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[TMA LIVE]

Nerevar-as wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

What I like is how the picture scene parallels with the pre-Ilos scene. In ME1, when Liara walks into Shepard's cabin and requests to speak with her, Shepard says that she was just thinking about Liara. Fast forward to the pre-Omega 4 relay scene, and again Shepard is thinking about Liara. This time, however, she's not going to walk through the door. They're not going to be able to comfort and support each othe with their love. They're isolated.

Sad, and very poignant.

I like to think Shepard is saying to himself "I´m not going to die on you again",

It's a great scene. My only problem with it is when Male Shep cracks his knuckles while staring at the picture, which made me think he wants to beat her up once he finished the suicide mission. lol

[Nerevar-as]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

What I like is how the picture scene parallels with the pre-Ilos scene. In ME1, when Liara walks into Shepard's cabin and requests to speak with her, Shepard says that she was just thinking about Liara. Fast forward to the pre-Omega 4 relay scene, and again Shepard is thinking about Liara. This time, however, she's not going to walk through the door. They're not going to be able to comfort and support each othe with their love. They're isolated.

Sad, and very poignant.

I like to think Shepard is saying to himself "I´m not going to die on you again",

It's a great scene. My only problem with it is when Male Shep cracks his knuckles while staring at the picture, which made me think he wants to beat her up once he finished the suicide mission. lol

I see as a sign of determination (I hope this is the right word), not of violence. Still haven´t got with a femshep to that point, I´m waiting for pre-Suicide Mission DLC to end before finishing the game again.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

Nerevar-as wrote...

LesEnfantsTerribles wrote...

What I like is how the picture scene parallels with the pre-Ilos scene. In ME1, when Liara walks into Shepard's cabin and requests to speak with her, Shepard says that she was just thinking about Liara. Fast forward to the pre-Omega 4 relay scene, and again Shepard is thinking about Liara. This time, however, she's not going to walk through the door. They're not going to be able to comfort and support each othe with their love. They're isolated.

Sad, and very poignant.

I like to think Shepard is saying to himself "I´m not going to die on you again",

It's a great scene. My only problem with it is when Male Shep cracks his knuckles while staring at the picture, which made me think he wants to beat her up once he finished the suicide mission. lol

I see as a sign of determination (I hope this is the right word), not of violence. Still haven´t got with a femshep to that point, I´m waiting for pre-Suicide Mission DLC to end before finishing the game again.

The fem version is better. Instead of the knuckles, she forces herself away, and leaves for the mission.

[Nerevar-as]

Odd they made them different. With Hale´s tone of voice (too cold for my taste)I could see her doing the knuckle thing.

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Nerevar-as wrote...

Odd they made them different. With Hale´s tone of voice (too cold for my taste)I could see her doing the knuckle thing.

I find both Meer and Hale have their own ups and downs. Hale puts more emotion into her performance, but sometimes I don't gell with her because it's not the emotional way I wanted my Shepard to respond. While Meer sometimes sounds less emotional, yet his performance seems to match the way I wanted my Shepard to respond, because his performance can be interpreted differently.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 07 juin 2010 - 10:59 .

[WilliamShatner]

Shepard does a lot of finger cracking in ME2, especially in those interupt scenes. I dislike that. It makes Shepard look like a bloodthristy psycho who I have to hold back, which is certainly NOT what I want my Shepard to be.

[Andaius20]

Eh, he/she only does that to intimidate others. Most of the time you don't have to do it. if your going paragon.

[jtav]

I just finished a pure Paragon runthrough of ME. I also romanced Liara for the first time in several years. Some impressions.

• Liara's romance was a mixed bag. On the one hand, the constant fainting continues to be annoying. Some of the dialogue is painful. All that talk of being swept up in storms is downright painful. It also suffers from being too short, just like every romance in this series.
• On the other hand, the love scene is fantastic. I'd forgotten just how emotionally strong ME Liara could be. She's not looking for comfort and is clear-eyed enough to know the war might already be lost. She wants to spend what may be her last few hours with the man she loves. What she doesn't want is to be told everything will be okay when it may not be.
• My heart actually broke for her on Ilos. She keeps talking about wanting to come back and is thoroughly in her element despite the dire situation and full of compassion for the Protheans. And yet, she's doomed to be devoured by her rage. I'm not even sure she would care that the Collectors are Protheans, she's so determined to get her vengence.
• Benezia's dialogue actually flows better if Liara is not present. Odd.

I'm still planning to "cheat" with Tali but it will be with considerable regret.

[jlb524]

jtav wrote...

[*]On the other hand, the love scene is fantastic. I'd forgotten just how emotionally strong ME Liara could be. She's not looking for comfort and is clear-eyed enough to know the war might already be lost. She wants to spend what may be her last few hours with the man she loves. What she doesn't want is to be told everything will be okay when it may not be.

Yes, this is what attracts me to her the most.

[*]My heart actually broke for her on Ilos. She keeps talking about wanting to come back and is thoroughly in her element despite the dire situation and full of compassion for the Protheans. And yet, she's doomed to be devoured by her rage. I'm not even sure she would care that the Collectors are Protheans, she's so determined to get her vengence.

Yes, that's a tough scene to replay as a Liara fan, knowing what will soon happen to her in ME2.

[jlb524]

I think Liara is one of the most emotionally strong and mature LIs, though most call her weak and immature for some reason.
It seems to me she dictates the relationship to a great extent, being the one controlling its pacing. This tells me she isn't desperately making a move on Shepard just to lose her virginity or something, and fawning over her.
She is attracted to Shepard at a very early stage in their relationship, yes, but if Shepard wants to go through with the relationship, Liara wants them both to do it right, and not just 'do it' (horrible pun intended).

Modifié par jlb524, 07 juin 2010 - 11:56 .

[jtav]

No, Liara is not weak. She's actually one of the stronger characters in the trilogy. Stronger emotionally than Miranda actually. Miranda wants you to lie to her ("Promise me you won't die."). Liara categorically rejects that. Violence is not strength. Compassion is not weakness.



I think what happened in ME2 is that all the crap she's been through since Therum finally took its toll on her and she just can't hold onto her optimism when the galaxy seems determined to remind her that people are bastards at every turn.