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I'm confused what is "SQUEEEE" supposed to mean?


It doesn't mean anything.  It is just a sound one makes when they get overly excited about Liara.

.....I seeee.
I'm more of a Yaaaaaaaaay!!!! person myself.

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SQUEE!!!



I think Liara likes butts.

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That seems to be a fair assumption.

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Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Not so much hacked to pieces as given a new more (understandably) darker personality.

Well, I'm glad you were satisfied with her role in ME2. Most of us weren't.

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To be honest I felt a little betrayed by Liara.
But after my 2nd play through I understood.
Yeah She's a little to obsessive but it's very understandable considering the circumstances.

I'm curious did anyone else feel this way the first time they played ME2.
You know a little betrayed that grew into an understanding sympathy.

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SQUEE!!!

I think Liara likes butts.

I like Liara's butt!
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Not so much hacked to pieces as given a new more (understandably) darker personality.

Well, I'm glad you were satisfied with her role in ME2. Most of us weren't.

I didn't say I was satisfied.
I really missed innocent awkward Liara.
I'm saying I could understand the swing.

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Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

To be honest I felt a little betrayed by Liara.
But after my 2nd play through I understood.
Yeah She's a little to obsessive but it's very understandable considering the circumstances.

I'm curious did anyone else feel this way the first time they played ME2.
You know a little betrayed that grew into an understanding sympathy.


I didn't feel betrayed by Liara, just disappointed with her big ME2 cameo.

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jlb524 wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

To be honest I felt a little betrayed by Liara.
But after my 2nd play through I understood.
Yeah She's a little to obsessive but it's very understandable considering the circumstances.

I'm curious did anyone else feel this way the first time they played ME2.
You know a little betrayed that grew into an understanding sympathy.


I didn't feel betrayed by Liara, just disappointed with her big ME2 cameo.

They were not going to let her back onto the party.
None of the ME1 LI's did.
So they developed a reason for her to not join up.
Wrex had his Krogan rebuilding.
Ash/Kaidan had their Alliance stuff.

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Well this was how I felt in part of ME2



Yay I'm alive!

Hey it's Tali HI TALI!

Oh sh*t IT'S YOU GARRUS!!!!!

Liara Yaaaay it's going to be just like old........what do you mean you can't come with me.

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Darth Cheesecake wrote...

They were not going to let her back onto the party.
None of the ME1 LI's did.
So they developed a reason for her to not join up.
Wrex had his Krogan rebuilding.
Ash/Kaidan had their Alliance stuff.


I'm not saying I was upset because she was just a cameo.  I had known that before playing and had accepted it.  I was just hoping there was a bit more to her cameo and it stretched out over the entire game, kind of like Anderson's role in ME1, or TIM in ME2.  

All it consisted of were two hacking missions and her talking to you for a bit about the SB.  Plus, you didn't get a chance to properly say goodbye before going on the big 'suicide mission', and I at least expected something like this to occur.

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I didn't feel betrayed by Liara. At first I was shocked, and found it incredibly jarring. But when I discovered the easy to miss dialogue path, and saw Liara open her heart like that, it moved me quite deeply.



I can now understand her current character direction, and I don't actually mind it, I just wish it had been executed better.

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jlb524 wrote...

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They were not going to let her back onto the party.
None of the ME1 LI's did.
So they developed a reason for her to not join up.
Wrex had his Krogan rebuilding.
Ash/Kaidan had their Alliance stuff.


I'm not saying I was upset because she was just a cameo.  I had known that before playing and had accepted it.  I was just hoping there was a bit more to her cameo and it stretched out over the entire game, kind of like Anderson's role in ME1, or TIM in ME2.  

All it consisted of were two hacking missions and her talking to you for a bit about the SB.  Plus, you didn't get a chance to properly say goodbye before going on the big 'suicide mission', and I at least expected something like this to occur.

Well at least she's going to be in ME3.
She's pretty much the only character who can't die.
Pretty much means she's going to play a role.

I for one would be happy if I got her back on the team in ME3.

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Yeah, I don't think the fact that Liara received a cameo itself is what bothers alot of Liara fans, but it's the nature and execution of the cameo that upsets people. It should have been a little more substantial, a little more well executed.

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It sucked to be honest.

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I'm not upset with Liara at all. I'm upset at Shepard for sitting there like a bump on a log throughout her entire cameo. If I had just been given the opportunity to re-affirm Shepard's feelings for Liara, my outlook on the entire game would've changed dramatically.

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Darth Cheesecake wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

To be honest I felt a little betrayed by Liara.
But after my 2nd play through I understood.
Yeah She's a little to obsessive but it's very understandable considering the circumstances.

I'm curious did anyone else feel this way the first time they played ME2.
You know a little betrayed that grew into an understanding sympathy.


I didn't feel betrayed by Liara, just disappointed with her big ME2 cameo.

They were not going to let her back onto the party.
None of the ME1 LI's did.
So they developed a reason for her to not join up.
Wrex had his Krogan rebuilding.
Ash/Kaidan had their Alliance stuff.


I didn't feel betrayed by Liara at all but I was disappointed with how the writing staff presented the whole situation. Same for the Ashley/ Kaiden thing. It was like the witers had some 'deer in the headlights' syndrome and just dropped the ball at the last minute. I think everyone who romanced Liara in ME1 had a WTF moment on Illium.

Regarding the slow moving thread comment, check the stats. The Liara thread ranks 4th in responses. Not too shabby considering Liara was a minor character in ME2 and poorly written as well

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Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

To be honest I felt a little betrayed by Liara.
But after my 2nd play through I understood.
Yeah She's a little to obsessive but it's very understandable considering the circumstances.

I'm curious did anyone else feel this way the first time they played ME2.
You know a little betrayed that grew into an understanding sympathy.


No, I don't feel betrayed by a fictional character.

I feel betrayed by the writers and whoever thought this was the direction to go.

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I'm not upset with Liara at all. I'm upset at Shepard for sitting there like a bump on a log throughout her entire cameo. If I had just been given the opportunity to re-affirm Shepard's feelings for Liara, my outlook on the entire game would've changed dramatically.


That's what it has now come down to, really. The vast majority of Liara fans are now more upset and exasperated at Shepard and not Liara.

I happen to think that Liara does eventually show enough love and intimacy eventually. Shepard on the other hand? pfffffft!

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

I'm not upset with Liara at all. I'm upset at Shepard for sitting there like a bump on a log throughout her entire cameo. If I had just been given the opportunity to re-affirm Shepard's feelings for Liara, my outlook on the entire game would've changed dramatically.


That's what it has now come down to, really. The vast majority of Liara fans are now more upset and exasperated at Shepard and not Liara.

I happen to think that Liara does eventually show enough love and intimacy eventually. Shepard on the other hand? pfffffft!

To be fair Shepard does seem like a robot in some areas.
And I see all of your points.

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

I'm not upset with Liara at all. I'm upset at Shepard for sitting there like a bump on a log throughout her entire cameo. If I had just been given the opportunity to re-affirm Shepard's feelings for Liara, my outlook on the entire game would've changed dramatically.


That's what it has now come down to, really. The vast majority of Liara fans are now more upset and exasperated at Shepard and not Liara.

I happen to think that Liara does eventually show enough love and intimacy eventually. Shepard on the other hand? pfffffft!


Sheard ate the plantlife during Jacob's loyality mission

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LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

ratzerman wrote...

I'm not upset with Liara at all. I'm upset at Shepard for sitting there like a bump on a log throughout her entire cameo. If I had just been given the opportunity to re-affirm Shepard's feelings for Liara, my outlook on the entire game would've changed dramatically.


That's what it has now come down to, really. The vast majority of Liara fans are now more upset and exasperated at Shepard and not Liara.

I happen to think that Liara does eventually show enough love and intimacy eventually. Shepard on the other hand? pfffffft!


Sheard ate the plantlife during Jacob's loyality mission

That wouldn't work for mine.
I did Illium before Aeia.
So what was the reason for my Shepard's lack of emotion?

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That wouldn't work for mine.
I did Illium before Aeia.
So what was the reason for my Shepard's lack of emotion?


Shepard had a sudden attack of HERP DE DERP.

Especially when Liara opens her heart about her suffering and torment.

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That wouldn't work for mine.
I did Illium before Aeia.
So what was the reason for my Shepard's lack of emotion?


Shepard had a sudden attack of HERP DE DERP.

Especially when Liara opens her heart about her suffering and torment.

HERP DE DERP?
I had no idea it was that serious!

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Miranda chip, brain dammage, poor writing. Your choice