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[pf17456]

bjdbwea wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Anyways, the fact that Liara doesn't react to Miranda, nor express any romance dialogue, nor react to Garrus or Tali, nor mention Feron by name, nor does Shepard ever wonder why TIM said she was working for the Shadow Broker, really makes me believe everything involving Liara was thought up last minute. That they just didn't know what to do with her, and kept changing her till late in the game.

I have the theory that more or less the whole story was planned quite differently, but at some point significant changes were made. The only question is, for what reason. It can only be time constraints, or that the people in charge imposed some restrictions on the writers. Effectively it was probably a combination of both, time constraints and writers having their hands tied.

Maybe the writing staff was told not to acknowledge anything in the comic series, I could understand that but the lack of former squad interaction was a huge sorespot for me, 'stand alone game' ? If so then they went too far and simply gave me the impression that the squad is either suffering from some memory deficit, or pissed off about something or the writers just dropped the ball. This all makes me wonder if juggling a comic book and an RPG produces this kind of disconnect then what will a comic, an RPG, a movie and a multiplayer platforn produce ?

I was kind of excited after finding on the Collector ship mission that the Collectors were in fact genitically modified Protheans and one of my first thoughts was to go and inform Liara but that turned out to be a disappointment as did all of the other shortcomings from the writers. Too bad they weren't more creative with story lines, dialogue and character development. They're missing a whole lot of opporunities to achieve really awesome

[Mithran88]

Hello fellow Liara fans! 
wow really dead on here tonight 

[Miranda Lawson]

Everyone is having shore leave right now.

[Calculatrice]

Miranda Lawson wrote...

Everyone is having shore leave right now.

They're searching for the shadow broker.

[Pwnisher]

Asari can make sandwiches with their biotics.

[Spornicus]

Calculatrice wrote...

Miranda Lawson wrote...

Everyone is having shore leave right now.

They're searching for the shadow broker.

Forget that, I'm using my shore leave to have a "meeting" with the consort <_<

[Noxis6]

pf17456 wrote...
Maybe the writing staff was told not to acknowledge anything in the comic series, I could understand that but the lack of former squad interaction was a huge sorespot for me, 'stand alone game' ? If so then they went too far and simply gave me the impression that the squad is either suffering from some memory deficit, or pissed off about something or the writers just dropped the ball. This all makes me wonder if juggling a comic book and an RPG produces this kind of disconnect then what will a comic, an RPG, a movie and a multiplayer platforn produce ?

I was kind of excited after finding on the Collector ship mission that the Collectors were in fact genitically modified Protheans and one of my first thoughts was to go and inform Liara but that turned out to be a disappointment as did all of the other shortcomings from the writers. Too bad they weren't more creative with story lines, dialogue and character development. They're missing a whole lot of opporunities to achieve really awesome

Well frankly the comic doesnt add that much new to the Liara situation,aside from giving a name to her friend,it shows nothing Liara doesnt tell you about in the game anyway
On squad interaction in general I have to say they all lack dialogue there is at least a ton of stuff I wanted to be able to talk about with Miranda alone,like the specifics of Project Lazarus or a more indepth discussion about Cerberus,since I never have the impression you make a dent in her loyality to them yet she quits anyway in the paragon ending
As for interaction inbetween the squadmates,that was just epic fail,sure the confrontations Jack/Miranda and Tali/Legion were somewhat nice but dont make up for the fact that their seems to be no real relationship among the squad
Also Shepard was a failure when it comes to interaction,Liaras scene is very iconic,but there are other ocassions as well like the fact that s/he is basicly indifferent about the coming back from death thing or the scene were Miranda just states she would have put a controlchip in you,I kind of expected Shepard to be more mistrusting of her after that at least for a time,but no s/he just goes with:mellow: as usual,hell you cannot even get angry at her

Also on a sidenote the whole Collectors are Protheans thing wasnt that much of a suprise for me,actually that theory was flying around on the old forums since they were introduced,though back then it was assumed they were actual survivors of the last invasion trying to create something to fight the reapers with the stuff they collect
As for Liara,well I could repost my rant from a few pages ago about what I think of ME2 Liara,but I will refrain from that

[Spornicus]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

*Alot of people theorise that an asari's figure becomes more voluptuous as they age, particularly when entering the Matriarch stage, but I think otherwise. I actually think the asari become more voluptuous as their biotic power increases. Consider Samara and Morinth. Both are very powerful biotics, with similar busty figures, and yet Morinth is hundreds of years younger than Samara. The other theory would dictate that Morinth should have smaller breasts than Samara, but this isn't the case. Therefore, I think an asari becomes more busty as her biotic power increases.

*snip*

But compare Liara to Benezia. I mean, Benezia has been around longer to hone her skills, but Liara's no amateur. I don't think their figure has anything to do with age or biotic ability, it just varies from one to another, like humans.

[Noxis6]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

*Alot of people theorise that an asari's figure becomes more voluptuous as they age, particularly when entering the Matriarch stage, but I think otherwise. I actually think the asari become more voluptuous as their biotic power increases. Consider Samara and Morinth. Both are very powerful biotics, with similar busty figures, and yet Morinth is hundreds of years younger than Samara. The other theory would dictate that Morinth should have smaller breasts than Samara, but this isn't the case. Therefore, I think an asari becomes more busty as her biotic power increases.

That one combined with what people around seem to think about Liaras biotic power and potential really gives me a weird image of an older Liara:blink:

[Spornicus]

Noxis6 wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

*Alot of people theorise that an asari's figure becomes more voluptuous as they age, particularly when entering the Matriarch stage, but I think otherwise. I actually think the asari become more voluptuous as their biotic power increases. Consider Samara and Morinth. Both are very powerful biotics, with similar busty figures, and yet Morinth is hundreds of years younger than Samara. The other theory would dictate that Morinth should have smaller breasts than Samara, but this isn't the case. Therefore, I think an asari becomes more busty as her biotic power increases.

That one combined with what people around seem to think about Liaras biotic power and potential really gives me a weird image of an older Liara:blink:

Haha nothing weird about that image at all 

[Noxis6]

Spornicus wrote...
Haha nothing weird about that image at all 

Given that people view her sort of as biotics incarnate because of her mother being somehow super special,I think we would leave the realm of physical atractiveness and enter the realm of curiousitys in that case:blink:

[Spornicus]

Gee, now I'm secretly hoping for a look into the distant future for Liara, this has certainly...piqued my interest  

[Derumiel]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
A far more voluptuous Matriarch Liara? Hmmmmmm....

Hmm.......
Something to think about. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Pity that Shepard probably won't be around to see it!

So he/she just has to enjoy the remaining time.
(or clone herself a couple of times....)

[Derumiel]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...
Alterations to her figure aside, I'm imagine that she'd lose her freckles, and that her face would lose it's youthful roundness, and become more angular and defined. Can't think of anything else!

That's what i think of, too.  But i don't think she'd loos her freckles.

... but i stay with the younger version, i think.

[Marcin K]

hey all:)

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Actually, Matriarch Liara is something I've yet to see in fanart. I wonder how she'd look, how she'd change as she ages?

Alterations to her figure aside, I'm imagine that she'd lose her freckles, and that her face would lose it's youthful roundness, and become more angular and defined. Can't think of anything else!

Matriach Liara hmm?

Or better yet!

Matriach Morinth!

That would be scary!

[Marcin K]

Lizardviking wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Actually, Matriarch Liara is something I've yet to see in fanart. I wonder how she'd look, how she'd change as she ages?

Alterations to her figure aside, I'm imagine that she'd lose her freckles, and that her face would lose it's youthful roundness, and become more angular and defined. Can't think of anything else!

Matriach Liara hmm?

Or better yet!

Matriach Morinth!

That would be scary!

did i got your intention right? you are comparing Liara to Morinith?
if so:

[Tyrannosaurus Rex]

Marcin R wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Actually, Matriarch Liara is something I've yet to see in fanart. I wonder how she'd look, how she'd change as she ages?

Alterations to her figure aside, I'm imagine that she'd lose her freckles, and that her face would lose it's youthful roundness, and become more angular and defined. Can't think of anything else!

Matriach Liara hmm?

Or better yet!

Matriach Morinth!

That would be scary!

did i got your intention right? you are comparing Liara to Morinith?
if so:

No. I just said that i would love to see Liara when she is older (when her body have matured abit ).

Then I also said that it would be scary to meet Morinth when she gets old. She would proberly wind up being some cougar in the afterlife club seducing young people left and right and promises them snoo-snoo beyond their imagination!

Modifié par Lizardviking, 05 juin 2010 - 10:12 .

[Marcin K]

Lizardviking wrote...

Marcin R wrote...

Lizardviking wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

Actually, Matriarch Liara is something I've yet to see in fanart. I wonder how she'd look, how she'd change as she ages?

Alterations to her figure aside, I'm imagine that she'd lose her freckles, and that her face would lose it's youthful roundness, and become more angular and defined. Can't think of anything else!

Matriach Liara hmm?

Or better yet!

Matriach Morinth!

That would be scary!

did i got your intention right? you are comparing Liara to Morinith?
if so:

No. I just said that i would love to see Liara when she is older (when her body have matured abit ).

Then I also said that it would be scary to meet Morinth when she gets old. She would proberly wind up being some cougar in the afterlife club seducing young people left and right and promises them snoo-snoo beyond their imagination!

oh ok, lol thanks for explanation:)