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[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Systemlord Baal wrote...

I don't know...maybe the Virmire Survivor will need to help you to get the Alliance on board. I mean they may say that they don't trust you anymore, so you need Ash/Kaidan to help you out.

For what faction would I need Miranda's help for?

Forgot the Vimire survivor. And Mirianda have information on Cerberus.

[Ulathar]

Looks like my edit was too late xD



*hopes a few OT posts are ok...*

So - why would I need Miranda's help to get Cerberus on board?

[muskettman87]

Lizardviking wrote...

There are only 2 other LI who are important in the grand scheme of things. Tali and Miranda.

I'd argue Tali. In the grand scheme of things she is pretty easy to kill. No offense to Tali fans. Miranda on the other hand is almost impossible to kill unless you try to. She quit Cerberus but could still have access to their resources.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Systemlord Baal wrote...

Looks like my edit was too late xD

*hopes a few OT posts are ok...*
So - why would I need Miranda's help to get Cerberus on board?

This is just speculation. But I could imagine Miranda's knowlegde of Cerberus could come in handy in the the paragon ending.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

muskettman87 wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

There are only 2 other LI who are important in the grand scheme of things. Tali and Miranda.

I'd argue Tali. In the grand scheme of things she is pretty easy to kill. No offense to Tali fans. Miranda on the other hand is almost impossible to kill unless you try to. She quit Cerberus but could still have access to their resources.

She might be easy to kill. But she could become an ambasador between the geth and Quarians if she worked with Legion.

[Noxis6]

Systemlord Baal wrote...

I wonder if Liara gets special treatment, though. I mean she is, like you said LET, in every player's ME3 and plays a rather significant role in ME1 and ME2(by retrieving Shepard's body). Now there is the Shadow Broker situation - again significant to the plot.
In ME3 this may apply to other romance-options, too, because they'll help get the corresponding factions on board, but Liara had 2 major roles by now, so she may get something special......which might make fans of the other romancable characters angry though ....

hmpf

Well dont be to sure about Liara being special to the plot,also how significant the SB really is in the scheme of things has yet to be seen so far he has no bearing in the ME2 storyline,could just end up being a petty little vendetta of her just to keep her out of the squad maybe even for good who knows
Also what factions are the romance options supposed to get on board,Garrus is an outcast of his own people,Drell are only a client race,Liara is not really on her way to become "Empress" of all asari either,Jack has nothing to offer,Miranda is a member of a terrorist organisation same with Jacob,Ash/Kaidan well I think they got sidelined in the Alliance because ot their connection to Shepard,the only LI that could do something like that is Tali since well even if you get her exiled the door is pretty much still open to make her an Admiral

[muskettman87]

Lizardviking wrote...


She might be easy to kill. But she could become an ambasador between the geth and Quarians if she worked with Legion.

IMO easily to kill means easy to replace. But that just me.

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

The way I see it, here's what I predict the story roles may be for some of the characters in ME3:

Liara - Will discover information on the Reapers' weakpoint from the Shadow Broker's data
Ashley or Kaidan - I theorise they have succeeded Shepard as Anderson's protege and human Spectre. Can act as a liason to regain the trust of the Council and the Alliance.
Miranda - If loyal, she may usurp TIM's position as head of Cerberus, reforming the organisation and gaining another ally
Legion - Vital for a geth army
Tali - Vital for a quarian army
Wrex - Krogan army
Jacob - He has the priiize
Mordin - May find a cure for indoctrination, although the fact that he's so easy to kill in ME2 makes me doubt it.

That's just off the top of my head.

Remove Jacob from the list, and thats proberly all the plot relevant characters in ME2.

Also I think atleast Garrus, Tali, Miranda and Legion will return as squadmembers. While Characters like Thane are just begging to get cameo'd.

[Ulathar]

For every (important to the plot of ME3) squaddie who died in ME2 we'll get a same-gender sibling like they did with Wrex >.<



pic-time

[Marcin K]

Systemlord Baal wrote...

For every (important to the plot of ME3) squaddie who died in ME2 we'll get a same-gender sibling like they did with Wrex >.

pic-time

oh you were faster than me, i love this pic:wub:

[Ulathar]

yeah, the best screenshot I made so far, imo :-)

[Ulathar]

I agree. Everything on her is adorable. The smile, the eyes, the freckles, the personality....everything

[Nerevar-as]

TIM is protecting Miri´s sister from their father, so he´ll probably have Miranda back if the devs want it. He´ll probably be more angry with you if the base was destroyed, but he didn´t seem that stupid to go hostile against Shepard before Reapers are dealt with.

Tali is unclear, her status in the fleet can be too different after ME2.

Anyway, Liara and the Virmire survivor are the only squadies sure to be alive so far, so I don´t expect much from the ME2 ones. While you can´t survive with a total squad kill, they only have to make the default survivors the ones with less possible influence, i.e. Thane (death in months) and Jacob.

[Noxis6]

Nerevar-as wrote...

TIM is protecting Miri´s sister from their father, so he´ll probably have Miranda back if the devs want it. He´ll probably be more angry with you if the base was destroyed, but he didn´t seem that stupid to go hostile against Shepard before Reapers are dealt with.
Tali is unclear, her status in the fleet can be too different after ME2.
Anyway, Liara and the Virmire survivor are the only squadies sure to be alive so far, so I don´t expect much from the ME2 ones. While you can´t survive with a total squad kill, they only have to make the default survivors the ones with less possible influence, i.e. Thane (death in months) and Jacob.

Well Cerberus did a lot of stupid and pointless things  already so TIM going against Shepard is not outright impossible though somewhat unlikely,still I somewhat hope to see Cerberus to go down in flames
As for Miranda if they really go the route and have her rejoin Cerberus in case of a paragon ending anyway well that says something about the writers and its nothing good,although Miranda quiting was totally weak and came out of nowhere anyway

As for Tali,as I see it they could make her an admiral regardless of what Shepard did in her quest,even if you get her exiled she pretty much says if they find something worthwile on the Collector base they will let her back in again,I choose to take that as somewhat of a hint,though it really made me scratch my head,whats the big deal with Exile if you can go back so "easily" anyway

Also I agree that we shouldnt really expect anything from the ME2 squad in general,I fear it will be meaningless cameos all the way or in Thanes case hes just dead anyway
As for Liara Ash/Kaidan I wouldnt get my hopes too high for them either right now

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Hmm, what about the possible recruitment mission for Liara in ME3, assuming that the whole SB arc is dealt with beforehand?

Perhaps Liara needs to tie up a few loose ends on Illium, or dismantle her information network. She could be ambushed by a group of thugs or mercenaries, and both Shepard and Liara battle their way out of the mess.

If ME3 will have "loyalty missions" then her recruitment mission will be a raid on a possible safe house for the shadow broker, you won't find the SB but data on a few other possible locations.

Her loyalty mission will then be about finishing SB once and for all.

Of course there's a possibility that the SB plot will be dealt with via DLC, then we will have something completly diffrent.

[Nerevar-as]

I´ll see how they deal (if they do) with the SB thing before seriously worrying about Liara in ME3. Pity they can´t/won´t talk about what happened with this plot and why they removed most of it.

I´d rather not have a recruitment mission for Liara again, we already had Therum and that Krogan. Having her from the beginning, nothing in exchange and no string atatched, please!

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 04 juin 2010 - 10:46 .

[Noxis6]

Given that according to the cut content the SB was supposed to be dead already I dont really expect a prolonged chase of him through ME3,although I would like to get a little payoff for selling him the Cerbrerus data would be an interesting twist to end the whole thing with striking a deal with him,though thats just dreaming



Also one thing I know for sure I dont want to spent another 2/3 of a game recruiting a new squad again and making them loyal

[muskettman87]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Interview with Jillian Murray:

http://www.movieweb..../NEDAjFDMLMKiHK

She talks about Liara!

I think its funny that even she wonders how a movie about "forging your own path" will play out.

[Nerevar-as]

Noxis6 wrote...

Given that according to the cut content the SB was supposed to be dead already I dont really expect a prolonged chase of him through ME3,although I would like to get a little payoff for selling him the Cerbrerus data would be an interesting twist to end the whole thing with striking a deal with him,though thats just dreaming

Also one thing I know for sure I dont want to spent another 2/3 of a game recruiting a new squad again and making them loyal

My favorite twist would be SB having realized what he had gone into and the events of recovering Shepard´s body a plan to hand it away without getting the Collectors against him. Would also explain why he just doesn´t kill Liara. Unlikely though.

Modifié par Nerevar-as, 04 juin 2010 - 10:49 .

[bjdbwea]

Nerevar-as wrote...

I´d rather not have a recruitment mission for Liara again, we already had Therum and that Krogan. Having her from the beginning, nothing in exchange and no string atatched, please!

Indeed. Of course it would be great to have Liara as a companion. That said, if it were like the ME 2 companions, that would still be kind of disappointing. Because in my opinion, that 1+1+0 approach (one hour recruitment mission, one hour loyalty mission, zero additional involvement) is quite lame. Plus, the romances in ME 2 feel short and now way near as real and alive as those in ME 1. It all can't hold water to the way the ME 1 companions were written, or the DA companions for that matter. Having played ME 2 and now playing DA again, makes me appreciate the latter even more than I did before.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 04 juin 2010 - 10:59 .