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[Mithran88]

jlb524 wrote...

jtav wrote...

I don't think Legion's chances are good. You can sell him to Cerberus after all, and he fails to upload his programs when he dies. So no Legion 2.0. And I don't think they'd bring Miranda back and cameo the other ME2 LIs. Part of my really wants this to be like TOB where ther survivors are your squad choices. Kill half the team? Too bad. But they won't.

I like how they did TOB, and if ME3 was treated as an 'expansion' in a sense, I see no problem with them just porting over the surviving characters.  BW wrote dialog for all BG2 squadmates, regardless if you were to use them in TOB or not.    They also wrote TOB romances for all 4 LIs in that game, regardless if

*BG2 spoilers*

you let them die after becoming vampirized.

However, it seems they want to attract 'new gamers' to the ME franchise with ME3 and they will probably focus on changing up the game engine again (if they want to bring in multi-player).   Therefore, I worry they will focus less on the old characters.

Pretty sure I remember Casey saying they were not going to change much from ME2 to ME3 in one of his interviews. They don't have to focus on changing and or adding stuff in order to bring new gamers into the game.
There are several other hints towards this that suggest no one should really need to worry so much. Time is more the fear, if they somehow do manage to mess the game up we have to wait 2yrs or less to find out. This creates a lot of time to over analyse everything and doubt that it could be done right. There is a large chance the game could be ruined and have a lot of angry players me being one of them if they did. However to a sense there is just as much chance they could pull it off and create something epic. Bioware has created a lot of great games, but just like all the other companies they have ruined a few in my personal opinion. 

[jlb524]

Mithran88 wrote...

Pretty sure I remember Casey saying they were not going to change much from ME2 to ME3 in one of his interviews. They don't have to focus on changing and or adding stuff in order to bring new gamers into the game.
There are several other hints towards this that suggest no one should really need to worry so much. Time is more the fear, if they somehow do manage to mess the game up we have to wait 2yrs or less to find out. This creates a lot of time to over analyse everything and doubt that it could be done right. There is a large chance the game could be ruined and have a lot of angry players me being one of them if they did. However to a sense there is just as much chance they could pull it off and create something epic. Bioware has created a lot of great games, but just like all the other companies they have ruined a few in my personal opinion. 

I thought the same...until CHud said they will aim at bringing in noobs again for ME3.  This tells me they will scrap a lot of the old ME2 characters and their backstories and 'reset' the ones that they do bring on as squad mates.

Liara, for instance, could easily be brought on as an ME3 squad mate and introduced to new players, as she can't die and is guarunteed to be there (as were Tali/Garrus for ME2).  However, her character and romance might not be affected much by the past decisions made by players who have known her throughout the trilogy, as they  played ME1 and ME2.  Then, they would also have to consider players who jumped in at ME2, who only know the information broker side of Liara's character.  They have to consider them as well as ME3 noobs.

That totally sucks, IMO.

Modifié par jlb524, 04 juin 2010 - 03:41 .

[Sunnie]

jlb524 wrote...

Mithran88 wrote...

Pretty sure I remember Casey saying they were not going to change much from ME2 to ME3 in one of his interviews. They don't have to focus on changing and or adding stuff in order to bring new gamers into the game.
There are several other hints towards this that suggest no one should really need to worry so much. Time is more the fear, if they somehow do manage to mess the game up we have to wait 2yrs or less to find out. This creates a lot of time to over analyse everything and doubt that it could be done right. There is a large chance the game could be ruined and have a lot of angry players me being one of them if they did. However to a sense there is just as much chance they could pull it off and create something epic. Bioware has created a lot of great games, but just like all the other companies they have ruined a few in my personal opinion. 

I thought the same...until CHud said they will aim at bringing in noobs again for ME3.  This tells me they will scrap a lot of the old ME2 characters and their backstories and 'reset' the ones that they do bring on as squad mates.

Liara, for instance, could easily be brought on as an ME3 squad mate and introduced to new players, as she can't die and is guarunteed to be there (as were Tali/Garrus for ME2).  However, her character and romance might not be affected much by the past decisions made by players who have known her throughout the trilogy, as they  played ME1 and ME2.

That totally sucks, IMO.

agree 1000%, the whole search for new players who don't need to play previous games does not bode well for our beloved characters!

Modifié par Sunnie22, 04 juin 2010 - 03:43 .

[kraidy1117]

Sunnie22 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Mithran88 wrote...

Pretty sure I remember Casey saying they were not going to change much from ME2 to ME3 in one of his interviews. They don't have to focus on changing and or adding stuff in order to bring new gamers into the game.
There are several other hints towards this that suggest no one should really need to worry so much. Time is more the fear, if they somehow do manage to mess the game up we have to wait 2yrs or less to find out. This creates a lot of time to over analyse everything and doubt that it could be done right. There is a large chance the game could be ruined and have a lot of angry players me being one of them if they did. However to a sense there is just as much chance they could pull it off and create something epic. Bioware has created a lot of great games, but just like all the other companies they have ruined a few in my personal opinion. 

I thought the same...until CHud said they will aim at bringing in noobs again for ME3.  This tells me they will scrap a lot of the old ME2 characters and their backstories and 'reset' the ones that they do bring on as squad mates.

Liara, for instance, could easily be brought on as an ME3 squad mate and introduced to new players, as she can't die and is guarunteed to be there (as were Tali/Garrus for ME2).  However, her character and romance might not be affected much by the past decisions made by players who have known her throughout the trilogy, as they  played ME1 and ME2.

That totally sucks, IMO.

agree 1000%, the whole search for new players who don't need to play previious games does not bode well for our beloved characters!

I have a name for people who jump into the last of a trilgoy without playing the first two, they are called f*cking idiots.

[Mithran88]

jlb524 wrote...

Mithran88 wrote...

Pretty sure I remember Casey saying they were not going to change much from ME2 to ME3 in one of his interviews. They don't have to focus on changing and or adding stuff in order to bring new gamers into the game.
There are several other hints towards this that suggest no one should really need to worry so much. Time is more the fear, if they somehow do manage to mess the game up we have to wait 2yrs or less to find out. This creates a lot of time to over analyse everything and doubt that it could be done right. There is a large chance the game could be ruined and have a lot of angry players me being one of them if they did. However to a sense there is just as much chance they could pull it off and create something epic. Bioware has created a lot of great games, but just like all the other companies they have ruined a few in my personal opinion. 

I thought the same...until CHud said they will aim at bringing in noobs again for ME3.  This tells me they will scrap a lot of the old ME2 characters and their backstories and 'reset' the ones that they do bring on as squad mates.

Liara, for instance, could easily be brought on as an ME3 squad mate and introduced to new players, as she can't die and is guarunteed to be there (as were Tali/Garrus for ME2).  However, her character and romance might not be affected much by the past decisions made by players who have known her throughout the trilogy, as they  played ME1 and ME2.  Then, they would also have to consider players who jumped in at ME2, who only know the information broker side of Liara's character.  They have to consider them as well as ME3 noobs.

That totally sucks, IMO.

True, that would completely suck.. the worse part is waiting SO long for Mass Effect 3 to arrive to finally see if its an epic fail or epically good. 

[jlb524]

It doesn't bode well for any fans! Either your favorite character will be cameoed, or your relationship with them will be reset.



I don't know which is worse.

[kraidy1117]

I expect ME3 to be a epic fail, go into ME3 with very low expatations and you will be happy.

[Mithran88]

However I'm going to make sure to focus on other stuff as long as I can. To worry over something I can not change by any means for 2yrs is frustrating enough. Always the chance they get this right as well. As I keep saying though only time can tell.

[kraidy1117]

jlb524 wrote...

It doesn't bode well for any fans! Either your favorite character will be cameoed, or your relationship with them will be reset.

I don't know which is worse.

I rather take a cameo then a reset.

"We already had sex...."
"Does not matter, we will have our first time again!!"

[jlb524]

kraidy1117 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

It doesn't bode well for any fans! Either your favorite character will be cameoed, or your relationship with them will be reset.

I don't know which is worse.

I rather take a cameo then a reset.

"We already had sex...."
"Does not matter, we will have our first time again!!"

That's true...if they are a squad mate, they will have to make them 're-romanceable' for the new players and the whole thing will probably suffer from a reset.  At least cameos have a better chance of sticking to the old relationship, as they are smaller.

[Sunnie]

kraidy1117 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Mithran88 wrote...

Pretty sure I remember Casey saying they were not going to change much from ME2 to ME3 in one of his interviews. They don't have to focus on changing and or adding stuff in order to bring new gamers into the game.
There are several other hints towards this that suggest no one should really need to worry so much. Time is more the fear, if they somehow do manage to mess the game up we have to wait 2yrs or less to find out. This creates a lot of time to over analyse everything and doubt that it could be done right. There is a large chance the game could be ruined and have a lot of angry players me being one of them if they did. However to a sense there is just as much chance they could pull it off and create something epic. Bioware has created a lot of great games, but just like all the other companies they have ruined a few in my personal opinion. 

I thought the same...until CHud said they will aim at bringing in noobs again for ME3.  This tells me they will scrap a lot of the old ME2 characters and their backstories and 'reset' the ones that they do bring on as squad mates.

Liara, for instance, could easily be brought on as an ME3 squad mate and introduced to new players, as she can't die and is guarunteed to be there (as were Tali/Garrus for ME2).  However, her character and romance might not be affected much by the past decisions made by players who have known her throughout the trilogy, as they  played ME1 and ME2.

That totally sucks, IMO.

agree 1000%, the whole search for new players who don't need to play previious games does not bode well for our beloved characters!

I have a name for people who jump into the last of a trilgoy without playing the first two, they are called f*cking idiots.

I have names for developers that do that, can't use them in this forum...

[Worrywort]

I consider myself an optimist, but damn this talk about ME3 doesn't sound good. What the hell is the point in trying to bring new players into the final chapter of a trilogy?

[Worrywort]

yorkj86 wrote...

Worrywort wrote...

I consider myself an optimist, but damn this talk about ME3 doesn't sound good. What the hell is the point in trying to bring new players into the final chapter of a trilogy?

Money money money money money money money money money money money money.

Yeah I kinda figured that... 

[Ulathar]

That's exactly what I've been asking myself since CHud said that.....who starts a Trilogy with part 3?! That doesn't make any sense....and this course of action doesn't guarantee that BW will get new players, but makes those they already have unhappy .....

They'll have to give both new and "old" players almost the same experience, so we'll just get one line of acknowledgement that we played ME1 and ME2 and that'll be it. The rest will be the same for everyone so there'll be either a romance reset or every romance-option (ME1 and ME2) will be cameoed (again)..... :-/

[Ulathar]

That sounds awesome, york. I'm looking forward to it :-)

[Mithran88]

yorkj86 wrote...

Worrywort wrote...

I consider myself an optimist, but damn this talk about ME3 doesn't sound good. What the hell is the point in trying to bring new players into the final chapter of a trilogy?

Money money money money money money money money money money money money.

sad but true... 

[kraidy1117]

Sunnie22 wrote...

kraidy1117 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Mithran88 wrote...

Pretty sure I remember Casey saying they were not going to change much from ME2 to ME3 in one of his interviews. They don't have to focus on changing and or adding stuff in order to bring new gamers into the game.
There are several other hints towards this that suggest no one should really need to worry so much. Time is more the fear, if they somehow do manage to mess the game up we have to wait 2yrs or less to find out. This creates a lot of time to over analyse everything and doubt that it could be done right. There is a large chance the game could be ruined and have a lot of angry players me being one of them if they did. However to a sense there is just as much chance they could pull it off and create something epic. Bioware has created a lot of great games, but just like all the other companies they have ruined a few in my personal opinion. 

I thought the same...until CHud said they will aim at bringing in noobs again for ME3.  This tells me they will scrap a lot of the old ME2 characters and their backstories and 'reset' the ones that they do bring on as squad mates.

Liara, for instance, could easily be brought on as an ME3 squad mate and introduced to new players, as she can't die and is guarunteed to be there (as were Tali/Garrus for ME2).  However, her character and romance might not be affected much by the past decisions made by players who have known her throughout the trilogy, as they  played ME1 and ME2.

That totally sucks, IMO.

agree 1000%, the whole search for new players who don't need to play previious games does not bode well for our beloved characters!

I have a name for people who jump into the last of a trilgoy without playing the first two, they are called f*cking idiots.

I have names for developers that do that, can't use them in this forum...

Sunnie you have just made me intrested now

[Spornicus]

Don't count out Bioware, even if you had problems with ME2, it was still a very good game. Remember, if not for all the Harry Potter shippers, there probably wouldn't have been that epilogue in the Deathly Hallows. Actually, looking back, that was the dumbest part of the book. But it means Bioware won't just discount its legion of loyal fans. I bet your LI will carry over, and, just like in ME2, if you start fresh from ME3, it'll just act like you didn't have a romance at all and move on. But Bioware will not do that to fans (even if they copped out on Revan and the Exile to make a stupid mmo...dang I was really looking forward to seeing Revan defeat the true sith, but oh well)

[kraidy1117]

Systemlord Baal wrote...

That's exactly what I've been asking myself since CHud said that.....who starts a Trilogy with part 3?! That doesn't make any sense....and this course of action doesn't guarantee that BW will get new players, but makes those they already have unhappy .....
They'll have to give both new and "old" players almost the same experience, so we'll just get one line of acknowledgement that we played ME1 and ME2 and that'll be it. The rest will be the same for everyone so there'll be either a romance reset or every romance-option (ME1 and ME2) will be cameoed (again)..... :-/

Thats what I am expecting, I rather take a cameo then a reset. I think Bioware should just come out and say it. "We are having trouble with the whole choice porting over." it would be better then lying right to our faces, I swear Casey could be friends with Peter.

[kraidy1117]

Spornicus wrote...

Don't count out Bioware, even if you had problems with ME2, it was still a very good game. Remember, if not for all the Harry Potter shippers, there probably wouldn't have been that epilogue in the Deathly Hallows. Actually, looking back, that was the dumbest part of the book. But it means Bioware won't just discount its legion of loyal fans. I bet your LI will carry over, and, just like in ME2, if you start fresh from ME3, it'll just act like you didn't have a romance at all and move on. But Bioware will not do that to fans (even if they copped out on Revan and the Exile to make a stupid mmo...dang I was really looking forward to seeing Revan defeat the true sith, but oh well)

I am a ME2 fan mind you but every interview with Casey is making things worse and worse. Casey has officaly siad ME3 will be made for newcomers. Thats not good.

[Erinlana]

Hey guys



*hugs*

[Erinlana]

Double post >.<

Modifié par Erinlana, 04 juin 2010 - 06:46 .

[Spornicus]

Well let's hope he's exaggerating or he changes his mind come late 2011/early 2012.