot of games, or do they want to sell a good game. Selling a lot of games would mean they treat ME3 like anyone could pick it up and be instantly briefed on everything, some plot device allows you to choose what you look like and what your class is, etc. A good game would be one where an imported character is brought right into the action, no edit screen or anything, just like how you left your Shepard. Now they could do a character create screen for new players, but they stand to make a lot more money in the long run if they encourage people to buy the first two THEN the third.

And it would make sense for ME3 to take place a decade or so after, I mean, even with their advanced FTL drives, it'll take a helluva long time for the reapers to reach the galaxy, specifically a mass relay or inhabited planet.

Considering the interview I quoted in the page before Casey and boys will be going for the "sell a lot of  games" approach.

[Noxis6]

I think people really overestimate the Alliance,I would say its territory and fleets are smaller then those of the other council races,though of course since humans always have to be special in someway they of course are somehow number one in the galaxy after what was it around 30 years after first contact

[WilliamShatner]

Spornicus wrote...

They're not female, they're monogendered. They just all have the capacity to carry children and look like females.

But an all female alien race that's open about its sexuality? Clearly the creative team is mostly men  
 

To quote Lyle Lanley:

"MONO = ONE."

Not none.

Asari have a gender.  That gender by all our defintions is female. 

[TMA LIVE]

Just listened to what Shepard's says if you hit the "So am I" instead of "I'm not" response. It's really scary seeing Shepard blame her for everything, and her trying to apologies. It reminded me of the old abusive husband and the desperate house wife kind of relationship. I guess it'll be like that for renegades.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 03 juin 2010 - 10:20 .